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Elon Musk has often inflamed politically tense moments, raising worries for the US election

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Trump gave a shoutout to Musk during an event on X Monday evening, basking in the tech billionaire's endorsement and referring to him as his “friend.” Musk did not reply to an emailed request for comment.

Musk's inspiration, Scottish Socialist Iain Banks would have given Musk a good thrashing for his recent actions.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/what-to-read/does-elon-musk-really-understand-books-claims-inspired/

Musk is powering his Grok LLM with a new mega compute cluster called Colossus and pumping out all those AI pics of Trump, Kamala and cats and dogs you see recently.

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“X and Musk are raising the temperature of politics dangerously and irresponsibly at a critical moment,”

maga apparently don’t like dangerous rhetoric. Well, they claim not to, sometimes. Is it free speech or a dog whistle?

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a marketplace of ideas

Where those without any are especially welcome.

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All three of the AP contributing reporters are from very liberal news organizations. Free speech, other than that supporting their point of view, scares them.

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Put Elon on a Space-X Starship and send him to Mars - there he can have philosophical discussions with someone on his intellect level - Marvin the Martian...

Musk purchased Twitter for $44 billion, it's now worth $24 billion and still going down...

In other words, he ran it into the ground...

Some genius...

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How has this lying pedalist have 200 million followers, Honestly I think that is just another lie spewed out of his mouth to give people the impression he is more popular than he really is.

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It is pretty rich for mainstream media to attack Musk, considering the polemic emanating from them and Dem politicians almost daily. How about all this "threat to democracy" and "must be stopped" stuff that is sent out to the population non-stop? Whatever Elon Musk might have said is mild compared to that. I would suggest all sides turn down the hype.

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a) A lot of people criticizing Musk lately (for just being human and expressing his opinions). Here’s one of the latest examples of the (positive) impact that Musk’s companies are having on Humanity: “ The Blindsight device from Neuralink will enable even those who have lost both eyes and their optic nerve to see.

Provided the visual cortex is intact, it will even enable those who have been blind from birth to see for the first time.

To set expectations correctly, the vision will be at first be low resolution, like Atari graphics, but eventually it has the potential be better than natural vision and enable you to see in infrared, ultraviolet or even radar wavelengths. “

b) If you lack common sense and the ability to differentiate between what’s true and what’s false, if you’re naive enough to believe that “your side” is always right / “the good guys”, and that the Internet (the world) should be a perfect place, if you’re not able to understand, accept or respect different opinions and beliefs, stay away from X (and social media in general).

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How about all this "threat to democracy" and "must be stopped" stuff that is sent out to the population non-stop?

What about it? claiming there is a problem that should be solved democratically is not a call to violence or joking about assassinating the people you would like to lose power. There is a huge difference.

Here’s one of the latest examples of the (positive) impact that Musk’s companies are having on Humanity: 

Even if the examples were correct (and that is a really big if) that does not justify the huge negative impacts he has, other companies have had extremely good results without having to make unethical human experiments, and the best part is that those other companies do not have a record of lies and broken promises that go back many years in the past.

If you lack common sense and the ability to differentiate between what’s true and what’s false, if you’re naive enough to believe that “your side” is always right / “the good guys”, and that the Internet (the world) should be a perfect place, if you’re not able to understand, accept or respect different opinions and beliefs, stay away from X (and social media in general).

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/elon-musks-worst-predictions-broken-124500231.html

I mean, for a person that so frequently say false things Musk surely have a lot of people in denial that will defend anything he says as dogma. That the internet is not perfect is a terribly bad argument against making it less worse.

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"Elon Musk has often inflamed politically tense moments, raising worries for the US election."

The left are frustrated by Elon coz there is no way they can control him like they do to everyone else. They can't frustrate him with money, he is already a self made billionaire. They can't control or manipulate him through physics or physics elements because he is better than most in physics, they can't abuse the space station because they will need him to transport those stuck there back to earth. Basically, the left with no way out results in hate and propaganda. Keep going Elon!!!

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a thinking emoji and a comment that “no one is even trying to assassinate” the Democratic president and vice president.

