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I hope this article and many others like it is read by some of the people posting on JT over recent days who habitually dismiss the role of climate change in the current bushfires.

As the article says, climate change is not the only factor at work here. But it is one of the major causes, and it's the one which we can most influence by putting into place policies and practices which limit our carbon emissions - and by electing governments which are committed to doing that. Unlike the current government, which is committed solely to fudging, obfuscating and avoiding doing anything at all.

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Climate change was unheard of when the local Aborigines used to do regular burn offs, this was followed by state governments who for what ever reason stopped or reduced the amount of forests that were burnt off to reduce the fuel build up - it is this reason why these fires have been so intense, add on top the drought has dried out more fuel for the fires to burn. State governments have restricted what farmers and smaller land holders can clear of under brush or high risk trees, we never had these problems prior to Government and expert" interference.

Nope don't tell me about droughts are "climate change", when I was a kid we had water restrictions in Victoria during one drought this was before "climate change" was even a word/s. What are these people gonna say if we get record rain falls - we have been told all sorts of dooms day scenario's were gonna happen all have been proven wrong.

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Coal generates more than 40% of the world's electricity. Australia is the world's largest exporter of coal. China mines more coal than any other country. Australia is the world's third-biggest exporter of CO2 producing fuels. behind only Russia and Saudi Arabia.

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zichi - Coal generates more than 40% of the world's electricity. Australia is the world's largest exporter of coal. China mines more coal than any other country. Australia is the world's third-biggest exporter of CO2 producing fuels. behind only Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Typed on a computer run by coal or gas generated electricity, hey Zichi? Yes, Australia produces a lot of coal. So what? you have electricity in your house, right? Would you be prepared to sit in the dark and freeze your nuts off in protest? I don't think so! that make you another hypocrite.

One major factor contributing to these fires that is not mentioned in this article is, the ideology of the Greens. They stopped controlled burning and the creation of fire breaks and access roads into these large forested areas. This had given the firefighters no chance of controlling these fires and has allowed the fuel to build up on the forest floors creating these mega-fires.

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"When I was a kid " isn't science .

Do people do their own dentistry or operate on themselves or even change the bloody oil in their cars ?

No. They go to experts.

Climate science is still science.

It has become a political issue because of the money behind fossil fuels .

The deniers have to come up with a hundred conspiracy theories to discredit science agencies and scientists.

None of the deniers or denial sites are measuring data using satellites in the atmosphere, measuring atmosphere trapped in arctic ice cores or even measuring sea level rises or temperature increases.

None.

Australian Fire Chiefs sought and were denied a meeting with the Prime Minimal months before these fires got out of control

An IPCC report from 2012 said Australia could expect up to a 30% increase in the number of days listed as " extreme fire danger " by 2020.

And no, its not "greenies stopping cold burns " either.

Just listen to experts.

Meanwhile, the population of iconic wildlife like Koalas has dropped to a level below "endangered "...that's the level they were before the fires.

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The "greenies done it " still ,zombie like, existing in the internet nether world.

Anhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/12/is-there-really-a-green-conspiracy-to-stop-bushfire-hazard-reduction

No green conspiracy.

OK ?

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Yes, Australia produces a lot of coal. So what? you have electricity in your house, right? Would you be prepared to sit in the dark and freeze your nuts off in protest? I don't think so! that make you another hypocrite.

Who's suggesting that we should turn off the coal-fired power and sit in the dark freezing our nuts off in protest? No-one. Not even Greta Thunberg. What's being recommended, by experts, is that we gradually phase out the coal-fired power stations and gradually replace those power sources with renewables in order to reduce our CO2 emissions into the atmosphere. That requires a government that takes the problem seriously and commits serious money to it. That's not this Government.

You don't have to be a zealot to do something. If you don't want to be a hypocrite, look at your own power consumption. Australian power bills tell you how much electricity you're consuming compared to similar households in your neighbourhood. Do you really need to turn on the aircon as soon as things get a bit hot and stuffy? Do you need to have the aircon running in more than one room at a time? What about your heating? How does your personal consumption compare to others? I know that in my house we run about 50% of the average electricity consumption of other 2-person households. I know we use about 50% of the average water. I catch suburban trains and walk most of the time, rarely use the car. How about you?

One major factor contributing to these fires that is not mentioned in this article is, the ideology of the Greens

Some truth to that, but the Greens aren't all-powerful. They've never actually been the Government, either at State or Federal level, so their ability to actually stop anything is limited. The firefighters certainly feel very negative about the Greens. But then the firefighters also tell us that because of the changing climate, the time window for burn-offs has been reduced by about half. Why quote one factor and not the other, especially when it comes from the people who ought to know?

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Many of these fires are being started by kids and even a volunteer firefighter has started several fires in Australia.

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Many of these fires are being started by kids and even a volunteer firefighter has started several fires in Australia.

No, a few of these fires may have been started by kids, and in most major bushfires event there's often a rogue volunteer firefighter (not the same one) who gets charged with deliberate acts of arson.

As of this morning there were about 300 separate fires burning in Australia. The vast majority of them have been started by dry lightning strikes, fallen or faulty power lines or other non-malicious events. To imply otherwise is, presumably, to imply that extreme hot weather, drought and climate change are not the major factor. Untrue.

Here's an interesting article about what does cause bushfires in Australia.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-11-20/bushfire-ignition-source-how-we-know/11701132

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GuruMick:

Climate science is still science.

Yes.

It has become a political issue because of the money behind fossil fuels .

No. It has become a political issue because it is an open-ended excuse to expand government powers and UN powers.

Fossil fuels will be sold as long as there is demand for them, and demand will be there until there is a viable alternative.

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