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Europe considers sending troops to Ukraine if there's a ceasefire. But would Russia accept?
By SAMYA KULLAB and EMMA BURROWS KYIV©2025 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Moriah
Ukrainian defeat?
Aren't those two words only spoken by Putin bots spreading misinformation?
TaiwanIsNotChina
Trump is also capable of causing such a thing.
TaiwanIsNotChina
If Trump completes he disgrace and Europe cannot hold the line with Ukrainian troops, it may be necessary to have others to provide some restraint to the rampaging animal.
Zaphod
Simple answer: No. They are still under the illusion that they can bully Russia like the usual third-world nation easily bullied by Nato.
Simple fact is, Russia is a major power, and Nato at its throat is unacceptable. And this has nothing to do with the much maligned Putin.
The base the conflict is reckless Nato expansion, and the only solution is a return to neutrality for Ukraine. If that happens, everything is negotiable. Otherwise, these European fools are edging ever closer to a world war.
Zaphod
TaiwanIsNotChina
If Trump completes he disgrace and Europe cannot hold the line with Ukrainian troops, it may be necessary to have others to provide some restraint to the rampaging animal.
Yes. Sadly I see that is the kind of media propaganda we are heading towards. The only way to settle the conflict is removal of Nato from UKR, but once Trump does that the warmongering legacy media will pounce on him, and this would be the misguided propaganda we would hear for the next 4 years.
But the other alternative is a forever war, so I hope does the right thing.
Fos
It is pretty much the opposite Moriah. Those are the words of the big US industrial military complex, trying to squeeze all the profits he can by the selling of American made weapons (over $110 billions since the start of the war), without committing any man on the ground. And on top of that start selling the LNG gas from Texas, three times the price of cleaner and safer Russian gas option. That is a hell of deal if it wasn’t for the (hundreds) of thousands ok Ukrainian lives lost.
isabelle
Then, Russia should be blaming Putin, given that his catastrophic war of conquest and vanity has brought NATO closer to Russia, with Sweden and Finland's accession.
Couple that with the facts that Russia has lost shocking amounts of personnel/materiel, its economy and trade have severely deteriorated, and its relations with the free world have been destroyed for generations, and it's clear that Putin has made a monumental error and his actions are to the detriment of the Russian people.
Putin's defeat would settle it.
Zaphod
isabelle
Yes, that upside-down view is what one would have if one takes all information from the likes of Jim Acosta and Rachel Madow.
What does "Putins defeat" even mean? This is Russias reaction to Nato expansion, not Putins private project. Putin is a moderate compared to e.g. Medvedev. And while for the US this is a conflict they can walk away from any time, for Russia this is an existential issue. There is no world in which any Russian government could tolerate US bases and missiles in Ukraine.
You really might want to look deeper than the legacy media talking heads.
TaiwanIsNotChina
russia is a regional power and part of having such a disgustingly large landmass is having enemies at your borders.
Fos
A regional power which managed to stop the US aggression and the warmongering plan of the US industrial military complex.
What was clear from the beginning is that Russia could not have the US nuclear missiles bases in Ukraine, same as Washington would not allow Moscow to hold military equipment in Canada. It is a very elementary principle of satellite countries and big empires.
The US warlords in Wall Street should cash their profits (at the expenses of Ukrainian lives) and walk away from Eastern Europe altogether
Zaphod
TaiwanIsNot
More like a continental power, and yes, having countless borders means being more sensitive to military encroachment at the borders than the US, which only has 2 borders and both with friendly vassal countries. Still, remember how Kennedy reacted when Chrushtchev wanted to put Sovjet missiles into Cuba.
Maybe Putin should put missiles in Cuba now and see how the narrative of "independent country that can do what it wants" works when the shoe is on the other foot.
