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"They were promoting these lies, in large part, because their audience wanted to hear them," Feldstein said.

And they will still want to hear them even though they now know they are lies. Cognitive dissonance never really troubles a conservative and especially not a Trump backer.

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Murdoch and Fox News lied about election fraud. They are the pits. Gullible audience.

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The network will be fine, compare that to the uncountable disinformation from the other two trailing networks FNC will weather out this incident.

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Fox News really is Faux News.

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The network will be fine, compare that to the uncountable disinformation from the other two trailing networks FNC will weather out this incident.

Who are those other two? OAN and Newsmax?

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Just curious Bass, are you saying that the reporters at Fox News didn't knowingly and deliberately lie in their comments to the public? Simple answer, yes or no. No deflections or whataboutisms. Did they knowingly lie or didn't they?

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Fox News really is Faux News.

If that were the case they would have been long gone from the air, so if more than half of the country supports the network, they will be fine regardless of how the left screams Faux.

Just ask Anita Dunn.

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Just curious Bass, are you saying that the reporters at Fox News didn't knowingly and deliberately lie in their comments to the public?

Why would I speculate? I have no idea what they thought, knew, or didn't know. If the left wants to speculate let them do so, this is why they always get in trouble, they jump ahead of themselves.

Simple answer, yes or no. No deflections or whataboutisms. Did they knowingly lie or didn't they?

Sorry, you don't get to dictate how I should answer a question. But yes, I answered your question.

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 This past week, Tucker Carlson devoted his show to seeking to downplay the violence of Trump's supporters during the assault on the Capitol on January 6, 2021, with footage presented as exclusive.

The security video cameras revealed on the show are showing everything that happened on Jan 6th and it is different from the narrative, not downplaying but...exposing lies.

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The security video cameras revealed on the show are showing everything that happened on Jan 6th and it is different from the narrative, not downplaying but...exposing lies.

Yes, also it's amazing that the Dems would oppose the release of the full video, usually, Dems are for full transparency and now they're not? This is why half of the country doesn't trust these people and this administration, especially the DOJ.

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Fox News humiliated its watchers.

Humiliating the vulnerable and less intelligent who believed Trump’s claims after election is disgraceful.

I despise people preying on the vulnerable. Amoral.

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Fox News humiliated its watchers.

If that were true then their ratings would be in CNN and MSNBC Territory.

Humiliating the vulnerable and less intelligent who believed Trump’s claims after election is disgraceful. 

Well, with what we now know a lot of things didn't seem to add up, a lot.

I despise people preying on the vulnerable. Amoral

I feel the same and half of the nation is starting to feel it and realize it as well.

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But they kept their beliefs to themselves while letting conspiracists appear nightly on the prime-time shows of Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson

Con artists without an honest bone in their bodies. They were exposed and still some defend them.

I remember in ‘The Sting’ film part of the scam was that the scammed couldn’t know it was a scam even after it was over

Fox hosts are looking at their audience after scamming them. Yes, we scammed you. Keep watching us.

The amoral cheek of it is astonishing. These people have no capacity for shame.

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Fox News humiliated its watchers.

If that were true then their ratings would be in CNN and MSNBC Territory.

These posts could comprise a master class on logical fallacies, thanks for the incoherent flailings.

Specifically cum hoc ergo propter hoc, correlation does not imply causation.

You could equally argue that Fox News watchers just love being humiliated and endorse comforting falsehoods.

Which would seem to be borne out by the dynamics of the case and the politics of the Fox viewer base.

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Fox News and Disney TV are both fantasy channels.

Make believe.

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You could equally argue that Fox News watchers just love being humiliated and endorse comforting falsehoods

Just to be clear here, my idea of humiliated was in the eyes of the more balanced and intelligent people, including intelligent and balanced conservatives.

Your idea of them enjoying being humiliated is an interesting one, though.

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Con artists without an honest bone in their bodies.

The liberal media? Well, yes.

They were exposed and still some defend them. 

Ok, with what we know now of the last 2 months, things are just not what we were led to believe.

Fox hosts are looking at their audience after scamming them. Yes, we scammed you. Keep watching us. 

The left keeps saying this, have no idea how many times it was debunked.

The amoral cheek of it is astonishing. These people have no capacity for shame.

Gosh, if only the MSM would have this kind of concern, particularly being the dominant media source in the country.