He's not implying there should be assassination attempts on them, but that in a short time only one side is getting attacked by shooters... and the media and the justice system. The powers-that-be definitely don't want Trump to win...

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The left are frustrated by Elon coz there is no way they can control him like they do to everyone else. 

Not the left but authorities, and that is understandable. When people have to act according to the law while a billionaire uses his money and power to act as if there were no consequences it is desirable that this causes frustration, people should not be above law even if rich and instead should face the same consequences as anybody else, or even more when their money and power can influence others to act negatively.

They can't control or manipulate him through physics or physics elements because he is better than most in physics

This makes absolutely no sense, the best physicist in the world would still be bound by a simple rope, knowing about physics confers no special ability against matter, that is crazy talk.

Basically, the left with no way out results in hate and propaganda. Keep going Elon!!!

Again not the left but authorities, and sad to see people rooting for privilege allowing people to affect other people rights with impunity.

He's not implying there should be assassination attempts on them, but that in a short time only one side is getting attacked by shooters

Since he routinely attacked the same subjects this is for sure an implication that can be argued. It takes no common sense to see how people that consider violence and weapons valid arguments to settle things would feel justified in acting against people that are not being targeted, yet. Specially when the shooters are both part of the same far-right ideology.

and the media and the justice system. The powers-that-be definitely don't want Trump to win...

Trump has not been targeted by the media even a fraction of what was done against biden, and he is definetely on the side of the powers that be, specially when he is promising to save billions for each of them and to support their interests above what would benefit the rest of the public. It is easy to se who most of elites are supporting.

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They can't frustrate him with money, he is already a self made billionaire.

'Self-made' must have a unique definition with MAGA. Right, that use that with Trump too.

If having a family with stock in an African blood emerald mine and receiving billions in government corporate welfare subsidies is 'self-made'..

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-list-government-subsidies-tesla-billions-spacex-solarcity-2021-12

Another example of the daily disinfo pumped out by the MAGA machine.

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So what!

They all do it, all sides spread baseless rumours about who or what they don't like.

Musk is a single person, not running for office and people can ignore him.

But when you have the VP candidate at the DNC followed by half a dozen new talking heads repeating a long debunked false incident about Vance and a sofa, well no problem, when the MSM and the presidential candidate constantly repeat the same inflammatory "threat to democracy" " wannabe dictator" etc... suddenly none of that has anything to do with assassination attempts.

The lack of logic is beyond comprehension, so if Musk say it, if Trump says it then it is dangerous, irresponsible and the cause of anything that happens. But if the left Media says it, Harris, Biden, Walz push false information or Stoke fears and people act on it, well suddenly nothing they said had anything to do with what happens.

This seems to apply across the board on the left and far left.

"Get out in the streets protests the police" followed by a wink and dog whispers and then violence breaks out looting, burning, etc...

Then they say "it wasn't us" "we didn't tell them to riot" and they sure didn't tell them not to or to stop.

Here is a clear way the left and media distort information.

If you listen to the leaders and MSN they will tell you that left protests are 95% peaceful and right are 40% violent.

What they don't point out the the number of violent protests.

Example in 2020 their were around 500 right wing protests/events (call them what you like) and around 200 ended in violence when counter protesters showed up.

But in the left side that same year there were 10,000 to 15,000 depending on who is collecting the data and how they classify "protests/demonstration" of those well over 500 became violent.

And property damage was in exponentially higher in the left protests/demonstration than the right wing ones.

So, Musk can spew whatever he wants, odds are some Left supporter, candidate, Reverend, activist leader, will say something and a good left protests will happen and streets will burn as ANTIFA and the like burn a few McDonald's and banks loot a few stores and MSM will make excuses along with Democrats.

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"Not the left but authorities, and that is understandable. When people have to act according to the law while a billionaire uses his money and power to act as if there were no consequences it is desirable that this causes frustration, people should not be above law even if rich and instead should face the same consequences as anybody else, or even more when their money and power can influence others to act negatively."@virus

You mean because Elon is rich he should keep his opinion to himself or his opinions puts him above the law because he is rich? The last time I checked we still had freedom of speech in America whether rich or poor. And being rich and opinionated was never a crime.

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and the media and the justice system. The powers-that-be definitely don't want Trump to win...

