Majority of Americans say democracy is on the ballot this fall but differ on threat, poll finds

MAGAs: Biden is a threat to Democracy!!!

Reporter: How so?

MAGAs: ...

“I just think he was misguided," Wagner said.

So best case an idiot and worst case a criminal?

Trump voters will not accept any vote rigging.

Succession of the Red states is a real possibility.

There are probably several counties in rural California, Washington and Oregon that will happily join in.

In fact, the only parts Harris will keep is the crime ridden mega cities.

“Biden has tried to erase the student loans, and he’s been told by the courts that it’s unconstitutional to do that,” said Wagner, 85. “He’s weaponized the FBI to get at his political opponents.”

So MAGA's idea of a threat to democracy is helping students get a head start by alleviating the onerous financial burden of the necessity of getting a higher education.

And the fictional weaponized justice system that has been uniquely positioned to persecute the martyr Trump.

Versus instigating an actual insurrection and assault of the legislature and trying to 'find votes' by leaning on election officials.

And numerous quotes about wanting dictatorial powers.

MAGA delusion is powerful.

BanthuToday 07:18 am JST

Succession of the Red states is a real possibility.

This isn't 1860. The army is totally loyal to the Constitution and chain of command and will put bullets into as many goobers as it takes to restore order.

In fact, the only parts Harris will keep is the crime ridden mega cities

On the contrary, all you will have is the vacant land and vacant land doesn't win wars.

After November 2020, how can the MAGA cult and their savior look at themselves in the mirror and deny they're all about communism and still call themselves pro-democracy?

This isn't 1860. The army is totally loyal to the Constitution and chain of command and will put bullets into as many goobers as it takes to restore order.

All indications are that the majority of military personnel are Trump supporters and come from Red states and will probably side with the Succession side.

It's doubtful that US servicemen, who swore and oath to the Constitution (and not to Harris) will turn their weapons on Americans who are fighting for their rights waving the proud American flag.

BanthuToday 07:43 am JST

This isn't 1860. The army is totally loyal to the Constitution and chain of command and will put bullets into as many goobers as it takes to restore order.

All indications are that the majority of military personnel are Trump supporters and come from Red states and will probably side with the Succession side.

It's doubtful that US servicemen, who swore and oath to the Constitution (and not to Harris) will turn their weapons on Americans who are fighting for their rights waving the proud American flag.

Violating a lawful order is still punishable by court martial I'm sure.

Violating a lawful order is still punishable by court martial I'm sure.

The vast majority of US servicemen are proud Americans and they know full well that being ordered to turn their weapons on their flag waving neighbors can not be a "lawful order"

Military Personnel swear an Oath to the Constitution, not to Harris

Harris will try desperately to keep the Red States from Succession but it will fail.

Texas already has it's own State Guard and many Governors will proudly side with Trump once the accusations of cheating get posted all over X.

Succession of the Red states is a real possibility.

No it isn’t.

Succession of the Red states is a real possibility.

No it isn’t.

After the questions surrounding the 2020 election and the assassination attempt on Trump, the people in the Red States will not accept Harris stealing the election from Trump.

The moral thing to do for Harris in that situation is to renounce violence and publicly declare that she won't order the US military to fire on US citizens and that States that want to Succeed are free to do so without violence or bloodshed.

Red will divorce from Blue.

BanthuToday 08:25 am JST

accusations of cheating get posted all over X.

I hope X can arm the goobers with tanks, ships, planes, and nukes.

BanthuToday 09:24 am JST

States that want to Succeed are free to do so without violence or bloodshed.

The Supreme Court says no: https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/29/texas-secession/

Yeah, democracy is putting someone (Tulsi Gabbard) on a terror watch list (Quiet Skies) after they criticized Harris.

Just because a country has 'elections' doesn't mean it's a democracy, especially when you have two same choices foisted upon the country by oligarchs and whose priority is not the people, but another country in West Asia.

I hope X can arm the goobers with tanks, ships, planes, and nukes

So fellow Americans, your neighbors and countrymen are goobers and Harris should order the Military to fight them and all that matters is that Taiwan does reunite or China or that Ukraine doesn't reunite with Russia.

Shouldn't you care more about Americans and less about geopolitical issues thousands of miles away.

