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Investigation? Review? Biden faces a messaging dilemma

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By CHRIS MEGERIAN and ERIC TUCKER
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White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre speaks during the daily briefing at the White House in Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 18, 2023. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

When Hillary Clinton was running for president, her campaign wanted a gentler way to talk about the criminal investigation into her private email server, so they called it a “security review.”

Now President Joe Biden's team is using similar language when talking about the discovery of classified documents in his Delaware home and former office. Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, tends to describe the situation as a “review” or a “legal process," using the term “investigation” much less frequently.

Any White House or campaign tends to choose its words carefully, but never moreso than when under a prosecutor's scrutiny. It's a rhetorical dance where political figures weigh demands for full disclosure against the political imperative to cast investigations in the least ominous light — not to mention the desire to avoid potential criminal charges.

“Between the media and political concerns of protecting a president by being transparent, and the legal concerns of not speaking when you don’t know everything, there’s got to be a balance,” said Lanny Davis, who served as a legal adviser to then-President Bill Clinton as he faced investigations from independent counsel Ken Starr.

Ian Sams, a spokesperson for the White House counsel's office, acknowledged that tug of war when speaking off-camera to reporters this week — a conversation in which he didn't shy away from using the word “investigation” repeatedly.

“I understand that there’s a tension between protecting and safeguarding the integrity of an ongoing investigation with providing information publicly appropriate with that,” he said.

Biden’s team has faced criticism for its fragmented disclosures about the discoveries of classified documents, occasionally leading to heated exchanges between reporters and Jean-Pierre in the White House briefing room.

She ran into trouble when she suggested last Friday that all documents had been recovered, only to have an additional discovery disclosed over the weekend.

“Are you upset that you came out to this podium on Friday with incomplete and inaccurate information?” one reporter asked Jean-Pierre on Tuesday. "And are you concerned that it affects your credibility up here?”

Jean-Pierre responded by saying that “what I’m concerned about is making sure that we do not politically interfere in the Department of Justice,” describing the situation as an “ongoing process.”

Earlier in the briefing, Jean-Pierre said she was trying to be “prudent” with what information she shares.

“I’m going to let this ongoing review that is happening, this legal process that is happening, and let that process continue under the special counsel,” she said.

There's a long history of administrations deflecting about ongoing probes. Scott McClellan, who represented President George W. Bush's White House, and Mike McCurry, who did the same for President Bill Clinton, frequently punted questions elsewhere rather than provide their own commentary.

Davis also said he doesn't blame the White House for favoring some words over others.

“You use the word ‘review’ instead of ‘investigation.’ I’ve done it hundreds of times on behalf of clients,” he said. “Why do I not use the word ‘investigate?’ Because it’s harsher. It’s an understandable choice to use a softer word.”

Attorney General Merrick Garland last week appointed a special counsel to lead the investigation, a decision that could leave a lingering cloud over the White House as Biden prepares a potential reelection campaign.

Richard Sauber, a lawyer for the president, has not used the word “investigation” in any of his written statements about the case, but he's stressed the White House's willingness to cooperate with the Justice Department. He said Thursday: “We are confident that a thorough review will show that these documents were inadvertently misplaced, and the president and his lawyers acted promptly upon discovery of this mistake.”

There's no single playbook for how to speak about a criminal investigation that reaches into the White House or touches one of its aspirants.

Former President Donald Trump, for instance, spewed vitriol at the FBI and special counsel Robert Mueller during an investigation into whether his 2016 campaign coordinated with Russia, repeatedly deriding it as a “witch hunt" and claiming, falsely, that it was led by “angry Democrats.” Bill Clinton's personal lawyer, David Kendall, blasted Starr for leaks and an “overkill" in his investigation during House impeachment proceedings in 1999.

In some instances, the White House has disclosed or confirmed information about an ongoing criminal probe that a defense lawyer in a lower-profile probe might be less inclined to do. That's what happened in 2004 when the White House acknowledged to the media that President Bush had been interviewed by investigators as part of a special counsel probe into the leak of the covert identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame one year earlier.

“The leaking of classified information is a very serious matter,” McClellan, then White House press secretary, said at the time. “No one wants to get to the bottom of this matter more than the president of the United States."

