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Trump's already harsh rhetoric on migrants is turning darker as Election Day nears
By James Oliphant WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Some dude
I already told you, most sites would never show any violence of that level like that, certainly none of the mainstream ones, and with a valid reason, not for the weak, that's for sure, but if you dig you can find anything.
So get digging. You made the claim.
wallace
Trump told the crowd. “They grab young girls and slice them up right in front of their parents.”
Freedom of speech, I suppose.
wallace
Trump's mental health needs to be questioned and answered before the election,
Earlier this month, speaking to the far-right Mothers for Liberty group, he alleged that kids were going to school and coming back with gender-affirming surgery. It was all completely made up. Nothing remotely like that has ever happened.
https://presswatchers.org/2024/09/trumps-mental-capacity-is-now-topic-one/
Some dude
Never happened.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/02/trump-call-violence-presidency
I await your denigration of the source, outright denial of the contents, creative interpretation of the words used, and so on.
lincolnman
Well, after the outrageous "Pet eating" lie, it really can't get much darker....unless he admits to wanting martial law declared and all immigrants carted off to the ovens - a solution his dinner partner and Neo Nazi Nick Fuentes heartedly endorses...
Notice how all the vile racist hate and rhetoric is directed against immigrants of color? Don't see him saying Melania should be deported...or maybe now that he is BFFs with Laura Loomer, he'll say that tomorrow...
wallace
Trump's wild and ugly comments will only cause more hatred and more fear in the people. He should be ashamed of himself.
Some dude
This is surely tactical, though? Trump knows the kind of people who are going to vote for him. He knows that they thrive on rage and hate, and are generally extremely uninformed and thus easy to lie to. He also must be aware that his rhetorical style isn't going to convince any moderate or potentially undecided voters, so he's going all in on his target voters and hoping that that will be enough.
He's nothing if not consistent on that front. Now it just remains to be seen whether he's taken the country's temperature accurately.
Some dude
I don't know, sorry.
Yes you do, you just don't want to admit that you have no evidence whatsoever of the claims you made about cartel members.
I'm not saying that they don't do what you claim. It's a nasty business in the extreme.
But, to quote a couple of great thinkers, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence (or, alternatively, "what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence". I'd add "proper" to that, i.e. proper evidence. Random accounts on X are not proper evidence.
Norm
On record? Great! Where can we find them?
Some dude
That is exactly what some cartel members do, that's a fact.
Let's see the video evidence then. As you're always harping on about "you weren't there so you can't say that, you can't accuse people without evidence".
No hiding behind some crackpot on Twitler.
Back up your claims with evidence.
John
No doubt the product of award winning investigative journalism from an unsung citizen journalist.
Some dude
How? Not unless you go to certain sites.
As you seem so certain that this is happening, you'll know the sites. So provide the links.
I suggest you get a Telegram account and then you can see for yourself.
Why bother, when you can provide evidence from yours?
Not sure what you are talking about.
You know exactly what I'm talking about: quoting people like Dinesh D'Souza and Elon Musk.
John
What a pathetically weak deflection. Can the white flag of surrender in the form of “ditto” be far behind?
Norm
The terrorist’s? Only one guy? What’s his name?
wallace
Trump told the crowd. “They grab young girls and slice them up right in front of their parents.”
Freedom of speech, I suppose.
That is exactly what some cartel members do, that's a fact.
OMG, you believe Trump. He didn't say cartel members.
prove it then.
John
His rhetoric about “poisoning the blood” and “bad genes” is straight out of eugenics and 1930’s era Nazi propaganda.
starpunk
Yeah, yeah? What about those allegations of what he and Epstein did to that 13-year-old? trump is convicted of rape (and defamation) himself and he just can't shut up. Melania herself came here as an illegal immigrant from ex-Yugoslavia (oh wait! That's a land of European white people, coff coff).
We already know what he did to those kidnapped Hispanic children, physically and mentally they are scarred for life. It's all based on an Orwellian lie about an 'invasion' that is not real. It's an absolute insult to EVERY military veteran who ever defended this nation from the Cold War to now, including myself.
Last week Germany celebrated Reunification Day and all this kind of hate talk as well as the bogus Holocaust Denial notion can get you jailed for inciting hatred and inciting the violence that always results from it. It looks like the German people have learned from all that ugly history. America needs to as well.
And Step One is to punish the terrorist criminal rapist/fascist/traitor/antichrist/etc. trump the chump.
Wasabi
This person is sick, it is incredible that some do want to understand this. trump place is in jail or an hospital for the mentally ill.
starpunk
He has openly advocated and promoted violence since day 1. It's all karma.
And as the election day gets closer he sinks deeper and deeper into his pit of hatred, ego, lies, desperation, violence. In some sort of way he is destroying himself. He is totally unhinged and just plain EVIL.
Norm
As usual, you just don’t get it.
Kind of “somber/sober” moment. Could also be a “I just learned what ‘I stand corrected’ means’ situation.
wallace
Both of Trump's assassins were Americans.
dagon
Like with his rhetoric that relief efforts for the hurricane were being hampered by Harris housing illegals, Trump will pivot every issue to demonizing immigrants.
