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As pandemic ebbs, an old fear is new again: mass shootings

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By GILLIAN FLACCUS

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Well I suppose the ultimate US solution is when everyone has a gun and carries it at all times.

Should solve any over population worries!

Of course long before that any international tourist industry will be dead and Canada and Mexico both will have built a wall to keep anyone from the USA safely locked away.

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A database compiled by The Associated Press, USA Today and Northeastern University that tracks mass killings — defined as four or more dead, not including the shooter — showed just two public mass shootings in 2020. Since Jan. 1, there have been at least 11.

Of course definitions vary, but the key word there is 'public'. The Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as four or more SHOT or killed (and I'm not sure why you'd differentiate between killed or injured as the intent is surely the same in most if not all cases), not including the shooter, in a single incident, recorded 610 mass shootings -and (including?) 20 mass murders- in 2020.

In that sense, mass shootings never went away but, as the article states, they didn't occur in public as often as they did in homes and the like.

It puts quite a dent in the 'shooters target gun free zones' argument, as private residences in America are certainly not gun free zones, as guaranteed by the Second Amendment.

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In the developed world, this is mainly an American problem. Let's keep it that way.

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Dad got me my first rifle when I was 12, and then taught me to shoot. I am pretty good at it. Still, I have no desire to hurt other people, and would love to see common sense background checks and other laws put into place.

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America is a vast self-reinforcing culture of malignant lunacy.

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In the developed world, this is mainly an American problem. Let's keep it that way.

They don't have the 2nd amendment so for us having that is the opposite of a problem, the problem is that in many States some of the leaders are just NOT or refuse to enforce the laws that are already on the books. Add to that, you fully fund the police, give them every resource they need to enforce these laws, and get the unregistered and stolen guns off the streets, but as long as this war on police continues to be waged, guns sales will go through the roof and that is a problem the rest of the outside world doesn't understand and the liberals in this country don't get it either.

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No need to be afraid. Just be prepared. Tool up.

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The US should learn from Canada. You walk across the border and suddenly no mass shootings, healthcare for all, etc. It is a shame.

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The US should learn from Canada. You walk across the border and suddenly no mass shootings, healthcare for all, etc. It is a shame.

Except a lot of Canadians complain about their healthcare system…..a lot, plus they like the warmer weather.

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The US should learn from Canada. You walk across the border and suddenly no mass shootings

Not nearly as many. But not 'no'. Here are eight in a list of 12 mass killings. The rest are arsons, a van, and a bomb.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6840650/mass-killings-canada/

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But there’s no way I can make an educated decision about what to do to avoid a mass shooting.

Of course there is. Move to a country that doesn’t have insane gun laws and insane folk ready to defend those insane laws to the death. Literally.

Not nearly as many. But not 'no'. Here are eight in a list of 12 mass killings.

Over a period of fifty years. How many in the US during that time? By comparison eight is nothing.

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“I haven't been living in fear with COVID because I'm able to make educated decisions to keep myself safe,” says Smith, 21, who lives in St. Louis, Missouri. “But there’s no way I can make an educated decision about what to do to avoid a mass shooting. I've been at home for a year and I'm not as practiced at coping with that fear as I used to be.”

When an individual, before leaving home, has to way up the potential risk avoidance of a mass shooting, I believe it is time to at least consider reflectively how this crazy scenario has developed.

It is the why? Before the necessity to take action.

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Over a period of fifty years.

Three of those in the last four years. That's about one a year. This very article states;

A database compiled by The Associated Press, USA Today and Northeastern University that tracks mass killings — defined as four or more dead, not including the shooter — showed just two public mass shootings in 2020.

By comparison eight is nothing.

No, eight is eight. Try using that to defend your next test score.

"The answer is nothing."

"But Ma'am, eight IS nothing."

I stand by 'not nearly as many.'

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Of course, there is. Move to a country that doesn’t have insane gun laws and insane folk

Nice labeling everyone with a broad brush, no wonder we could care less what the rest of the world thinks, who says moving to another country that life will be better, every country has its own problem, guns, knives, bombs, violence is violence, you could move to a different state.

ready to defend those insane laws to the death. Literally.

If they're enforced, they're good.

Over a period of fifty years. How many in the US during that time? By comparison, eight is nothing.

