Me and we: Individual rights, common good and coronavirus

And there is also talk of mandatory vaccination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=432fsM-p48M

On May 15, protesters massed at the foot of the Pennsylvania Capitol steps — most of them maskless — for the second time in a month to decry Gov Tom Wolf and demand he “reopen” the state faster. It is one of many states where a vocal minority has criticized virus-related shutdowns for trampling individual rights.

What about the right of the citizenry and general public to live healthily and in peace? These 'protesters' are carrying assault rifles, Nazi flags + Confederate flags. They are intimidating minorities and storming the Michigan statehouse and screaming about their 'rights'? What about public safety rights? These 'protesters' are endangering themselves and those whom they encounter elsewhere. Some of them bring their children to these 'rallies'. That's child endangerment! These 'protesters' are racist gun-toting terrorist scumbags, seething with racial hatred and advocating violence. Our Constitution guarantees the right for peaceful assembly and this is NOT peaceful!

America, along with the rest of the world needs to ride the virus storm out - and these terrorists are only making it WORSE for everyone, slowing the recovery. And Trump encourages this with his tweets and he's grinning.

These 'protesters' are carrying assault rifles, Nazi flags + Confederate flags.

I think they were accusing the authorities of acting like Nazis, rather than in support of the Nazis...

Governments always have an excuse for taking away freedoms, I'm glad some people aren't falling for it. It's unfortunate that so many are so willing to give them up.

Governments always have an excuse for taking away freedoms, I'm glad some people aren't falling for it. It's unfortunate that so many are so willing to give them up.

Bollox... The rights of the majority of people not to be infected or die from a virus MUST outweigh your rights as an individual. Think about other people for a change.

In the U.S., the federal government has always had the power to enforce quarantines any way it sees fit. This is not opinion, but law.

Those powers supersede all other rights for the duration of the quarantine.

Every person's rights end when their actions harm the greater population and always have.

Bollox... The rights of the majority of people not to be infected or die from a virus MUST outweigh your rights as an individual. Think about other people for a change.

Bollox... The rights of the majority of people not to get runover or die MUST outweigh your rights to drive your car. Think about other people for a change...

So stupid...

We have laws and requirements for driving. It isn't a right to drive, it is a privilege. If you kill someone with your driving there are repercussions from fines all the way up to prison time. Lets not forget how much it will cost you to defend yourself against the charges brought.

In that vein, you're arguing that if you infect someone with corona, then there should be consequences faced.

Fines, court costs, lawyers fees. possible imprisonment?

If you wanna swing that way, then I'm entirely on your side and agree that driving a car should equate to passing on the virus. It should come with responsibilities to your fellow man, and consequences.

... but you are allowed to drive, even though you might end up killing someone.

With Covid19, they don't want to take any risks.

In that vein, you're arguing that if you infect someone with corona, then there should be consequences faced.

If someone is negligent (e.g., confirmed infected person spitting on elevator buttons), there certainly should be consequences.

I'm all for giving up cars myself. I already don't drive, and they are not doing anything good for our planet.

Going back to the old 'normal' is ridiculous. If covid has exposed anything, it's that.

The good thing about this all is that people are realizing just how much they consume, and how much of that consumption is in excess.