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GOP's hard-line tactics on migrants refocus midterm debate
By STEVE PEOPLES, ADRIANA GOMEZ LICON and PAUL WEBER MIAMI©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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dagon
Pure political theater like "the Wall" and it will be equally effective.
Treat the employers and businesses of illegal immigrants like drug traffickers: Asset forfeiture seizure, confiscations and imprisonment.
The incentives, the source are the problem. I thought the Republican business leaders were all about the power of "incentivization".
lincolnman
Absolutely correct. MAGA-theater to entertain, fool, and manipulate the far-right....
US Governors engaging in human trafficking - lying to the migrants to get them on the buses and planes - no different from the cartels and coyotes in Mexico...
Say that after you fail to gain the majority Mitch - and you're relegated to Minority Leader again for your last term...LOL..
Desert Tortoise
I'd rather have a poor immigrant for a neighbor than some white bigot like Ron Desantis.
Pukey2
The next war won't be in Taiwan. It'll be right in the middle of USA. Do I care?
bass4funk
DeSantis is a bigot because he respects the sovereignty of the US? Because he, like most Americans don’t want millions of illegals to pour in the US? I disagree. I think he should send all of them to sanctuary states, these states campaigned, supported and with pride protected the policy, then they are the ones that should take care of them, they should find them employment and or subsidize them in every possible way, anything else would be a lie or bigoted.
lincolnman
Wrong. They weren't illegal. These were all Venezuelan asylum seekers fleeing the Marxist Government, who had already been processed by the Immigration Service... Huge difference...
They were in Texas, not Florida...waiting for their asylum requests to be finalized...
DeSantis used Florida tax payer money to fly these migrant families, and lied to them saying they would be provided jobs and support....
That is textbook human trafficking....for which he is now under criminal investigation...
He's done, toast, finito...
bass4funk
Then send them to sanctuary states. They are the ones that championed and created these safe spaces for illegals.
But we don’t want them, we don’t need more illegals, we already can’t control the border as is, the border patrol and CBP are not even allowed to capture, send them back or cite them. I agree with Abbott on this one, LA should be able to accommodate them, they have money, even though their tax base is dwindling, but still.
Seems like the majority of people support it, for that, you can use as much of my money as you need.
https://hannity.com/media-room/poll-51-of-americans-support-sending-migrants-to-sanctuary-cities/
If that’s the weak case they’re presenting for him sending 50 illegals, he should double down and send as many as possible, maybe then these libs will get a inkling of what we have to deal with.
Liberals keep saying that, just not going to happen, but we get it. The left need another scapegoat.
lincolnman
Just can't get it thru your head these folks were LEGAL migrant asylum seekers already processed by Immigrations....just waiting for their finalization. Even Jared knows that and thinks it's wrong...
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-trump-son-in-law-jared-kushner-floriida-gov-ron-desantis-immigrants-20220922-avsy4yk4dvezjnkwlelghax42a-story.html
Ditto - once again, you're wrong, they weren't illegal...
Hannity? Thanks for the laugh...
No matter how much you want to believe it, these folks weren't illegal - they presented themselves to US Immigrations as the border requesting asylum from Marxist Venezuela...
Your argument is worthless since it's based on this proven falsehood....
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bass4funk
I think it’s the other way around. We are on the verge of having over 2 million illegals waltz through our border over half (and growing) of the border states don’t want them.
I’m not wrong that’s why we have sanctuary states. They pride themselves on
Reposting a Rasmussen report, but yeah, liberals think everything is funny until the jokes on them, then they scream, that’s not fair! Now that’s funny.
You can believe that if you wish, I don’t and definitely believe that Martha’s Vineyard is a clean and solid place where any illegal can rest assured knowing that liberals have the necessary financial assets to care for these people.
That goes both ways, but I could care less where they come from. The left campaigned and created sanctuary states, now they can do what they set out to create, a safe haven for illegals. Good luck to them, and I hope and pray Abbott and RDS don’t stop until this administration addresses the border issue.
plasticmonkey
You need to learn even a little bit about immigration laws and asylum laws. And basic reasoning skills. Or are you just trying to wind up “libs” by pretending not to make sense?
bass4funk
I do, my mother’s side were immigrants and they came to America the right and legal way. So I do know, and I am saying this as reasonably as i can, but thanks for your concern.
wallace
There is a legal difference between those who are immigrants and those who are asylum seekers.
bass4funk
You would have no idea what he can or cannot find. You don’t work with the man or know his living circumstances.
