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I think that what is particularly galling about the anti-vaxxer movement in general, and those who intentionally spread lies about vaccinations in particular, is that they cause needless suffering and death among those who are too young to overrule their guardians' decisions.

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There's a withered branch in the evolutionary tree waiting ahead for the anti-vaxxers, while the rest of humanity forges on, protected against diseases past and present by all the benefits and immunities that vaccines have given us. Of course that list may never include a vaccine against Covid-19, but if it does I'll be waiting in line for my shot, thank you.

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No Big Pharma chemical injections for me thank you.

What size of Pharma is okay? Does Small Pharma exist, and are they cool? Don't they also inject poisons and mind-controlling chips? What exact companies class as Big Pharma? Do they all have the same poisons & chips, or different flavours?

I do not trust anyone with the sanctity of my body.

So that would be Big Pharma & Big Farmers out too. And Big Water. Big Air too. I wouldn't trust those seatbelts mate by Big Motor either.

Kinda didn't have that option when I was 6 months old and was permanently scared on my left shoulder against my will.

Is this a typo or are you really 'permanently scared'? What vaccine were you given as a kid? Did it work?

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Anti-vaxxers, present bogus arguments based on discredited information. The arguments present false information and reflect an ignorance of science and inability to process basic information about viruses. The half-wit scion of the Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an environmental lawyer turned prolific peddler of dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation and his organizations promote conspiracy theories about vaccine safety, including the roundly debunked claim that safe, life-saving immunizations are linked to autism. More recently, Kennedy has become a prominent opponent of laws aimed at increasing vaccination rates among school children. Kennedy is not a scientist and various arguments he advances are fraudulent, that's a polite way of saying: outright lies.

Kennedy made his name in the anti-vaccine movement in 2005, when he published a story alleging a massive conspiracy regarding thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that had been removed from all childhood vaccines except for some variations of the flu vaccine in 2001. In his piece, Kennedy completely ignored an Institute of Medicine immunization safety review on thimerosal published the previous year; he’s also ignored the nine studies funded or conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that have taken place since 200

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This article, though, tries to smear everyone who has concerns about any forthcoming corona vaccine as "anti-vaxxers" when they're are loads of people just skeptical about the motivations of people who are pushing the vaccination and new normal lines really hard.

No, the article does not do such a thing, It gives a good description of the illogical, irrational beliefs that antivaxxers hold even against perfectly good scientific data that contradict those beliefs.

One thing is to say that you are concerned because the vaccine production schedule may be rushed and safety not properly evaluated (a perfectly normal concern, even if not necessarily important if you see how the vaccines are planned to be tested)

Another completely different is to say that they are going to force you to get vaccinated (not happening) and that it will end up in thousands of people affected like the last vaccines produced (did not happen).

If your argument is based on unproved conspiracies and illogical conditions (doctors sacrifice their own children to make everybody vaccinate) you would be completely on the side of the antivaxxers. If objective scientific data is enough has been enough to dissipate at least some of your concerns then you are not, and the article do not refer to you.

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Burning Bush says;

"I do not trust anyone with the sanctity of my body.

No expert truly knows how the human body functions so it‘s impossible for them to be 100% sure that those chemicals won’t cause any long term side effects.

No chemical injections for me, thank you."

You should hope that you never become a diabetic because without daily injections of insulin your life will be greatly shortened.

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Read between the lines. This piece trying to link skeptics with hard-core anti-vaxxers through guilt by association.

You are trying to hard to discern supposedly hidden meanings, so hard that you are having trouble reading the plainly evident ones. It gives a concise definition, it does not even mention anything but the most clear examples of extremist beliefs and denial of science. Nothing in the article can be reasonably thought to be referring to anyone with a rational degree of concerns.

If you think believing obvious lies like in the plandemic documentary or the toxic properties of all vaccines is something that can apply to "skeptics" you could not be more wrong. Everything in the description is reserved for "deniers" of science.

