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International reaction to Gaza siege has exposed growing rift between West and Global South

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By Jorge Heine

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While the leaders of countries like the U.S., the UK and Germany have been among the most strident supporters of Israel during the crisis, the same is not true for non-Western nations.

Regardless of global support, the US and the others are on the right side of this matter, and must continue to fight against antisemitism and the terrorism that accompanies it.

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Holocausts did take happen in the past but it doesn't mean granting right to do current genocide. At least global south are agree with that.

Key rising powers from the Global South have been among the most adamant nations outside the Arab world in their criticism of this unwavering Western support of Israel.

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Yeah, yeah. More like a rift between the US and everybody else. Never worried the US before, not sure why it would now. All of these countries not in the ME have bigger issues to worry about, anyways.

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about 45 members abstained – including 15 members of the EU, plus the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and Japan.

The 'Global South' was accused of fence sitting regarding the conflict in Ukraine, but now it's the West which is sitting on the fence.

Just shows that countries which didn't take sides in the war in Ukraine were right all along, since strategic interests trump all that empty rhetoric about 'rules based order'.

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ThubanToday 07:23 am JST

Key rising powers from the Global South have been among the most adamant nations outside the Arab world in their criticism of this unwavering Western support of Israel.

But many people in the West think USA + UK + New Zealand = the international community.

Wrong.

The Global South and the Arab World led by Russia, China and India are the future.

India is not your ally and neither are all of the other countries just looking to make a quick buck.

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EvilBuddhaToday 07:39 am JST

about 45 members abstained – including 15 members of the EU, plus the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and Japan.

The 'Global South' was accused of fence sitting regarding the conflict in Ukraine, but now it's the West which is sitting on the fence.

Just shows that countries which didn't take sides in the war in Ukraine were right all along, since strategic interests trump all that empty rhetoric about 'rules based order'.

Then I assume the Global South will remain quiet on Gaza. Everything is about the rupees after all.

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The US has used its veto power at least 34 times to block UN Security Council resolutions that were critical of Israel. What hold does Israel have over the US?

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The US has used its veto power at least 34 times to block UN Security Council resolutions that were critical of Israel. What hold does Israel have over the US?

This is why the US is the leader of the world, no matter who is sitting in the White House, because the majority of Americans know right from wrong. And this is why advanced countries in Asia and the Pacific, and in Europe choose the be on the side of the US because they know if they are militarily threatened the US will do the right thing for them.

It is of course not a surprise that America is going to support the inly democracy in the Middle East after it has undergone a horrific terrorist attack. It's the right thing to do, and as someone mentioned above, we, the US, do not care what the Global South thinks about this issue. Their opinions are irrelevant.

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The US has vetoed at least four UNSC resolutions condemning Israel’s settlements on Palestinian land, which are considered illegal under international law. US vetoes of resolutions condemning Israel’s settlements date back to at least 1983. It all smells very bad. So, why does the US choose to support Israel over and above international law? It would be unlikely to do so for any other of its "allies".

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The US has vetoed at least four UNSC resolutions condemning Israel’s settlements on Palestinian land, which are considered illegal under international law. 

Obviously Israel settling on its own lands is not illegal.

And there is no country of Palestine, never has been, so there is no such thing as Palestinian land.

Oh, but in 1948 the UN offered land to the Palestinian Arabs to establish their own state---but they rejected it.

Many of those Arabs decided to settle in Jordan, Syria, or other neighboring countries, as they share the same language, culture and history. It seems they didn't want peace with Israel, and now are kicking themselves in the shin for rejecting the one time offer for their own country.

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yipyip...today..........................This is why the US is the leader of the world, no matter who is sitting in the White House, because the majority of Americans know right from wrong.........LOL!!! Yes, just like they did when the USA illegally invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. How many millions did they kill, and how many were left homeless...Millions.

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opheliajadefeldtToday 01:42 pm JST

yipyip...today..........................This is why the US is the leader of the world, no matter who is sitting in the White House, because the majority of Americans know right from wrong.........LOL!!! Yes, just like they did when the USA illegally invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. How many millions did they kill, and how many were left homeless...Millions.

Nothing illegal about the Afghanistan and Vietnam wars. And nobody is buying your "millions and millions killed" argument.

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The are many laws in many countries about anti-semitism.

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Holocausts did take happen in the past but it doesn't mean granting right to do current genocide. 

No current “genocide”. Stop tossing terms around that don’t apply.

What hold does Israel have over the US?

None. It’s a matter of truth. Why don’t you go all the way and suggest what this “hold” is?

The future is the portion of the planet that rejects the broken ideology of the liberals.

Liberals have a lot to re-examine. As for “the portion of the planet” they are out right illiberal if not despotic.

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The West, Europe, and the US were outspoken about the number of Ukrainian civilians killed by the Russians. The IDF has now killed more Gaza Arabs and only Macron has spoken out calling for a ceasefire.

"According to data published by Statista, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) has confirmed 9,614 civilian deaths during Russia's invasion of Ukraine as of September 2023."

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“Have compassion for all beings, rich and poor alike; each has their suffering. Some suffer too much, others too little. Teach this triple truth to all: A generous heart, kind speech, and a life of service and compassion are the things which renew humanity” - Siddhartha Gautama Buddha

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The IDF has now killed more Gaza Arabs and only Macron has spoken out calling for a ceasefire.

Under no circumstances should Israel call for a ceasefire, but I do think they can pause the fighting for 4 hours a day so that people can leave or that humanitarian aid can enter Gaza.

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You are talking about governments here, not people.

My government doesn't speak for me and doesn't represent me.

Many people hate their governments and are more concerned with survival than international politics.

If my government wished to co-opt me for one of their idiot military crusades, the second word of my response would be 'off'.

So don't mix up the positions of governments and the views of their citizens so lazily.

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Obviously Israel settling on its own lands is not illegal.

Sigh. The West Bank and Gaza are emphatically not Israeli territory. The legal boundaries of Israel were set by the UN in 1948. Israel remained within those boundaries until 1967, however nothing in international law has changed the legal boundaries. Under international law as set fourth in the Geneva Conventions the West Bank and Gaza are occupied lands and not a part of Israel.

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Nothing illegal about the Afghanistan and Vietnam war

The US had every right to declare war on Afghanistan and destroy the Taliban. That the US seemed to lose interest in taking the effort to root out the Taliban and crush it along with (most importantly) establishing democratic institutions in Afghanistan takes nothing away from the original justification for that war. It is a statement of how the US failed to execute. It is also a testament to how you cannot win politically with military force.

As for the US intervention in the Vietnam civil war, it seems some in the US refuse to learn the lessons of history. It was doomed from the start because the South Vietnamese government was hopelessly corrupt and nothing the US did improved the lives of those living in South Vietnam or even reduce the corruption of the South Vietnamese government. Again it is a testament of how a nation cannot win a political contest with military force.

One might also wish to read the biography of Ho Chi Minh. He started out being a huge enthusiast of the US, even worked as a manager in a GM factory for a time. But he wanted the US to take his side in his fight to force the French to grant Vietnam its independence. As France was a WWI ally the US refused. Ho left the US for France where he fell in with communists there and the rest is history. He did beg the US again at the conclusion of WWII to help Vietnam gain independence from France and was again rebuffed. How different history could have been had the US made different decisions in 1918.

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