No it isn’t.

If by some miracle we have a Kamala Presidency, you could very well see steps taken to go this route. 

Shouldn't you care more about Americans and less about geopolitical issues thousands of miles away.

I agree.

This is all a terribly queer affair of beastly and ghastly fear mongering, makes me ruddy sad.

Too many threats of what if this, what’s if that?

Well mental, like playground stuff, time to grow up and act like adults I say.

If the average US voter genuinely can't tell the difference between the two main candidates, they deserve another four years of Trump and the dismantling of their system of government.

One hopes for the future of world stability that people like "Ernie Wagner from Liberty, New York" are not representative of the typical voter.

All indications are that the majority of military personnel are Trump supporters and come from Red states and will probably side with the Succession side.

Huh? Is that what the far right fake news MSM is telling you?

All indications are that the military is pro Harris.

What was it Trump called the VETS?

Americans who died in the war were suckers and losers.

Confirmed by John Kelly.

So endearing.

When Trump loses the election, will he incite a civil war?

How many MAGA supporters will join him?

Will it start again in the Capitol Building like on Jan 6?

Trump said all hell will be let loose when if he loses.

If the Republicans want to save democracy this November they should make Grandpa Trump do some more thpeecheth and interviewth. That seems to be swinging the polls Trump’s way.

bass4funkToday 12:37 pm JST

Shouldn't you care more about Americans and less about geopolitical issues thousands of miles away.

I agree.

I at least have the basic sense (probably from 6th grade) that Ukraine is a national security priority.

When Trump loses the election, will he incite a civil war?

If Harris loses the election, will there be a civil war?

How many MAGA supporters will join him?

How many libs? BLM, Antifa, and thugs join the Dems

Will it start again in the Capitol Building like on Jan 6?

Will it start like the summer riots of 2020, 3 long months?

Trump said all hell will be let loose when if he loses.

And many liberals said the same if Trump wins.

Trump has made numerous threats and going by Jan 6 he is more than capable of it. Harris hasn't made a single threat or incited people.

I think everyone here is American and everyone just wants to stick it to the right so they say they’re from other places.

Two,party state, nothing changes, don’t get excited. That’s the idea. People think their vote makes a big difference, it’s virtually worthless. Both candidates are at the beck and call of their paymasters.

It’s just to cause division, split the country down the middle. Let’s do it by race, beliefs, whatever is useful.

Nothing meaningful can change without a United nation where the large majority want to change and want to stop being cheated by the elites.

The division is encouraged by both parties and the media, without divisions they would be irrelevant

Basically, all votes are for literally nothing. No massive changes, slight ones but same old same old.

Well designed to continue the status quo and keep things the way they are.

Wallace

Anarchy might be better than the current mess. Millions in poverty, hundreds of millions despising each other because of how they vote.

Its a charade, a facade of a dream that can not and will not ever exists except for a minute few.

Trump has made numerous threats and going by Jan 6 he is more than capable of it. Harris hasn't made a single threat or incited people.

She doesn't have to, her supporters are a different story. No one told Democrat supporters to riot in the summer of 2020 and yet, they did.

Seeing the "intellectual" debate regarding the US politics, I not surprised the US is crashing as Russia is rising.

falseflagsteveToday 01:50 pm JST

Two,party state, nothing changes, don’t get excited. That’s the idea. People think their vote makes a big difference, it’s virtually worthless. Both candidates are at the beck and call of their paymasters.

Two is a lot better than a one party state and the only economic problem with the US is inequality.

Wick's pencilToday 02:08 pm JST

Seeing the "intellectual" debate regarding the US politics, I not surprised the US is crashing as Russia is rising.

Do you think they will surpass Greece in GDP per capita?

Taiwan

Almost the same as a one party state when both follow the same paymasters.

Trump was in power then Biden, what huge changes were made whilst they were in powers? Practically nowt, both daft as a brush just following orders from Mission Control in Sector 5 Neutral Zone.

"Two,party state, nothing changes, don’t get excited. That’s the idea. People think their vote makes a big difference, it’s virtually worthless. Both candidates are at the beck and call of their paymasters.

It’s just to cause division, split the country down the middle. Let’s do it by race, beliefs, whatever is useful.