When it comes to handling legal matters involving the White House, it's "a little more intense — its concerns are a little bit broader than a corporation. It adds a different level of concern,” said Bill Jeffress, a veteran Washington attorney who represented former Bush administration official I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, who was convicted of lying to investigators and obstruction of justice in the Plame leak probe.

Hillary Clinton came under an FBI investigation in 2015 for her use of a private email server as secretary of state. Dogged by questions on the campaign trail about the probe, she and campaign officials took to calling it a “security review” or “security inquiry.” That branding, a seeming attempt to minimize a criminal investigation, drew a mild chiding in 2016 from then-FBI Director James Comey, who said he was unfamiliar with that terminology.

“I don’t know what that means,” Comey told reporters when asked about the “security inquiry” language. "We’re conducting an investigation. That’s the Bureau’s business, that’s what we do. That’s probably all I can say about it.”

In the Biden case, the White House has faced criticism for waiting two months to disclose that the president's lawyers had located some documents with classified markings in a locked closet at the Penn Biden Center in Washington. Officials did not reveal until several days later that even more documents had also been located, this time in Biden's home in Wilmington, Delaware.

Jean-Pierre rejected suggestions that the White House had not been transparent. Even though the public wasn't informed, she said, the Justice Department and National Archives had been notified.

“I want to say that we have been transparent here," she said last week. "That is why the minute that his lawyers found those documents, they reported it.”

Sams told reporters the White House was releasing information as it deemed it “appropriate” and was trying to balance transparency with respect for the Justice Department’s work. He said the White House was trying to be mindful of the “risk” in sharing information that was not complete.

It's unclear if anyone might face criminal charges or if prosecutors can establish that anyone willfully broke the law — a high legal standard. Biden has said he was surprised by the discovery of the documents. And in any event, the Justice Department has long held that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Regardless, questions about the investigation — or the review or the legal process — will not be going away anytime soon.

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Can’t he just say it’s a “witch-hunt”? Blame someone else? /s

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Bob FosseToday  08:21 am JST

Can’t he just say it’s a “witch-hunt”? Blame someone else? /s

There is a theory it was someone else.

People from his own party who realize he is a lost cause and will get crushed in the next election, so they are making way for their next chosen Democrat candidate. And so out of the blue these documents appeared.

Oh, wait--that sounds like a conspiracy.

Of course it was totally blubbering Biden who left classified documents in the reach of Hunter Biden, and who knows who else.

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Seems like the tide is finally turning and the pressure is building towards this radical administration. It’s good to see that the left leaning press is holding this guys feet as well as his administration to the fire and not letting it go.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-justice-departments-double-standards-on-classified-documents-biden-fbi-trump-raid-private-penn-11674166392?mod=djemalertNEWS

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Biden gave them back when asked.....big difference. Trump refused to give them back.

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There is a theory it was someone else.

People from his own party who realize he is a lost cause and will get crushed in the next election, so they are making way for their next chosen Democrat candidate. And so out of the blue these documents appeared.

Oh, wait--that sounds like a conspiracy.

Of course it was totally blubbering Biden who left classified documents in the reach of Hunter Biden, and who knows who else.

What on earth are you going in about? Do you believe this conspiracy theory or not?

If you have information you’d better get it to the FBI lickedysplit.

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If you have information you’d better get it to the FBI lickedysplit.

Hmmm….

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/22/whistleblowers-describe-culture-corruption-fbi-fie/

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Trump had 11,000 documents. Biden 15.

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Trump had 11,000 documents. Biden 15

For the same same accusations

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Trump had "Top Secret" files.

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Trump was warned in late 2021 by his former White House lawyer that it was unlawful to retain the documents, especially classified information;

Tracker: Evidence of Trump’s Knowledge and Involvement in Retaining Mar-a-Lago Documents

https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/

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Trump had "Top Secret" files.

As did Biden.

https://twitter.com/jonathanturley/status/1616506859619291155?s=46&t=6wKag-iE5YMOVqGG3C02-A

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The classification of the Biden files has not been released.

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Bob FosseToday  09:25 am JST

What on earth are you going in about?

You already forgot your original post? You're the one suggesting Biden blame it on someone else, tool.

Do you believe this conspiracy theory or not?*

Your reading skills have diminished as much as Biden's memory. Do you believe it though?

If you have information you’d better get it to the FBI lickedysplit.

Is that your advice? A Brit trying to suggest he knows how the US legal system applies in this situation?