It is almost like he took a page from a certain Austrian corporal...
wallace
Where is Trump's mental health certificate?
dagon
The biggest deterrent would be to prosecute the big businesses, like Trump org, that use illegal immigrant labor freely with few if no penalties. Remove the incentives
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-two-undocumented-housekeepers-took-on-the-president--and-revealed-trumps-long-term-reliance-on-illegal-immigrants/2019/12/04/3dff5b5c-0a15-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html
But oh no for the GOP immigrant demonizers oh we won't do that.
itsonlyrocknroll
Correction decriminalise....
bass4funk
Yeah, has nothing to do with journalism, it has everything to do with research, the thing that anyone can do, even Journalists.
itsonlyrocknroll
US has a for decade has a perfectly legitimate migration asylum process.
The question here is Illegal undocumented migration.
The people smuggling, men women children.
To then be ruthlessly exploited within the sex slave/drug mules smuggling, to pay off a cruel brutal falsehood of a land of milk and honey fallacy.
There has to be deterrents.
Kamala Harris insists on numerous occasions an intention to decimalize.
Opening the door for unfettered smuggling gangs to continue without any course to law enforcement.
The same democrat fake "close the border" policies are peddled close to US election, only to be callously dropped when in office ,
bass4funk
Nothing pathetic and no surrender, what on earth for???
In the Middle East, give you a hint, the Israelis are fighting them right now.
bass4funk
I did, but as usual, you are not focusing, I will try again, there are some sites out there, I won't name them where you can see these kinds of violent acts, they are out there, but you need to search for them and Telegram is one platform where you can find anything. so yes, there is your proof.
bass4funk
He has multiple on record.
bass4funk
Nothing, if there were something even remotely close to some vile indiscretion we would have known about it, because one thing the left will never do is let any crisis go to waste.
Alledged, none of us were there, so we can give one side the benefit of the doubt and not the other? In a democracy that is normally what you do until you have physical evidence to back your allegations.
She is legal, and a Naturalized citizen, and what is wrong with being White?
Obama did the same thing, that is where he got the idea from, the difference is, that Obama and his admin were not open and direct about it, which is why people didn't know until later, that Trump was open and upfront about it. By the way, don't you think that it is more disheartening and horrifying that any parent would allow their kid to trek for hundreds of miles through the desert, swamp, and the notorious Darien Gap without, as a parent, I would never, ever allow my kids to leave my sight, regardless of the reason knowing what awaits them from bandits, rapists, cartels, I will never understand that.
10 million illegals and counting is not real?
https://x.com/Heritage/status/1837857983658655747
It's an insult to every American person who is legal and who expects their government to keep them safe as well as keep their nation sovereign.
That is not necessarily true. You do have the absolute to your personal opinion as long as you do not violently and physically harm someone.
They have and they have also learned a lot from Poland especially recently
Trump is far from being a terrorist, he's the terrorist's worst nightmare.
bass4funk
That is exactly what some cartel members do, that's a fact.
bass4funk
How? Not unless you go to certain sites.
I suggest you get a Telegram account and then you can see for yourself.
Not sure what you are talking about.
Yes, I just told you.
Zaphod
Whatever Trumps "harsh rethoric" is, it pales in comparison to the virulent rethoric against him that has been propagated during the last 8 years and has resulted in already 2 assassination attempts by fanatical invididuals.
bass4funk
Has nothing to do with believing Trump or not, and he didn't have to say the cartels, most people already know
I just explained that.
bass4funk
I don't know, sorry.
bass4funk
No, I don't.
I already told you, most sites would never show any violence of that level like that, certainly none of the mainstream ones, and with a valid reason, not for the weak, that's for sure, but if you dig you can find anything.
That's right.
bass4funk
Never happened.
Honestly, if Trump wins, seems more like it, I wonder how the left will react!!! The summer of 2020 and those 3 months scared the hell out of me, how could these thugs destroy the country like that and none of these people were brought to justice!
bass4funk
Allegedly.
That will never happen, but if you are illegal then you have no right to be in any country, you want to come in, apply for asylum at the port of entry, and do it like everyone else, my grandparents did, and they can as well. No excuses!
Most of the illegals that are in the country are people of color, so that would make sense by the way, the libs don't want them in their neighborhoods as well, so I think it's rich hearing the left calling the right racist when their very radical liberal policies have been nothing but racist and unfair towards the people of color.
She came legally, that is the keyword "legally" As long as you have that status, come in.
Proof? I will say this, the left will harp all day on this issue about the right, soon as the right challenges them, they run and hide like the cowards they are. I will say this again, where are the Democrats on this? Why won't any of them take these people into their neighborhoods? They tried that at Martha's Vineyard and the left went nuts, but on the other hand, they want to rest of us to take these people in. Why? Why are liberals afraid the debate the issue? Instead, they want to throw insults and baseless and empty platitudes, that is all they have.
Zaphod
starpunk
No he has not. He has not called the opposing politicians a "threat to democray" that "must be stopped" and so on. And notice that the media are almost 100% against Trump, so whatever he says does not get amplified like the polemic against him does. And what do you expect if people are almost non-stop told that we have a second Stalin here that must be stopped at all costs.... do you not think some individuals act on that?
Just count the number of assassination attempts on Trump vs Biden.