Nothing meaningful can change without a United nation where the large majority want to change and want to stop being cheated by the elites.

The division is encouraged by both parties and the media, without divisions they would be irrelevant

Basically, all votes are for literally nothing. No massive changes, slight ones but same old same old.

Well designed to continue the status quo and keep things the way they are."@falsefalgsteve

Here, I totally agree with you! No wonder the gatekeepers or media barons are payed millions in contracts while the average Joe they manipulate is payed 40k in a year and that's even generous to say ..

"Democrat Pamela Hanson, 67, of Amery, Wisconsin, said she has grave concerns for the future of democracy in the country if Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump gets elected."

Well, Hanson, 67 a simple question you should ask yourself. Why is still Hillary free after using a hammer and bleach to cover her tracks. Didn't President Trump say and I quote "She has done more good" in America and people should leave her alone? Applying the same logic and what did Joe and Kamala treat Trump? They initiated shoddy investigations not only targeting Trump but all those loyal to him. Now tell us Hudson 67 who is danger to the American democracy?

Huh? Is that what the far right fake news MSM is telling you?

All indications are that the military is pro Harris.

I absolutely believe the leadership in the military is definitely for Kamala, the military complex loves her, the underlings is a very different story.

CephusToday 02:26 pm JST

"Democrat Pamela Hanson, 67, of Amery, Wisconsin, said she has grave concerns for the future of democracy in the country if Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump gets elected."

Well, Hanson, 67 a simple question you should ask yourself. Why is still Hillary free after using a hammer and bleach to cover her tracks. Didn't President Trump say and I quote "She has done more good" in America and people should leave her alone? Applying the same logic and what did Joe and Kamala treat Trump? They initiated shoddy investigations not only targeting Trump but all those loyal to him. Now tell us Hudson 67 who is danger to the American democracy?

Those evil federal prosecutors doing their job I guess?

All indications are that the underlings in the military are extremely pro Harris.

CephusToday 02:14 pm JST

Here, I totally agree with you! No wonder the gatekeepers or media barons are payed millions in contracts while the average Joe they manipulate is payed 40k in a year and that's even generous to say ..

Wouldn't removing the undemocratic Electoral College and Senate that you cling to like grim death have an even bigger impact than going after le evil media that isn't even in government?

falseflagsteveToday 02:13 pm JST

Taiwan

Almost the same as a one party state when both follow the same paymasters.

Trump was in power then Biden, what huge changes were made whilst they were in powers? Practically nowt, both daft as a brush just following orders from Mission Control in Sector 5 Neutral Zone.

A ton if you are paying attention: 99.9% less treason in the oval office, 99.9% less insurrection, building up institutions rather than tearing them down, supporting Ukraine, supporting reproductive freedom, nominating sane justices, infrastructure bill, clean debt ceiling raises, and on and on.

bass4funk

Trump has made numerous threats and going by Jan 6 he is more than capable of it. Harris hasn't made a single threat or incited people.

She doesn't have to, her supporters are a different story. No one told Democrat supporters to riot in the summer of 2020 and yet, they did.

You cannot even prove any of them were Democrats. Nothing to do with governments and Trump was president back then.

Scraping the barrel for matters that don't exist.

All indications are that the underlings in the military are extremely pro Harris.

Good luck with that. ROFL

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/democrats-try-to-tap-into-military-support-as-trump-closes-in-on-gop-nomination

https://www.military.com/daily-news/opinions/2024/05/31/americas-veterans-need-second-term-of-president-trump.html

bass4funk

And many liberals said the same if Trump wins.

Should be easy to name a few than an off-the-cuff remark.

Should be easy to name a few than an off-the-cuff remark.

No one said anything either during the summer riots of 2020 Yes or No? Any names? It just happened. So, it would be safe to say, the same thing could possibly happen either way, and that is based on history.

You cannot even prove any of them were Democrats.

Because Conservatives don't usually riot or loot, LA, Chicago, NYC, PA, sorry, those are not Republican strongholds

Nothing to do with governments and Trump was president back then.

It had everything to do with Trump being President, everything.

Scraping the barrel for matters that don't exist.

Didn't have to scrape anything, it was all right on the surface.