Why the obsession with this anyway? You should be celebrating Andy Murray's latest victory.

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The classification of the Biden files has not been released.

Doesn't matter at this point, what matters is, how did the former VP get his hands on these documents and it seems now the House will work on getting the visitor logs to the Biden residence to see who came in an who, had possible access. The Corvette excuse doesn’t cut it anymore.

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Obama signed an executive order to allow Biden access to documents and some of the retrieved were Obama memos.

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Sit back and relax Joe, everyone except the MAGA-cultists know there's no comparison between you and Trump...

Trump deliberately took (stole) the documents he had - he's even admitted to it...Biden's were misplaced...

Trump took (as far as we know so far) over 300 individual documents, Biden just 20...

Trump took documents labeled "SCI" - out most sensitive information, Biden did not...

Trump refused to cooperate with the National Archives, refused a lawful subpoena, and only acknowledged his stash when found by the FBI....Biden has consistently cooperated with every;one...

Trump LIED IN WRITING saying in a certified letter from his lawyer that all classified had been returned and none remained at Mar-A-Lago - then the FBI found 184 more there two months later...

And showing he's either dumb or demented or both, Trump said last summer that he had declassified all his docs by "thinking about it"...then last week said there were no classified documents, just folders...

So which is it Einstein?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-classified-document-folders-were-cool-keepsake

The big difference when it comes to indictment and prosecution, there is massive evidence that Trump obstructed justice - his certified letter from his lawyer has him dead to rights...Biden has fully cooperated.

So let the Repub kook squad blabber and bluster - it's all for show.

Donald will be joining Weissllberg in the Rikers Island shower line soon enough...

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Obama signed an executive order to allow Biden access to documents and some of the retrieved were Obama memos.

Why won’t Obama comment on it?

That won’t stop or ease or even show proof that is actually what happened.

If that is the case then why doesn’t the DOJ show the documents and statements that Obama did authorize it.

This is public information, Americans have the absolute right to know this.

Nothing have exonerated Biden, this scandal is not going away and the WH knows this and when you have liberals like Don Lemon even wonders and asks how this could happen, you’re in a very bad situation.
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Why won’t Obama comment on it?

email him then

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email him then

As usual, no answer

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bass4funk

email him then

As usual, no answer

That's your dept and I don't work for you so do your own research.

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...you’re in a very bad situation.

Indeed.....

A Florida judge sanctioned former President Donald Trump and one of his attorneys, ordering them to pay nearly $1 million for filing what he said was a bogus lawsuit against Trump's 2016 rival Hillary Clinton and others.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-judge-fines-trump-lawyer-055802610.html

Less than a day after receiving a warning from a federal judge, former President Donald Trump has withdrawn his lawsuit against New York Attorney General Letitia James.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/donald-trump-withdraws-lawsuit-against-150633296.html

Fox Corp Chairman Rupert Murdoch will be questioned under oath on Thursday and Friday in a defamation lawsuit over his network’s coverage of unfounded vote-rigging claims during the 2020 U.S. presidential election. 

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/fox-chief-rupert-murdoch-deposed-111208253.html

ROFL...

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That's your dept

No, that’s not my dept. That weak answer is not satisfying anyone, no one believes that crap. Again, if Obama did do that, there has to be a document record stating that, if that’s true that he released that, at the very bare minimum the public should be able to easily access that information, so far nothing because if it were true the document would be submitted to the public and this scrutiny would be behind him, that never happened.

and I don't work for you so do your own research.

I did and do it all the time.

https://ussanews.com/2023/01/17/report-obama-ethics-chief-tears-into-biden-inexcusable/

https://ussanews.com/2023/01/17/report-obama-ethics-chief-tears-into-biden-inexcusable/

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I don't care if my answer is not satisfying for you. I don't know why Obama has said nothing so like I said try emailing him. it actually works.

I guess nothing will be released until an investigation is complete.

You figure got stuck with the chewing gum on your keys.

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Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, election denier now turned investigation denier.

This investigation has really quieted the Democrats in the US.

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News from the Teaparty

Really?

"Trump knowingly resisted demands by the National Archives for classified records that he appears to have intentionally retained, and he obstructed the government’s efforts to recover them, whereas Biden immediately self-reported and turned the records over to the government at once,’ Shaub, who served as the White House ethics chief from 2013 to 2017, told DailyMail.com."