Trump has not been targeted by the media even a fraction of what was done against biden,

Really?!!! Were you actually able to type that with a straight face?

and he is definetely on the side of the powers that be, specially when he is promising to save billions for each of them and to support their interests above what would benefit the rest of the public. It is easy to se who most of elites are supporting.

Many of them are terrified that their gravy train will come to an end if Trump is elected. The MIC is clearly behind Harris.

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Musk's inspiration, Scottish Socialist Iain Banks would have given Musk a good thrashing for his recent actions.

That got me thinking. I find the US presidential elections a little weird. 300 million or so get to choose between two individuals. And most people's knowledge of those people are based on debates and speeches at rallies. We only learn about their verbals skills and not the probably more important skills and intelligence that will affect their actions should they become president. (We hear their answers, but not their questions.)

So I wonder if Musk would support replacing elections with the game of Azad which features in Iain M Banks' novel The Player Of Games. (The rules might have to change a little because of gender differences on that planet.)

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So I wonder if Musk would support replacing elections with the game of Azad which features in Iain M Banks' novel The Player Of Games. (The rules might have to change a little because of gender differences on that planet.)

Might give a chance for a third party candidate.

I might put my bets on Cornel West in a game of Azad for the US presidency.

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Self-made' must have a unique definition with MAGA. Right, that use that with Trump too.

If having a family with stock in an African blood emerald mine and receiving billions in government corporate welfare subsidies is 'self-made'..

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-list-government-subsidies-tesla-billions-spacex-solarcity-2021-12

Well, let me know how many people have started space exploration companies and succeeded like Elon. And I don't think the US government is stupid enough to offer subsidies to dead projects. Envy is worst than cancer I don't recall who said that, but surely he/she was not from the left.

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So what!

They all do it, all sides spread baseless rumours about who or what they don't like.

Which is a terrible excuse to let one person with such capacity to influence and manipulate others to do it with impunity, do you also think that violent crimes happening in every country would make it "so what" when a violent criminal is criticized?

But when you have the VP candidate at the DNC followed by half a dozen new talking heads repeating a long debunked false incident about Vance and a sofa, well no problem

Can you bring a reference where the VP candidate repeated the incident? else you would be the one spreading disinformation.

You mean because Elon is rich he should keep his opinion to himself or his opinions puts him above the law because he is rich? 

No, but that he should be held responsible for his negative actions the same as everybody else, even those that are not rich, you on the other hand tried to say that his money making him untouchable is good, as if having money should be enough for people to act immorally without repercussions, I guess there are religions where people believe that the rich can do evil as much as they can. Deplorable.

The last time I checked we still had freedom of speech in America whether rich or poor. 

Freedom of speech do not come with freedom of consequences, and promoting assassinations to millions should be investigated and punished as if done by someone without any power, you of course think it is fine to (supposedly) joke about killing people you don't like which is why you justify a billionaire doing it as well.

Really?!!! Were you actually able to type that with a straight face?

How many articles have you seen published about his obvious mental decline? it is much more pronounced than what is normal (and observed in Biden) even to the point of professionals and people close to him saying he is in deep problems, yet media does not cover this problem as much.

Many of them are terrified that their gravy train will come to an end if Trump is elected

Which ones? Trump plan is to let 1 percenters profit as much as possible, which is why he recieves so much support from them, those openly criticizing him are the (very rare) exception.

Well, let me know how many people have started space exploration companies and succeeded like Elon.

You mean scammed money from the US government to do something? if NASA losed even a tiny fraction of the resources Musk did it would have been disappeared without trace.

The reference provided prove how much Musk likes to lie and break promises, that is not what someone successful does, it is what a scammer does.

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How many articles have you seen published about his obvious mental decline? it is much more pronounced than what is normal (and observed in Biden) even to the point of professionals and people close to him saying he is in deep problems, yet media does not cover this problem as much.

Yeah, after they decided to get rid of Biden after his debate. But before then, everything about Biden was worded in a positive way, and any mention of his obvious dementia was considered "offensive/vulgar".

It is painfully obvious that any mention of Trump is worded in a negative manner, and any mention of whoever is opposing him is presented in a positive manner.

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