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From throwing soup to suing governments, there’s strategy to climate activism’s seeming chaos

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From throwing soup to suing governments,

The soup throwing at art is dumb and looks like something uaed to discredit climate change .

Greta blocking a conference of oil oligarchs and getting arrested is speaking truth to power.

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I lean very much towards the activism, but to destroy art this way is a sin. What did people like Van Gogh have to do with today's climate? Such art is precious and the destruction of it actually puts the climate protesters in a bad light. It disgusts me that art, real art, is the target of a group that has a good reason for their activism. They are turning at least as many people, if not more, against them.

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The soup throwing at art is dumb and looks like something uaed to discredit climate change .

Exactly, throwing soup to get attention is exactly that, a childish moronic act.

Greta blocking a conference of oil oligarchs and getting arrested is speaking truth to power.

No one cares what this kid thinks, remove her and continue the drilling.

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While it is hard to get into the mind of judges and juries, research shows that in cases such as workers’ and women’s rights struggles, radical and anti-government protests can have an impact on them.

Much depends on the jurisdiction, naturally. If one strays into the world of juries, those at the bar know the reception that this kind of conduct would likely result in, by location and demographic. Some I can think of are extremely affectionate towards this type of - in the author's own word - "madness." While others are quite adverse. Protestors seem to know this, and much of what they do happens more in the former location. They may be soup-or-glue-covered, but they are not dumb.

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No artwork has been damaged.

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bass4funk

No one cares what this kid thinks, remove her and continue the drilling.

Try to keep up. Greta Thunberg is not a kid. You don't support her First Amendment rights?

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Try to keep up. Greta Thunberg is not a kid.

Difference of opinion

You don't support her First Amendment rights?

Not when it involves smashing government and private properties in order to get attention, it just makes you look like an incompetent idiot.

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bass4funk

Try to keep up. Greta Thunberg is not a kid.

Difference of opinion

Nothing to do with opinion. She is legally an adult. She is 21 years old.

You don't support her First Amendment rights?

Not when it involves smashing government and private properties in order to get attention, it just makes you look like an incompetent idiot.

Please list any property smashed or damaged by Thunberg. She has only protested.

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There is no justification in actions activism that threatens lives.

To block emergency service from saving lives.

There is no excuse, no right or reason, no moral righteous ethical action, that can somehow show just cause for protests that cause or maximise harsh belligerent recourse to people who are simply making a living providing for their families.

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To block emergency services from saving lives.

agreed.

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Wallace

Difficult, the right to protest, march, to forcefully challenge, dissent.

To enact laws, grant powers to government, to politically define when or where civil force of state can intervene, sometimes with battens and shields under the guise to protect UK freedoms.

This 2024 general election could be a defining moment for such questions to be answered in a vote.

Never has there been a public/electorate divided, housing, wage renumeration, living standards, basic health care.

Social care for the elderly.

I contribute to my UK elderly family members housing costs/care services, quality of life.

The Pandemic took a harsh toll fanatically for the whole family, however, presented a lesson in the realities of government.

I suggest this will not be lost on public sentiment at the ballot box.

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itsonlyrocknroll

I don't agree with or support the actions of the No Oil protesters. UK citizens, under this government, have lost many civil rights.

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There will be changes coming, for the best?

Is up to the electorate to decide.

Has the finer elements of neighbourly kindness, understanding, to grasp the very basic meaning of communities ability, the spirit that bring people together disserted a nation that survived two world wars?

Complacency, greed go hand in hand with lack of empathy.

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Right to violently protest bogus election steal versus right to protest global climate crisis by civil disobedience. Hmm! Might put some in a pickle only resolved for them by personal preference rather than any higher principles.

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This kid always seems to find trouble, not sure why she can’t get a job and try to do something positive that doesn’t involve annoying the public. There are a ton of celebs that do so and are not an eyesore.

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bass4funk

This kid always seems to find trouble, not sure why she can’t get a job and try to do something positive that doesn’t involve annoying the public. There are a ton of celebs that do so and are not an eyesore.

Which "kid" are you talking about?

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There are hundreds of thousands of protesters across many countries.

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I wish they would do something positive instead, like trying to get people to buy more local or saving electricity. It may only make a small difference, but I think the effect would be bigger and create a better movement than the current polarizing tactics. Some positivity instead of all the doom and gloom around climate change would help getting more people on board I think.

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dagonToday  07:02 am JST

From throwing soup to suing governments,

The soup throwing at art is dumb and looks like something uaed to discredit climate change .

Greta blocking a conference of oil oligarchs and getting arrested is speaking truth to power.

The soup throwing is a childish and disgusting act of vandalism and a waste of good food.

> Gene HennighToday  07:16 am JST

I lean very much towards the activism, but to destroy art this way is a sin. What did people like Van Gogh have to do with today's climate? Such art is precious and the destruction of it actually puts the climate protesters in a bad light. It disgusts me that art, real art, is the target of a group that has a good reason for their activism. They are turning at least as many people, if not more, against them.

It's a crime. You don't win friends or allies to your cause by stupid stunts like this. In the USA there's the Earth Liberation Front and what do they do? Trash up cars in a garage and spray paint their logo around, does that make any sense? Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid!

As for Greta, she's a peaceful protestor at worst (if you can even say that). Like Gandhi, Abp. Tutu and MLK, she's being peaceful about it all. Maybe a thorn in the side to the snooty fatcats but then again that's their problem. The India subcontinent got freedom from Brit occupation w/o a single shot fired, South African apartheid is now nearly 30 years gone and MLK brought positive changes for Black Americans (although some white folks are SLOW to mature). Greta will rank amongst those peaceful giants one day, just watch.

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As Mike Tyson said, “Everybody’s got a strategy until I punch them in the face.”

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I hope these morons get an invoice for cleaning up there mess.

Does the picture have a protective glass covering the front ?

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Also how about being charged with criminal damage ?

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