“But, when comparing the two cases, there’s no getting around the intentionality of Trump’s conduct. So far, there’s no evidence that Biden intentionally retained records or in any way resisted turning them over to the government,” Shaub claimed.

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wallaceToday  10:43 am JST

Shaub, who served as the White House ethics chief from 2013 to 2017, told DailyMail.com."

Dailymail.com ROFL!

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Shaub, who served as the White House ethics chief from 2013 to 2017, told DailyMail.com."

Dailymail.com ROFL!

Post provided by bass4funk. Take it up with him.

Radio static.

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I don't care if my answer is not satisfying for you.

Relax, it has nothing to do with satisfying me, it’s not about me, it’s about Biden, don’t lose sight on that.

I don't know why Obama has said nothing so like I said try emailing him. it actually works.

Well, that’s just a lame statement altogether.

I guess nothing will be released until an investigation is complete.

Most likely

You figure got stuck with the chewing gum on your keys.

Not at all. You have now two men that are charged with essentially the same violation, the DOJ now has to having a two-tier justice system, or one system that applies for essentially the same violation.

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"Trump knowingly resisted demands by the National Archives for classified records that he appears to have intentionally retained, and he obstructed the government’s efforts to recover them,

but the documents never left his Mar-a-Lago estate, they were brought in by the Secret Service in boxes, he complied with the DOJ, for the simple fact that the DOJ contacted him on the documents that they thought were of sensitive material that he shouldn’t have, the other documents that he had in his possession that they thought were not subject to being overly sensitive, he was instructed by the DOJ to have a safe and to secure the files.

This is the part that the left always leave out

whereas Biden immediately self-reported and turned the records over to the government at once,’

which doesn’t explain how these classified documents can be strong over nine different places, unsecured with easy access to any of them in, and with no secret service, and not even a visitors log available, and that seems Biden is unwilling to provide, most people if they’re in that situation would be forthcoming and will provide every document to avoid scrutiny, he hasn’t done that.

That’s the other part the left leaves out

“But, when comparing the two cases, there’s no getting around the intentionality of Trump’s conduct.

Nor Biden’s, so it seems like at this point and all BS aside, neither men will be charged, certainly neither of them will go to prison.

.

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and comedy continues....

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Trump people are ok as long as it's Trump. Trump people would try to impeach Biden over a sardine sandwich.

with essentially the same violation

But for Trump people Trump never did anything bad. As long as it's Trump it's never bad

it’s about Biden

FYI, Biden is President and Trump refused to give the docs while pouting away miserably. Biden did what he was supposed to do and Trump never did.

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There is nothing lame when not knowing why someone else does not react, like Obama. I guess when the investigation is concluded.

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but the documents never left his Mar-a-Lago estate, they were brought in by the Secret Service in boxes, he complied with the DOJ,

That was never stated but why would the Secret Service be humping boxes of documents and how would they even know the contents?

I didn't know that Mar-a-Lago is an extension of the White House.

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I didn't know that Mar-a-Lago is an extension of the White House

Trump people think so

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People like Bill and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden think they are elites above the law.

They should share a cell.

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As president, Trump could declassify anything, and had signed an executive order that the simple act of removing the documents would declassify them.

As VP, Biden could only declassify documents he had himself classified. So far there is no evidence the documents he had in multiple unsecure locations had been declassified.

Former President Donald Trump, for instance, spewed vitriol at the FBI and special counsel Robert Mueller during an investigation into whether his 2016 campaign coordinated with Russia, repeatedly deriding it as a “witch hunt" and claiming, falsely, that it was led by “angry Democrats.”

LOL. That has been proven to be EXACTLY the case. But one might add the FBI, CIA and others into the conspiracy of course.

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There is nothing lame when not knowing why someone else does not react, like Obama.

Why? Because he’s Obama? You mean, we don’t need to know as Americans what are public servants are doing or knowing their conduct, but when it comes to Trump that same standard doesn’t apply to Trump?

Yeah, not anymore.

That was never stated

Yes, it was, there’s even a police report and it’s online.

but why would the Secret Service be humping boxes of documents and how would they even know the contents?

The DOJ knew of the contents of the classified documents, why would they raid Trump’s estate after they tell him to lock and secure the files??

