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Replacing Ukraine's popular army chief is big gamble for Zelenskyy

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without loss of prestige

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Zaluzhnyi's image has been spray-painted on walls around the country to mark Ukrainian battlefield victories, and after Thursday's announcement that he was out of the top military post, messages of support for him flooded social media.

Seems this guy is really smart and capable.

And this could be his greatest personal achievement yet getting himself removed at this critical juncture

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Syrskyi is a classic "yes man" for Zelensky.

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Judging by the photo Ukrainians think the heart is on the left - a common misunderstanding

Eh?

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HopeSpringsEternalFeb. 11 06:06 pm JST

Hatred of Russia by some does nothing to change the reality, The Donbas has no strategic value or importance.

World increasingly realizes, whether the Donbas was Ukrainian or is now Russian, has no strategic relevance. Fact that they're now Russian citizens matters not.

Then Russia wouldn't be there and you wouldn't be telling us about BRICS ascendant ever day, would it?

Furthermore, getting the Donbas back in Ukrainian hands is impossible as 10years of civil war's made it clear nobody living there's ever willing to go back to Ukraine.

Then it is important that not one more inch be given to the fascist if it is going to end up in the Russian federation.

Translation? Current war has no endgame or benefit, just more massive direct & indirect costs to Ukraine & World.

Translation? Ukraine's existence and US credibility is on the line.

If some in Europe want to fund this fight over the Donbas, that's their prerogative, but it's clear the political reality is making this more difficult, both Inside Ukraine and Within Europe. US NATO proxy war's collapsing from within, both inside Ukraine with their troop mobilization failure and with their many foreign supporters, as Russia continues to strengthen its position.

Still Putin's War

Nobody in Ukraine thinks fighting for fighting sake with no hope of winning makes sense, even if western politicians prefer that they continue to throw their lives away.

You don't know what Ukrainians want. You want them enslaved to Moscow!!!

If anyone think US Congress is going to cut another blank check to Ukraine, you're probably not reading the tea leaves very well!

Depends, there are as yet some patriots in the Republican party that haven't fully jumped on the MAGA surrender bandwagon.

War often becomes dangerous addiction, and such is the case in Ukraine today with their present leadership.

Staying alive is not being addicted.

There's just no case for Ukraine to continue to pursue a total failed state and put entire world in greater risk in the process, ALL over the Donbass territory.

Ukraine's not a failed state yet despite your hopes and dreams.

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If anyone think US Congress is going to cut another blank check to Ukraine, you're probably not reading the tea leaves very well!

War often becomes dangerous addiction, and such is the case in Ukraine today with their present leadership.

There's just no case for Ukraine to continue to pursue a total failed state and put entire world in greater risk in the process, ALL over the Donbass territory.

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If some in Europe want to fund this fight over the Donbas, that's their prerogative, but it's clear the political reality is making this more difficult, both Inside Ukraine and Within Europe.

US NATO proxy war's collapsing from within, both inside Ukraine with their troop mobilization failure and with their many foreign supporters, as Russia continues to strengthen its position.

Nobody in Ukraine thinks fighting for fighting sake with no hope of winning makes sense, even if western politicians prefer that they continue to throw their lives away.

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Hatred of Russia by some does nothing to change the reality, The Donbas has no strategic value or importance.

World increasingly realizes, whether the Donbas was Ukrainian or is now Russian, has no strategic relevance. Fact that they're now Russian citizens matters not.

Furthermore, getting the Donbas back in Ukrainian hands is impossible as 10years of civil war's made it clear nobody living there's ever willing to go back to Ukraine.

Translation? Current war has no endgame or benefit, just more massive direct & indirect costs to Ukraine & World.

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HopeSpringsEternalToday 04:43 pm JST

None of above if assumed true

Nothing to assume about it: all of the above are absolutely devastating to Russia. Meanwhile the US doesn't even notice that Russia can no longer trade with it.

There is no conventional risk to NATO or Russia, because 'real' war will be non-conventional, making this whole matter of NATO expansion irrelevant. This is why Ukraine funding is drying up.

That's why it is also important that Sweden and Finland are wealthy and educated countries, unlike war torn Crimea and Donbas.

Important to understand, Ukraine tension with Russia, fueled by west since fall of USSR, resulted in Ukraine's population being roughly half today what it was in 1990.

People have been fleeing Ukraine for decades due to this tension. That's core political issue in this region, resolving this tension thru neutrality, rather than US led NATO expansion and globalist's greed agenda.

No, it is about about 4/5 what it was in 1990.

Believe this General Z. will thus seek sustainable durable lasting peace with Russia, as post USSR has been a total nightmare for Ukraine, so much so half its population has already left for greener pastures.

Your new hero, Zaluzhnyi, isn't in a position to surrender and he won't be in a position to surrender. And Ukraine was turning a corner before Putin's illegal and immoral war.

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Important to understand, Ukraine tension with Russia, fueled by west since fall of USSR, resulted in Ukraine's population being roughly half today what it was in 1990.

People have been fleeing Ukraine for decades due to this tension. That's core political issue in this region, resolving this tension thru neutrality, rather than US led NATO expansion and globalist's greed agenda.

Believe this General Z. will thus seek sustainable durable lasting peace with Russia, as post USSR has been a total nightmare for Ukraine, so much so half its population has already left for greener pastures.

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Don't forget Baltic Sea becoming a NATO lake, Russia indebted to China indefinitely, a generation of Russians lost, generations of Ukrainians raised to hate Russia, and Russia's military being exposed as a paper tiger.

None of above if assumed true, BIG stretch of imagination, relates to Ukraine's direct interests. Russia official population of citizens, millions more than pre-Crimea, most analysts put number at b/w 8-10M.