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Fox News and Disney TV are both fantasy channels.

Different, FNC is owned by a conservative, and Disney is owned by woke libs.

Make believe.

Men can be women just by thinking about it. Yeah.....

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Why would anyone defend a TV News channel let alone Faux News.

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Why would anyone defend a TV News channel let alone Faux News

Millions.

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bass4funk

FNC is owned by a conservative

who no longer supports Trump and won't be voting for him again.

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Fox News and Disney TV are both fantasy channels.

*FNC is owned by an elderly Australian oligarch, and Disney owned by is the descendants of Roy and Walt, and two companies – Berkshire Hathaway elderly white capitalist Warren Buffet and Cadbury. *

Fixed it for you.

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Faux News isn't in Japan. No demand. Dsianey is very popular though.

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who no longer supports Trump and won't be voting for him again.

They don’t need to, no one cares, but Trump will still be covered by the network, he still appears and he still has a lot of pundits that support him, so he’s good.

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Faux News isn't in Japan. No demand. Dsianey is very popular though.

Yes, there is, there’s an international app you can download, thanks Apple and Google.

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Fox News really is Faux News.

If that were the case they would have been long gone from the air, so if more than half of the country supports the network, they will be fine regardless of how the left screams Faux.

Amazing...the far-right must have an addiction to humiliation...

Trump lies and scams their money to "Defend the Election" - then calls them the "great unwashed" and uses their money to pay his dodgy lawyers and Melania's fashion coordinator...

Bannon hustles them for money for his bogus "Build the Wall" fraud that paid for his European vacation...

Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham, et al, openly lie to them - saying on air how much they believe Trump's rigged election claims when in reality they think they are “mind-blowingly nuts”, “totally off the rails” and “completely BS”...

Yet as we see here, the far-rightists defend the liars and scoundrels...as they make them look like suckers and fools...

Just like when their hero Trump calls their hero DeSantis a "Groomer", they retreat to their alt-reality world where Trump didn't say that, some "Lib" did - here they purposely ignore Carlson saying he "hates Trump passionately"...then lying to their face as he fawns over Trump each night...

Humiliation - thy name is MAGA-world...

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It's not even close to being a news channel. It's an entertainment channel. Think of it like WWE Network. Its audience subscribes to a preordained narrative that fulfils their prejudices and worldview.

As an entertainment channel it is not required to adhere to any concepts of journalistic integrity or balanced coverage. Its talking heads can argue that they are entertainers so can say anything they want under freedom of speech laws.

You will find more truth on the WWE Network.

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It gives me great joy to see FOX News exposed.

Schadenfreude!!!

Nobody is buying the gaslighting anymore.

The other media networks are far more trustworthy.

You see @Bass4Funk, you can spam the chat with over 50% of the comments here, but the truth always comes out.

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Fox News saved America and made the world a safer place with its refusal to regurgitate a woke platform and instead brought the talents of Donald Trump to light.

It's difficult for non-US citizens to fully grasp the effect of Fox, and to understand the demographics of its viewers.

Hint--CNN coverage promotes the same experience one would have riding a Buzz lightyear ride at Disney.

It's fantasy.

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It gives me great joy to see FOX News exposed. 

Schadenfreude!!! 

How??

Nobody is buying the gaslighting anymore. 

So why are the viewers increasing?

The other media networks are far more trustworthy. 

So why are they losing in the ratings? What are you talking about? Lol

You see @Bass4Funk, you can spam the chat with over 50% of the comments here, but the truth always comes out.

Yes, ratings do matter.

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It's difficult for non-US citizens to fully grasp the effect of Fox, and to understand the demographics of its viewers.

It is easy to grasp for non-US citizens as well as we Yanks.

It is rightist billionaire corporate funded propaganda to have lower-middle class voters vote against their own best economic interests and align with a neo-liberal corporatist agenda.

And the demographic is mainly elderly Caucasian boomers.

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https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here-are-fox-news-msnbc-and-cnn-ratings-for-february-2023/524861/

And the demographic is mainly elderly Caucasian boomers.

Here we go with another debunked fallacy.

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dagonToday  01:10 pm JST

It is easy to grasp for non-US citizens as well as we Yanks. 

It is rightist billionaire corporate funded propaganda to have lower-middle class voters vote against their own best economic interests and align with a neo-liberal corporatist agenda.