I didn't know that Mar-a-Lago is an extension of the White House.

Neither is Biden’s residence or Corvette for that matter.

I guess when the investigation is concluded.

Then both men should be exonerated in that case.

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I got the email back from Obama.

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release

December 29, 2009

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information

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But the 15 boxes Mr. Trump turned over to the archives in January, nearly a year after he left office, included documents from the C.I.A.,

https://www.justsecurity.org/83034/tracker-evidence-of-trumps-knowledge-and-involvement-in-retaining-mar-a-lago-documents/

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Why? Because he’s Obama? You mean, we don’t need to know as Americans what are public servants are doing or knowing their conduct, but when it comes to Trump that same standard doesn’t apply to Trump?

Pity you didn't apply the same criteria to the laying republican Santos.

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For the same same accusations

Trump refused to give them back, after the FBI search proved he had 100s of classified documents that weren't unclassified, signed a sworn affidavit everything was given back only to find more after the fact.

Biden cooperated from day 1 , gave all the documents back,

Intent is the biggest difference, the courts will see that.

Trumps got far more to worry about than just government documents

did you hear the senate is opening an investigation into Jared for his 2 billion deals with Qatar and the Saudis while he was working in the WH

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the key legal differences bewteen Biden and Trump documents scandal, not your person feelings, facts that matter in court

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofeBcm4bFjg

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> The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release

December 29, 2009

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

Ok, then it’s looking good for both men

Basically the power of the President to declassify information is unlimited. People have made fun of Trump claiming he can't just look at a pile of documents and declare "This is now declassified". Actually he can. The most public form of the power of the president to declassify national secrets was done by Lyndon Johnson. July 25, 1964 Lyndon Johnson was giving a campaign speech and revealed information on the then super secret RS71 Blackbird - which he revealed as the SR71 (he screwed up the model number - LeMay had nothing to do with it - that was cover for Johnson running his mouth). The Airforce about lost its mind when this happened as until this time the existence of the SR71 was a state secret and was not to be revealed by anyone - much less in a political speech to counter claims of being soft on defense.      

Ok, we were both right, my bad. Now Garland can be the side of relief now knowing that both men can classify these documents, mobile via Obama.

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Pity you didn't apply the same criteria to the laying republican Santos.

I don’t care about Santos, he was elected by his peers and his constituents, so he hast to work that out with them, Democrats have lied so many times from Eric Swalwell, to Adam Schiff, to this president and his own personal résumé, once again, the left, they don’t have any room to talk about this guy, when they should clean up the room closet first

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wallaceToday 09:53 am JST

Obama signed an executive order to allow Biden access to documents and some of the retrieved were Obama memos.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information

Where does it say that Biden was allowed to remove classified documents? Granting access is s totally different thing.

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Santos is a blessing for the Democrats. He's a swing vote, so McCarthy desperately needs him, but keeping him leaves an attack vector for the Democrats from here through November 2024.

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Apples to Oranges...

Apples - Biden: "I found these and would like to return them, they were mistakenly packed, I will cooperate fully in any investigation"...

Orange - Trump: "They're mine! You can't have them back! I refuse to cooperate! I have no more classified....wait, I do have more... I declassified it all by "thinking"...but didn't need to since I only stole folders!

Welcome to MAGA-world....

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You already forgot your original post? You're the one suggesting Biden blame it on someone else, tool.

Be polite or say nothing.

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If Trump had immediately cooperated and returned the documents when asked, the matter would have been resolved. There would have been no FBI raid and the story would have disappeared from the news within a week or two.

Biden has cooperated and been pretty transparent. He hasn’t called this a “witch hunt”, claimed he had the right to take anything he wants, or lambasted the DOJ. The reason this is such a big story is because the GOP and their far right media enablers are using this affair (bizarrely) to exonerate Trump and get some payback.

I’m disappointed that the mainstream press, while not being inaccurate in its reporting, is burying the differences between the Biden and Trump cases way down in the story. They want to appear fair, and they want to play up the political drama.

Investigate all you want. I have no problem with that. Someone obviously screwed up, but in the end we’ll know which of these presidents is the real crook. Let justice take its course.

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Apples - Biden: "I found these and would like to return them, they were mistakenly packed, I will cooperate fully in any investigation"...

They're secure in my Corvette, meanwhile and 9 other locations later....