Above objectives even if accomplished do not directly benefit Ukraine. Ukraine pays ultimate price, death and destruction, for no clear benefit, hardly compelling.

There is no conventional risk to NATO or Russia, because 'real' war will be non-conventional, making this whole matter of NATO expansion irrelevant. This is why Ukraine funding is drying up.

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HopeSpringsEternalToday 03:56 pm JST

8) Russia becoming stronger politically & economically

10) Rusia becoming stronger geopolitically

Don't forget the Baltic Sea becoming a NATO lake, Russia indebted to China indefinitely, a generation of Russians lost, generations of Ukrainians raised to hate Russia, and Russia's military being exposed as a paper tiger.

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HopeSpringsEternalToday 03:30 pm JST

Ukraine internal political pressure will grow, General Z will likely play the PIVOTAL Role in pressing for peace negotiations. As most citizens in Ukraine realize their 10year Civil War's effectively over now and do not want:

1) Former Russian Speaking Ukrainians that are now legal Russia citizens to become Ukrainian ever again

2) Continue fighting Russia with no clear objective, other than more death and destruction

3) Pres. Zelensky involved in peace talks with Russia

You need to try some surrender negotiations of your own country first.

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mikeylikesitToday 12:16 pm JST

Zelensky is fearful that Zaluzhnyi’s popularity will result in Zelensky’s ouster. This is from the same president who suspended elections in order to preserve democracy.

This but unironically. There is no money or safety to hold an election and it isn't wanted by the people right now.

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It was always going to be this way, Ukraine's foreign support would dry up, because it's all conditioned upon success AND collateral damage. Clearly no success on the battlefield. Collateral damage's growing:

1) Domestic Ukraine support for war & leadership falling

2) Foreign support for war falling

3) Foreign leadership political support falling

4) Mid-East and Far-East geopolitical risks rising

5) Critical shortages of missiles growing in west

6) Critical shortages of other munitions growing in west

8) Russia becoming stronger politically & economically

9) Russia military advantage vs. Ukraine growing

10) Rusia becoming stronger geopolitically

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Ukraine internal political pressure will grow, General Z will likely play the PIVOTAL Role in pressing for peace negotiations. As most citizens in Ukraine realize their 10year Civil War's effectively over now and do not want:

1) Former Russian Speaking Ukrainians that are now legal Russia citizens to become Ukrainian ever again

2) Continue fighting Russia with no clear objective, other than more death and destruction

3) Pres. Zelensky involved in peace talks with Russia

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Yugoslavia that

that Yugoslavia

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Ukraine's being depopulated & destroyed daily, nothing being rebuilt, only economic collapse & military failure, as people flee abroad for safety. It's also clear Ukraine's foreign support waning fast, Trump's not joking etc

Can I ask what your sources are?

It’s just after you posted Yugoslavia that broke up into 3 distinct countries I became a bit concerned that you aren’t reading or watching accurate material.

Thanks in advance.

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Clear Ukraine's many internal issues, stem from failures on the battlefield. Otherwise, Zelensky or any leader with military success would never face all this domestic strife that's spilling over to their international supporters.

Laughable, 2024 strategy of 're-build' for UA?

Ukraine's being depopulated & destroyed daily, nothing being rebuilt, only economic collapse & military failure, as people flee abroad for safety. It's also clear Ukraine's foreign support waning fast, Trump's not joking etc.

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Zelensky knew General Zaluzhnyi viewed war as an unwinnable war of attrition, stalemate at best, leading to a failed Ukraine state.

General Z. thus opposed further troop mobilization and likely influenced Ukraine's Parliament to not authorize.

Zelensky wants new head General, who's not nearly so popular with soldiers or in general, to help revitalize troop mobilization efforts within Parliament. Zelensky is trying to keep hands clean, outsource mobilization issue.

Let's see how it plays out, clearly Ukraine's running out of military capacity, domestic and foreign support. Dark days indeed, why NATO has amassed about 100K troops on their western border for 'training'.

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Zelensky is fearful that Zaluzhnyi’s popularity will result in Zelensky’s ouster. This is from the same president who suspended elections in order to preserve democracy. Zaluzhnyi has exercised caution, not wasting lives in strategically useless heroic stands. Syrskyi is a Russian-speaking general who doesn’t bat at eye at sending other men to their deaths.

This change will not work out well for Zelensky.

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I watched an hour long interview with a high ranking member of the Ukrainian foreign legion yesterday. I highly recommend it to anyone who really wants to understand the Zelenskyy v Zaluzhnyi battle, Ukrainian corruption and future operations. Not much good news for the pro Ukraine crowd and this guy is as pro Ukraine as they come. Changing the captain on the Titanic as was going down would not have made a difference. Syrskyi is not going to change the outcome apart from casualty rates already at 3000 per month.

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That, or make it logistically impossible for the Russians to be in the occupied territory by taking out all transportation, fuel infrastructure, etc.

quote: struggling to overhaul how it mobilizes civilians into the army.

They don't want to be cannon fodder in a trench fighting over an acre of mud, WWI style? Understandable. Target Putin's regime directly instead and end this quickly with minimal death and destruction. Target the leaders. It is the only ethical way to fight a war.

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quote: struggling to overhaul how it mobilizes civilians into the army.

They don't want to be cannon fodder in a trench fighting over an acre of mud, WWI style? Understandable. Target Putin's regime directly instead and end this quickly with minimal death and destruction. Target the leaders. It is the only ethical way to fight a war.

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It's a war. Big risks have to be taken now that the US has surrendered.

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