Car crashes or people choking would be a higher amount. The real problem is lack of leadership and for some reason and this is the part that gets me is that Democrat leaders run their cities and States crappy and instead of enforcing the gun laws that are on the books, they blame the gun or the law-abiding citizen that has a gun. Why do I have to be punished and my rights are taken away because some politician is ignorant about guns. This President is freaking people out and because of his position on firearms and what the Dems want to do and that is to ultimately confiscate firearms, all of them if they can regardless of model or make, people aren't taking a chance, I hunt and I follow the rules and mind my own business, if people should be punished then it should be the weak leaders that are inept in their duties and responsibility to properly execute and enforce our gun laws.

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I did bot realize how crazy the U.S. has become.

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Jean, this is all by design.

Violence has skyrocketed in all Democrat-controlled cities, due to defunding of police and radical prosecutors who seek to create turmoil. Americans are leaving California and New York in droves.

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Americans are leaving California and New York in droves.

And this will end up turning Texas Blue since smarter states are typically Blue. By the way, Chicago gets all their illegal guns from Indiana which is a red state with loose gun laws. If all states turn blue that will mean gun violence will go down. Look at Japan.

This President is freaking people out

No, a Trump person should never say This President because they all believe that Biden stole the election. They should always say Trump should be in the WH but he was scammed out of the reelection by Hillary's deep state. Trump people should never every call Biden President. If they do that means they are not true Trump supporters.

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Nice labeling everyone with a broad brush

Not everyone, just the loonies who think the answer to rampant gun crime is more guns. About half the American population, maybe a bit more, seem to be quite reasonable people.

Why do I have to be punished and my rights are taken away 

Yet you choose to come to Japan, where you check your ‘gun rights’ at Immigration. How do you live with yourself, voluntarily giving up those hard-earned, godgibbon rights?

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 when you demonize the police and defund them

I’ve never demonized the police

And those people in states far from the grasp of liberal madness, these people create these laws, but always run away and locate to a different state where they are allowed to live alongside people that care about the 2nd amendment.

Sorry, did you think that through? Who are ‘those/these people’?

Because those are the rules and I follow them

There you are then, simply make ‘no guns’ the rule and you wipe out gun crime overnight.

godgibbon???what? I think you meant to say, “God given”

I know what I meant.

Any god who comes up with the idea of giving lethal weapons to every brainless moron who wants one is up to monkey business.

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 when you demonize the police and defund them

I’ve never demonized the police

And those people in states far from the grasp of liberal madness, these people create these laws, but always run away and locate to a different state where they are allowed to live alongside people that care about the 2nd amendment.

Sorry, did you think that through? Who are ‘those/these people’?

Because those are the rules and I follow them

There you are then, simply make ‘no guns’ the rule and you wipe out gun crime overnight.

godgibbon???what? I think you meant to say, “God given”

I know what I meant.

Any god who comes up with the idea of giving lethal weapons to every brainless moron who wants one is up to monkey business.

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 when you demonize the police and defund them

I’ve never demonized the police

And those people in states far from the grasp of liberal madness, these people create these laws, but always run away and locate to a different state where they are allowed to live alongside people that care about the 2nd amendment.

Sorry, did you think that through? Who are ‘those/these people’?

Because those are the rules and I follow them

There you are then, simply make ‘no guns’ the rule and you wipe out gun crime overnight.

godgibbon???what? I think you meant to say, “God given”

I know what I meant.

Any god who comes up with the idea of giving lethal weapons to every brainless moron who wants one is up to monkey business.

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demonize 107 million gun owners,

No one knows exactly how many gun owners there are because of the lack of registration. Less than 46% of households own a gun.

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As a resident of the Portland, Oregon area, I can testify that availability of guns is not the cause of our rising homicide rate.

For years now, we have had a mayor, city council, and a district attorney who have allowed rioting to go unchecked, anarchy in the streets is a nightly occurrence, and camps of meth addicts have taken over our parks and other green spaces. The police response has been stymied by progressive activists who are more concerned with protecting the rights of violent thugs than protecting the lives of hard working citizens.

If this sounds unbelievable, then I urge you to visit Portland and see for yourself the degradation of a once beautiful city.

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Nice labeling everyone with a broad brush,

You seem to think you’re the only one who should be able to generalize.

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As a resident of the Portland

Is this really true?

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If America itself doesn't care enough to actually deal with their problem, why should the rest of the world?

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