Good learning material for understanding woke mentality.

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Fox News saved America and made the world a safer place with its refusal to regurgitate a woke platform and instead brought the talents of Donald Trump to light.

While in private they were saying;

Carlson "passionately” hates Trump: In a number of private text messages, Carlson was harshly critical of Trump. In one November 2020 exchange, Carlson said Trump’s decision to snub Joe Biden’s inauguration was “so destructive.” Carlson added that Trump’s post-election behavior was “disgusting” and that he was “trying to look away.” In another text message conversation, two days before the January 6 attack, Carlson said, “We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait.” Carlson added of Trump, “I hate him passionately.” The Fox host said of the Trump presidency, “That’s the last four years. We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There isn’t really an upside to Trump.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/08/media/fox-news-dominion-filings-reliable-sources/index.html

It's difficult for non-US citizens to fully grasp the effect of Fox, and to understand the demographics of its viewers.

Not really - its very similar to state-controlled media in Russia and China...and we know what Fox thinks of its viewers - they're too weak to handle the truth...so they lie to them...

Hint--CNN coverage promotes the same experience one would have riding a Buzz lightyear ride at Disney.

Based on what he said above, a ride on the nightly Tucker Carlson delusion show is a real buzz....ROFL...

It's fantasy.

Far-right, alt-reality fantasy - where their far-right media hero who called their far-right former President "destructive", "disgusting". and who's reign was a "disaster"...can never be acknowledged...or their brain breaks...

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While in private they were saying;

Carlson "passionately” hates Trump: In a number of private text messages, Carlson was harshly critical of Trump. In one November 2020 exchange, Carlson said Trump’s decision to snub Joe Biden’s inauguration was “so destructive.” Carlson added that Trump’s post-election behavior was “disgusting” and that he was “trying to look away.” In another text message conversation, two days before the January 6 attack, Carlson said, “We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait.” Carlson added of Trump, “I hate him passionately.” The Fox host said of the Trump presidency, “That’s the last four years. We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There isn’t really an upside to Trump.”

Well, they can think whatever they want, that’s the beauty about America. Wonder what they say about Joe privately?

Not really - its very similar to state-controlled media in Russia and China...and we know what Fox thinks of its viewers - they're too weak to handle the truth...so they lie to them...

More emotional liberal debunked babble?.

Based on what he said above, a ride on the nightly Tucker Carlson delusion show is a real buzz....ROFL...

His ratings say otherwise.

It's fantasy.

Far-right, alt-reality fantasy - where their far-right media hero who called their far-right former President "destructive", "disgusting". and who's reign was a "disaster"...can never be acknowledged...or their brain breaks...

What?

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Well, they can think whatever they want, that’s the beauty about America. Wonder what they say about Joe privately?

Given how utterly dishonest they are, it wouldn’t surprise me if they voted for Biden.

Tucker Carlson in particular is on record despising Trump.

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Given how utterly dishonest they are, it wouldn’t surprise me if they voted for Biden. 

Naw, with the exception of Juan Williams and that brainchild Tarlov they’re waaaay too conservative and have too much pride to do that to themselves.

Tucker Carlson in particular is on record despising Trump.

Ok, and?

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Tucker Carlson in particular is on record despising Trump.

Ok, and?

Here is a prime example of why the conservative media complex has a illogical, pre-rational cult-like base that is immune from self-improvement and reflection.

The main spokesperson for the network which you are defending and promoting in the thread attached to this article, whom is often quoted and cited by you and yours, has been documented as cynically contradicting the opinions which he promulgated to his audience.

You need not demand total infallibility from such sources but at least some authenticity?

But in the end it is beyond rationality, and even emotion which you somehow attribute to the "libs" and just a slavish devotion.

Ok, and?

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Here is a prime example of why the conservative media complex has a illogical, pre-rational cult-like base that is immune from self-improvement and reflection. 

Democrats??

The main spokesperson for the network which you are defending and promoting in the thread attached to this article, whom is often quoted and cited by you and yours, has been documented as cynically contradicting the opinions which he promulgated to his audience. 

He owns the network, he doesn’t have any news journalist status or say.

You need not demand total infallibility from such sources but at least some authenticity?

Such as?

But in the end it is beyond rationality, and even emotion which you somehow attribute to the "libs" and just a slavish devotion. 

