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In Trump era, Europeans want a very different foreign policy
By Peter Apps LONDON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Serrano
It is possible another term of Trump –
It's virtually guaranteed the way the Democrats are going and the way the U.S. economy is doing.
or even a more isolationist U.S. Democratic administration
First, Trump is not an isolationist, but he is pretty good at getting our allies to pay more of their fair share, and the U.S. continues to be the world's biggest foreign aid donor by far, and second, good grief, the Dems are total globalists.
Zaphod
Protection from who? That people even answered such a ridiculous poll is embarrassing. Germany is under threat from its own globalist fanatical politicians, and not from a foreign country. This attempt by the pollsters and media to revive the old Sovjet scare hoax is sad.
Darren
USA should pull out of NATO and UN and let EU determine own fate and culture. Beside3s there may not be enough $ for all this in future what has become a great corrupt sharing of money supplied by US taxpayers. Every nation should assess what they can do for themselves as the globalist agenda is failing due to self centered agenda. Receding births and growth of GNP Japan is first to see these effects and is the Canary in the economic coalmine. Has MMT worked ?
Zaphod
Darren
There should be no NATO in the first place, because the Warsaw Pact does not exist any more. Which was the reason for the creation of NATO, have we all forgotten that??
If Merkel and Macaron want to make their stupid Euro-armee, let them. But the US should have nothing to do with that. In a sane world that is.... guess that is too much to hope for.
Serrano
Yes, he is. He's running on the America First ticket
America First is not isolationist, it's just doing what every other country is doing - looking out for their own interests. So no, he's not.
Strangerland
Yeah, in an isolationist manner.
So yes, he is.
Serrano
Yeah, in an isolationist manner.
So yes, he is.
Just because you don't like his non-PC manner doesn't mean it's isolationist. The Trump administration is working with other countries to resolve problems.
So no, he's not.
Strangerland
I agree. Trump being an isolationist, and moving the country towards isolation, alienating and casting off allies, and aligning with enemies is what makes him isolationist. Not my opinion silly. You're getting it backwards, my opinion sways nothing. My opinion is based on the reality of what he is doing.
Wolfpack
I sincerely hope that the US disentangles itself from one sided foreign alliances. Germany is better off on its own. The US has a $23 trillion debt. Let Germany cut a deal with Putin - he owns Germany anyway do to their dependence on Russian energy.
Wolfpack
Yes - it’s insane. And if a Dem is elected it will be $40 trillion. But at these numbers it doesn’t really matter anymore does it? Debt is built-in every year. Both sides have given up on caring and only want to win power. Given that reality all there is left for voters is to quit the party’s and vote their own personal interests.
The last attempt to reform the structural debt was by Bush at the start of his second term and Dems refused to even discuss the problem because they know they would be decimated in the next election. Americans just want free stuff regardless of the consequences to the nations, and their own children’s, futures.
The Europeans notice that America is an exhausted world power and will have no choice but to withdraw from the world stage and attend to its own problems for awhile. The Europeans themselves aren’t in much better fiscal shape. Like Japan, the West has aging populations that have become dependent on the government for their livelihoods. It is no accident that globalism is under so much pressure under these circumstances. America first isn’t a betrayal of the current world order, it is survival.
Wolfpack
The US national debt did not practically double under Obama? Talk about fake news. MSNBC can convince people that up is down and dark is light. Unbelievable!