Yes, so sanctuary states and places like Martha’s Vineyard has the money and resources and they’re more kind-hearted people.
wallace
bass4funk
Read the articles being published. Seems I know more than you.
Asylum applies at the point of entry, not some state transported to which is illegal.
bass4funk
Well, there’s no way to prove or disprove that comment.
There is no way to even believe for one second that any of these illegals and certainly the vast majority of them applied for asylum, none. As I have told you for years, I will always believe the word of a border patrol agent over any white-tie shirt Washington pencil establishment bureaucrat.
https://youtu.be/CVYH2S5RiMs
Him, I definitely believe without question.
wallace
bass4funk
There is if you bother to read them. Here is one to get you started
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2022/08/10/mar-a-lago-is-looking-to-hire-91-foreign-workers-this-year/?sh=c28a55c49fc5.
The point of asylum, which is covered by international laws, and which the US is a signature, they don't have to prove it on arrival. They just request it. They are then detained while the country investigates their reasons for asylum and then a decision is made whether to grant them asylum.
Border patrols and agents have no said if any person is an asylum seeker or not. They are required to follow the law.
prionking
This is hilarious. Leftists go apoplectic when their NIMBYist policies backfire on them and decent people like DeSantis show them up as the elitist hypocrites they are.
bass4funk
I did and the article was from a reporter that was surmising the situation, and not based on actual observation or even knowing the records. So again, we can surmise all we want, but we don’t know.
I know, but if there are people that applied and are in waiting, fine, but that’s not even close to the majority of illegals that are coming into the nation.
Again, I believe their numbers and could care less what Washington or the DOJ say.
Now that’s a real funny one.
lincolnman
BS. They presented themselves to Immigrations and requested asylum - they were processed by Immigrations and were awaiting their final hearing. Just more anti-immigrant hate....
Agree - better at lying, manipulating their low-intellect voters, and much better at fascism...
So? Doesn't change the fact that under US law, asylum seekers are not illegal. Your opinion (incorrect) just just verifies your anti-immigrant, racist bias...
You're 100% wrong....
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-states
Once again, thanks for the laugh...
Don't believe a fact, huh? OK, argue the earth is flat all you want....ROFL...
Utterly worthless - for all to see...
bass4funk
Then they go to any sanctuary state that wants them.
No, because DeSantis and Abbott are doing the right thing to help them. I believe they should be happy and welcomed with open arms to progressives that want them.
I believe sanctuary states are where they should reside, maybe now Biden will try and seal the wall. Until then, keep sending them, illegals and asylum seekers.
This administration policies are.
lincolnman
Thank you for admitting they were legal asylum seekers....there wasn't that hard, was it....
See above - you just contradicted yourself...an almost daily occurrence
Believe all you want - if you think real hard, it may come true - just like declassifying...ROFL...
Yoda-speak? Again thanks for admitting you were wrong...
bass4funk
And thank you for agreeing with me that they should go to sanctuary states
As you do, as well.
Nothing to do with believe, I see that DeSantis and Abbott are right in their new policy
Then you should try harder
bass4funk
I completely agree.
TokyoLiving
The republican museum emboldened by the neo-fascism of the little Duce of Mar-a-Lago, are showing the true kind of petty human beings they really are, they can't stand their fantasies of the US becoming their dreamed white christian nationalist utopia..
Little pathetic wannabe "banana-republic" clown-dictators like Trump, DeSantis or Abott and the all entourage of GOP neo-fascist politicians are a social danger, they are taking away women's rights, now they are going after the rights of immigrants, Latinos, blacks and the LGBT community..
All these violations of human rights are going to pay dearly this November..
They must be stopped..
bass4funk
Yes, once McCarthy retakes the gavel, a lot of people are going to pay dearly.
wallace
They should be detained in the state they arrived in.
bass4funk
That won’t get Biden’s or the Democrats attention, transporting them to blue sanctuary states will though and have been.
lincolnman
Sure, legal immigrants should be able to go anywhere....that's America... Glad you finally admitted your claim that they were illegal was BS,,,
Prove it...
Another contradiction - your words; "*I believe **sanctuary states are where they should reside,"*
That's two self-owns just on this thread...
Try harder, I will - for those who don't understand English...ROFL...
wallace
It is illegal for anyone to knowingly transport an immigrant or undocumented .
bass4funk
Then go to a state that wants you, that’s America.
They should.
Thats what DeSantis and Abbott
wallace
Supporting and encouraging others to break the law.