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No expert truly knows how the human body functions so it‘s impossible for them to be 100% sure that those chemicals won’t cause any long term side effects.

That's true. But the other side of that coin is that it's also impossible to be 100% sure of the effect of not taking medicines. So what do we rely on to make the decision? I think we have to follow the available statistics, which show that vaccines are generally effective, and the risk of side effects is far smaller than the potential benefits.

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No chemical injections for me, thank you.

So, you've never had an injection or any form of vaccination in your whole life?

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1glennJune 30  10:42 am JST

I think that what is particularly galling about the anti-vaxxer movement in general, and those who intentionally spread lies about vaccinations in particular, is that they cause needless suffering and death among those who are too young to overrule their guardians' decisions.

And that is called child abuse and neglect. If you skip vaccinations for your kid you are an abuser and you risk spreading disease to others, which no one has to right to do!

It's a basic human right to be vaccinated from diseases, just like food.

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Anyone wishing to be injected with any vaccine should only ask the doctor administrating the drug to guarantee that any side effects be guarded against by signing a letter of indemnification.

So anybody that wish to remain unvaccinated should be made to sign a document where they accept full responsibility of any consequences of them acquiring and possibly spreading the disease?

I mean, both things are equally ridiculous and irrational.

The rational thing? to prefer the option with less risk according to objective scientific data, even if that risk is never zero. It is fortunate that most people are reasonable enough to get all available safe and effective health interventions.

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@Burning Bush: Yet you use computers and no expert truly knows how the computer effects the human body functions so it‘s impossible for them to be 100% sure that computers won’t cause any long term side effects.

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Anyone wishing to be injected with any vaccine should only ask the doctor administrating the drug to guarantee that any side effects be guarded against by signing a letter of indemnification.

They won’t ...

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Typical hit piece completely lacking in nuance. Completely ignores all the lawsuits, out-of-court settlements and fines big pharma have had to pay for unsafe vaccines.

it seems the establishment are getting frightened that a sizable proportion of the average folk aren’t buying the official line anymore. That means it might be hard to force vaccinations on everyone for whatever corona vaccines come out to make us “safe.” Safe from what? They’re getting resistance so are resorting to the usual ad-hom and straw man techniques to try and discredit skeptics by tarring them with the same brush as the fringe who sometimes But not always get their facts wrong.

The energy that governments and the mainstream media are expending to push the virus, new normal and vaccine narrative so hard indicates a political dimension to this crisis that is as important if not more so than the medical one.

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This article, though, tries to smear everyone who has concerns about any forthcoming corona vaccine as "anti-vaxxers" when they're are loads of people just skeptical about the motivations of people who are pushing the vaccination and new normal lines really hard.

No, the article does not do such a thing, It gives a good description of the illogical, irrational beliefs that antivaxxers hold even against perfectly good scientific data that contradict those beliefs.

Read between the lines. This piece trying to link skeptics with hard-core anti-vaxxers through guilt by association.

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I do not trust anyone with the sanctity of my body.

No expert truly knows how the human body functions so it‘s impossible for them to be 100% sure that those chemicals won’t cause any long term side effects.

No chemical injections for me, thank you.

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@1glenn, you do have a valid point. Some vaccines are safer than others, and there are lots of people who reject all vaccinations outright instead of taking them on a case-by-case basis. That can be harmful as you rightly said.

This article, though, tries to smear everyone who has concerns about any forthcoming corona vaccine as "anti-vaxxers" when they're are loads of people just skeptical about the motivations of people who are pushing the vaccination and new normal lines really hard.

It's purely dishonest propaganda dressed up as journalism.

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So, you've never had an injection or any form of vaccination in your whole life?

Not since I've been old enough and brave enough to stand up for myself and say NO!

Kinda didn't have that option when I was 6 months old and was permanently scared on my left shoulder against my will.

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

"Experts" also promised that the Swine Flu vaccine in the 70s was safe.

Countless permanently disabled people found out otherwise.

No Big Pharma chemical injections for me thank you.

-13 ( +4 / -17 )

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