No, just going by history

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While in private they were saying;

*Carlson "passionately” hates Trump: In a number of private text messages, Carlson was harshly critical of Trump. In one November 2020 exchange, Carlson said Trump’s decision to snub Joe Biden’s inauguration was “so destructive.” Carlson added that Trump’s post-election behavior was “disgusting” and that he was “trying to look away.” In another text message conversation, two days before the January 6 attack, Carlson said, “We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait.” Carlson added of Trump, “I hate him passionately.” The Fox host said of the Trump presidency, *“That’s the last four years. We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There isn’t really an upside to Trump.”

Well, they can think whatever they want, that’s the beauty about America. Wonder what they say about Joe privately?

So they can tell you Trump is a hero on air, but in reality say Trump is a "disaster" and "disgusting" in private....

You know, lying to you and playing you for a fool... OK, it's your self-respect...

Not really - its very similar to state-controlled media in Russia and China...and we know what Fox thinks of its viewers - they're too weak to handle the truth...so they lie to them...

More emotional liberal debunked babble?.

It's in official court records - Hannity, Carlson, and Ingraham lied to you because they thought you couldn't handle the truth...so they gave you lies... Even Rupert admitted it...

Based on what he said above, a ride on the nightly Tucker Carlson delusion show is a real buzz....ROFL...

His ratings say otherwise.

Thank you - if you're bragging about his ratings you're just admitting the majority of MAGA viewers are being humiliated and conned...

It's fantasy.

Far-right, alt-reality fantasy - where their far-right media hero who called their far-right former President "destructive", "disgusting". and who's reign was a "disaster"...can never be acknowledged...or their brain breaks...

What?

Thanks again - you just proved you can't admit it...

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It’s not difficult for anyone to understand since Murdoch confessed and admitted he and the presenters of Faux News are serial liars just as Trump is also.

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So they can tell you Trump is a hero on air, but in reality say Trump is a "disaster" and "disgusting" in private....

They can tell you his accomplishments and not like the guy. At least they’re not spoon feeding you to like any politician. You can complement a person without having to like the person.

You know, lying to you and playing you for a fool... OK, it's your self-respect...

The way the liberal media does? That’d what you actually meant.

It's in official court records - Hannity, Carlson, and Ingraham lied to you because they thought you couldn't handle the truth...so they gave you lies... Even Rupert admitted it...

And we got so much more from the Twitter files Schollenberger and Taibbi, so now we know this administration and Dems lied.

Thank you - if you're bragging about his ratings you're just admitting the majority of MAGA viewers are being humiliated and conned...

A bit more in depth actually.

Thanks again - you just proved you can't admit it..

No, I just proved the is full of stagnant crap.

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It’s not difficult for anyone to understand since Murdoch confessed and admitted he and the presenters of Faux News are serial liars just as Trump is also.

As If Murdoch knows, he just owns News Corp, he doesn’t run it. Try again. More leftist manufacturer outrage.

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bass4funk

previously you praised Murdoch but now you don’t give him credit because of his confession. Murdoch ran the entire empire for decades. His son is now the CEO of Fox Corp.

In the heat of the moment, right after Election Day 2020, media magnate Rupert Murdoch knew that the hosts on his prized Fox News Channel were endorsing lies from then-President Donald Trump about election fraud.

And he did nothing to intervene to stop it.

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/28/1159819849/fox-news-dominion-voting-rupert-murdoch-2020-election-fraud

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previously you praised Murdoch but now you don’t give him credit because of his confession.

I like the guy, but no, I don’t care for his opinion, I’m independent in my thinking.

Murdoch ran the entire empire for decades. His son is now the CEO of Fox Corp. 

No, he didn’t. It was Roger Ailes

And he did nothing to intervene to stop it.

Neither did the Dems for 3 months of rioting, nor did they ever hold Lois Lerner accountable.

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Given how utterly dishonest they are, it wouldn’t surprise me if they voted for Biden. 

Naw, with the exception of Juan Williams and that brainchild Tarlov they’re waaaay too conservative and have too much pride to do that to themselves

I don’t know. They’ve proved themselves utterly dishonest in what they say in public. You can’t trust these people as far as you can throw them.

As the old saying goes, I’d trust a thief over a liar.

My money would be probably be on Tucker Carlson in particular voting Biden in 2020.

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