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Falsehoods plague elections as voters tackle Trumpian tactics
By Anuj Chopra WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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dagon
Right wing corporate controlled oligarchs accusing opponents of being "deep state" or "elites" are like that Spiderman meme of all the variants pointing at eachother.
The alt-right is using fake populist movements to install corporate kleptocrats in response to neo-liberal Democratic centrism.
bass4funk
Funny hearing that coming from the corporate and intel embedded left.
No, the anti-establishment conservative platform is to weed out the RINO elites as well as the Democrat socialist elites from the platform of politics.
Anonymous
When there are left-leaning editors of MSM in their corner the DNC doesn’t have to worry about their anti-democratic activities exposed to sunlight.
dagon
Where did you get that idea? They love them and are owned by them.
They Democratic leadership is in no way socialist leaning. Maybe at the fringes (the Squad and Bernie).
bass4funk
They’re not Capitalist leaning for sure.
Now that’s an entirely different can of worms
dagon
With the rightist media in the RNC corner covering for their neo-feudalistic agenda it all sort of balances out in the end don't you think?
The only losers are the American people and truth in media.
lincolnman
Disinformation is now a key strategy in the Repub Party...one they learned from the Russian disinformation campaign that supported them in the 2016 election...
Lying, fabricating, twisting...you see it all encapsulated in "The Big Lie" that now captures more than half of all Repub voters...
Couple that with both Putin and Xi directing their intel services to propagate disinformation supporting Trump and critical of the Dems and Biden and you have a real attack on our democracy....
Lord Dartmouth
Hillary Clinton has always rejected the validity of Donald Trump's election in 2016, falsely citing Russian meddling. Interesting how no one in the left-leaning MSM seems to care...
painkiller
“Stolen emails, stolen drone, stolen election …..welcome to the world of #unpresidentedTrump,” Jean-Pierre said in December 2016
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/12/incoming-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-said-the-2016-election-was-stolen/
wallace
Breitbart ROFL
Many republicans no longer support Trump who they see as a liability.
painkiller
wallaceToday 12:32 pm JST
No comeback when there is a Democrat denier.
ROFL
Laguna
What's with the fascist Mussolini glove Trump's been taken to wearing? Perhaps he's emphasizing how small his hands are.
Anonymous
You are aware that MSM stands for mainstream media? This includes CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC news and their entertainment programming plus their respective online sites. Add the NYT, WaPo, and other newspapers & magazines.
The MSM volume of largely biased, leftist or left-leaning reportage DWARFS that of your “right media”.
“Neo-feudalistic”? It’s the DNC and its Silicon Valley collaborators who would reverse centuries of movement toward individual rights and freedom for a return to serfdom.
Wick's pencil
Interesting, no mention of the Twitter files showing the FBI and twitter interfering with the election.
Nemo
Because they didn't. This is the fever-dream of a cult.
dagon
Thanks for the basic English acronym lesson Anonymous.
If you think the Bezos owned WaPo is leftist promoting and not a neo-liberal Davos consensus promoting mouthpiece that has some good investigative pieces yet is part of a corporatist agenda I think you need to update the lacunae in your erudition.
Ah_so
Interesting how the very first comment on this thread pretty much confirms the thrust of the article.
wallace
Did the democrat supporters storm the Capitol Building? Did they try to stop the handover of power? Did they file hundreds of court cases claiming fraud?
bass4funk
No, but they burned down a police station, for 3 months in the summer of 2020 rioted, looted and destroyed hundreds of businesses
They hunted and tried to undo a duly elected president for 4 years and still to this day.
Which is their absolute constitutional right to do.
Technically, “it should.”
With good and valid reason.
wallace
bass4funk
that was nothing to do with elections which is the topic of this post. You don't know how many of those people would be democrats.
But we know the rioters who stormed the Capitol Building on Jan 6 were republicans.
The democrats did nothing in 2017 to stop the handover of power. Obama attended Trump's inauguration. Which he didn't do for Biden. Trump was a very sore loser.
Trump filed more than 200 court cases and had everyone thrown out.
There is a republican backlash against Trump, especially after the failure of the elections last month.
Ah_so
@Logg - an example of a falsehood is the claim that the 202 election was stolen - it wasn't and there is no evidence to suggest that it was, and we now know that Trump knew it wasn't stolen (or at least he knew that that was the opinion of everyone who was in a position to know). However, this falsehood has been repeated over and over again until it lead to a riot. If you listen to some sources, the riot was a BLM or FBI false flag operation to discredit Trump - clear misinformation.
The article above provides a number of specific examples from around the world as to how lies and disinformation have been used to undermine democracy.
bass4funk
It has everything to do with it.
You don’t know that for certain, but I agree, they definitely weren’t Biden supporters.
No, but they and the FBI did during and are still trying to stop him from running in 2024
And the Dems tried everything to stop Trump from running and failed. They have one more day to try.
From the establishment and RINO’s not from the majority of his base and even were Trump to lose against DeSantis it’s equally just as good, in some cases even better, in many areas he’s worse than Trump so I’m not complaining.
https://ussanews.com/2022/12/21/another-poll-shows-trump-with-double-digit-lead-over-desantis-in-hypothetical-primary-matchup/
Logg
Ah_soToday 01:04 am JST
And the Democrats claimed the 2016 election was stolen.
Gets us back to the first comment here.
bass4funk
Predominately, trying to oust a sitting duly elected President.
Desert Tortoise
No that is emphatically not the case. What the Democrats pointed out is that due to the way electoral votes are awarded the winner of the popular vote doesn't necessarily become President. Rather the candidate earning the most electors wins. However because of how the US Constitution assigns electors for each state, based on the combined number of Senators and members of the House of Representatives, smaller lower population states have more electoral votes in proportion to their populations than the larger more populous states. That allows a Presidential candidate to amass more electoral votes while losing the popular vote. The Democrats point out, and this is hardly a new argument, that it is fundamentally undemocratic. This has happened in 1824, 1876. 1888, 2000 and 2016. In many ways the US Constitution awards far more legislative and political power to small rural states far out of proportion to their population. Increasingly big cities see themselves basically enslaved to more politically powerful but socially backward and economically unproductive rural areas and, yes, there is anger that the popular vote and the idea of one person, one vote does not apply to Presidential elections. The big cities in the US generate the wealth and pay the nations bills but their vote is less than that of rural areas. Fundamentally unjust.
Logg
Desert TortoiseToday 05:32 am JST
No that is emphatically not the case. What the Democrats pointed out is that due to the way electoral votes are awarded the winner of the popular vote doesn't necessarily become President.
Emphatically the case.
Here is one prominent Democrat saying the election was stolen.
Hillary wasn't talking about the popular vote, which as you noted, makes no difference in the outcome.
“You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you,”
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/05/06/hillary-clinton-says-election-was-stolen-from-her/
1glenn
I find it unbelievable that otherwise decent people would be fooled by a con-man like Trump.
painkiller
The Dems wrote the playbook for this and keep running the plays.
Portland is their Capitol x 10.