Orange - Trump: "They're mine! You can't have them back! I refuse to cooperate! I have no more classified....wait, I do have more... I declassified it all by "thinking"...but didn't need to since I only stole folders!

DOJ, lock them up and secure them properly, done.

Not to mention: the power of the President to declassify information is unlimited. People have made fun of Trump claiming he can't just look at a pile of documents and declare "This is now declassified". Actually, he can.

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If Trump had immediately cooperated and returned the documents when asked, the matter would have been resolved.

No, it would not have, not with how obsessive the left is with Trump.

There would have been no FBI raid and the story would have disappeared from the news within a week or two. 

If you believe that then I have 3 talk rusted bridges to sell you.

Biden has cooperated and been pretty transparent.

As was Trump.

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2022/08/15/house-senate-lawmakers-request-information-donald-trump-fbi-doj-search

He hasn’t called this a “witch hunt”, claimed he had the right to take anything he wants, or lambasted the DOJ. The reason this is such a big story is because the GOP and their far right media enablers are using this affair (bizarrely) to exonerate Trump and get some payback. 

Not at all, but If you think so it doesn't matter, the Democrats are not in charge.

Investigate all you want. I have no problem with that.

None of us do, they should.

Someone obviously screwed up, but in the end we’ll know which of these presidents is the real crook. Let justice take its course.

Yup!

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Biden's documents were found at two locations. His former Penn office in locked storage and in his garage.

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Now it's either 3 or 9.

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the Democrats are not in charge.

They are in the White House and Senate.

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They are in the White House and Senate.

Not in the House.

https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/biden-ripped-for-no-regrets-claim-over-classified-documents/

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FBI raided Mar-a-Lago. Biden's lawyers went to his house and former office.

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There are still more documents at Mar-a-Lago.

DoJ seeks to question the Trump team that found more classified documents

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/10/donald-trump-justice-department-classified-materials-mar-a-lago

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FBI raided Mar-a-Lago. Biden's lawyers went to his house and former office.

Yes, we know this, so for the same violation, either both men are charged or they won't be, my bet is on they won't be. Even liberal scholars like Turley and Dershowitz don't think either man will be charged, Dershowitz doesn't think the two-tier justice system that Garland thought he had would work.

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There are still more documents at Mar-a-Lago.

DoJ seeks to question the Trump team that found more classified documents

They can and should, go for it, please.

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Trump supporters are trying to drag him to 2024. Not the poster boy anymore.

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Trump supporters are trying to drag him to 2024. Not the poster boy anymore.

He never was, but it's him or RDS, either of them will do just fine.

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Apples - Biden: "I found these and would like to return them, they were mistakenly packed, I will cooperate fully in any investigation"...

meanwhile and 9 other locations later....

Bedminster? Trump Tower? Putin's desk drawer? ROFL...

Orange - Trump: "They're mine! You can't have them back! I refuse to cooperate! I have no more classified....wait, I do have more... I declassified it all by "thinking"...but didn't need to since I only stole folders!

DOJ, lock them up and secure them properly, done.

Trump Lawyer Told Justice Dept. That Classified Material Had Been Returned. The lawyer signed a statement in June that all documents marked as classified and held in boxes in storage at Mar-a-Lago had been given back. The search at the former president’s home on Monday turned up more. An inventory of the material taken from Mr. Trump’s home that was released on Friday showed that F.B.I. agents seized 11 sets of documents during the search with some type of confidential or secret marking on them, including some marked as “classified/TS/SCI” — shorthand for “top secret/sensitive compartmented information.” 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/us/politics/trump-classified-material-fbi.html

Not to mention: the power of the President to declassify information is unlimited. People have made fun of Trump claiming he can't just look at a pile of documents and declare "This is now declassified". Actually, he can.

What did he declassify? He said he took just folders... Explain that please...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-classified-document-folders-were-cool-keepsake

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What did he declassify? He said he took just folders... Explain that please...

the power of the President to declassify information is unlimited. People have made fun of Trump claiming he can't just look at a pile of documents and declare "This is now declassified". Actually, he can.

Now I wasn't there and neither were you and the fact is, Garland doesn't have a case against Trump based on the Constitution.

If you think Trump will swing for this, it wouldn't be the first time you were wrong when it comes to the left trying their darndest to get this man.

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