Fos
Absolutely, that is the classic double standards and the sheer hypocrisy of the White House. And if only these commission based agents would take a look at some good old history books, before forwarding the usual manipulative narrative through the US military dispatches
Tokyo Guy
I'd like to see European troops in Ukraine, but only if their goal was to send more Russian troops home in body bags.
isabelle
Are you really disputing the fact that Putin's invasion of Ukraine caused Sweden and Finland to join NATO?
If so, that's very a odd view, as it's exactly what happened.
It means his invading hordes of murderers, thieves, rapists, and child abductors get out of sovereign Ukraine, including the Donbass and Crimea.
Then, Russia pays its reparations, and Putin submits to his war crimes trial.
Fos
As we all know the main responsible for this full scale disaster is the big US industrial military complex, the same one that President Dwight Eisenhower warned against in 1961.
Reality check: after almost four long years of blood puddles and promises of victory the war in Ukraine has mercilessly brought us back to the real world: the one recognized by Zelensky, the impossibility of winning.
A reminder that US stock markets rose to all time high in the last year since the top 5 weapons manufacturers in the world are all Americans.
Peter14
Russia still thinks it can dictate to other independent and sovereign nations what they can and cant do in their own country.
NATO has been on the border of Russia for decades and since Putin's invasion of Ukraine, that border with NATO has increased with Finland joining up. So attempting to use NATO as the excuse is fruitless. It is a bogus concept used by Putin to try to justify invasion.
Putin wants to expand Russia, plain and simple. Russia is a huge threat now and if it expands and gets another 40 million people, guess what, that threat gets bigger too.
Deal with this while it is smaller. Letting it grow is like letting a cancer spread before taking medical steps to halt the threat.
Russia is not a victim, it is a predator and falling for its threats is letting it get its way and win. Standing up to it face to face is the only way to stop this lunacy.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Not a single US soldier committed to the fight.
There were never any bases or nuclear missiles in Ukraine. Still wondering where this gem comes from.
The UN Charter is quite clear that russia is a war criming state.
Yes, you would like the US to abandon Europe as that would serve your paymasters well.
TaiwanIsNotChina
If russia wasn't such a terrible neighbor, it could have had friends as well.
We can always put the nukes back in Turkey and blockade Cuba again and still be less of an offender country than russia.
Peter14
Deflection, deflection, deflection is the Kremlin policy to keep away from the truth that everyone knows the entire responsibility for Russia invading Ukraine, is Putin's desire to expand Russian borders and to increase his personal wealth through the giant Russian military industrial complex that Putin has grown exponentially to keep his invasion going for as long as possible.
Putin and his greed, warmongering blood lust has seen hundreds of thousands of casualties for his personal monetary benefit. He doesnt want this war to end, he wants POWER and the more the better. That is Gods honest truth!
Fos
Perhaps you swapped the subject? US department commission getting higher, what a surprise :)
A bit of history check, away from the US military dispatches:
U.S. defense budget is more than 10 times higher than Russia’s
The new statistics from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute say that the 41 companies in the Top 100 are based in the United States, and recorded arms revenues of $317 billion, half the total arms revenues of the Top 100 and 2.5 per cent more than in 2022. Since 2018, the top five companies in the Top 100 have all been based in the USA.
There is seems to be a total disconnection from any psychological perception, it seems :)
TaiwanIsNotChina
The Europeans understand that they cannot allow russian terrorists on their doorstop.
Still waiting...
TaiwanIsNotChina
But as you say, the US is not keeping up with russia so we clearly need to spend more.
TaiwanIsNotChina
And the next 5 are Chinese.
Fos
When you refer to Putin's personal monetary benefit. What do you mean by that?
A reminder that over $110 billions in arms were supplied to Ukraine from the warlords in Wall Street, and the US financial markets are on all time high.
Worth to note that top SIPRI Top 100 arms-producing and military services companies in the world are all Americans:
Lockheed Martin (USA), Raytheon Technologies (USA), Northrop Grumman (USA), Boeing (USA), General Dynamics (USA)
So in what way Putin is actually making money?