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Europeans see no quick fix to U.S. ties

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By Luke Baker, Andreas Rinke and Philip Blenkinsop

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Why on earth would anyone want to restore ties with China.

Trump is a horrible president, but if there is anything good coming out of his presidency it has been his insistence on cutting the cord with China. The government of China is horrific and western nations should be doing their utmost to sever all ties, not improve relations with such an insane regime.

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Once sanity returns to D.C., sanity will return to our relations with the rest of the world.

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It's not only Europeans who want to see the back of Trump. On the day of his defeat, there will be national holidays world wide - and the biggest ones will be in the U.S.A. 

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It's not only Europeans who want to see the back of Trump. On the day of his defeat, there will be national holidays world wide - and the biggest ones will be in the U.S.A. 

Until liberals mess everything up and another conservative rescues the nation. So I personally hope that when into his second term European leaders will just have to stomach taking care of themselves and not have one hand in the pocket of the US.

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NATO will heal after the Diaper Dictator is gone.

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bass4funkToday  12:31 pm JST

So I personally hope that when into his second term European leaders will just have to stomach taking care of themselves and not have one hand in the pocket of the US.

Quite right. It's not as if anyone else in the world really needs the US for anything. If you all decide to p*** off back to wherever you came from and take your grubby, tainted money with you, good riddance as far as I'm concerned.

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Every GOP administration in the last 50 years has done serious damage to U.S. foreign relations every time they are in power.

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I think Europe needs to get its own house in order or disband. Having a common currency but no common eurobond is fundamentally flawed. The fact that the UK underwent the pain of leaving the EU shows what a mess it is. Unfortunately, Biden does not have the ballz to take on China like Trump so a Biden presidency will be very bad in that regard.

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Quite right. It's not as if anyone else in the world really needs the US for anything.

Yeah, you do, you need our money, if you didn’t, world leaders wouldn’t ask us why they should pay more for NATO or have a conniption about the US leadership roles, technology, computers, Apple, Windows, TV, I could go on, but no need to. When the US sneezes everyone catches a cold.

If you all decide to p*** off back to wherever you came from and take your grubby, tainted money with you, good riddance as far as I'm concerned.

You want us to return to England?

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I think Europe needs to get its own house in order or disband. Having a common currency but no common eurobond is fundamentally flawed. The fact that the UK underwent the pain of leaving the EU shows what a mess it is. Unfortunately, Biden does not have the ballz to take on China like Trump so a Biden presidency will be very bad in that regard

Bingo!

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bass4funk

Yeah, you do, you need our money, if you didn’t, world leaders wouldn’t ask us why they should pay more for NATO or have a conniption about the US leadership roles, technology, computers, Apple, Windows, TV, I could go on, but no need to. When the US sneezes everyone catches a cold.

America does not spent that much on NATO whose actual budget is about $2 million with the USA paying about 20%.

You confuse national defense spending with NATO contribution. The amount spent by American in Europe is very small when compared to its huge defense budget.

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bass4funkToday  08:57 pm JST

"Quite right. It's not as if anyone else in the world really needs the US for anything."

Yeah, you do, you need our money...

Garbage. There's nothing America currently provides that the rest of the world could either do without or produce for itself.

You want us to return to England?

Why, are you or any of the Americans that you know living overseas actually from England?

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Yeah, you do, you need our money...

Garbage. There's nothing America currently provides that the rest of the world could either do without or produce for itself.

If Trump has done one thing for the rest of the world, it's to expose our systematic flaws in depending on America for anything. Fortunately, he's also started the process of disconnecting America from the rest of the world - it makes it easier for the rest of the world to disconnect from America.

I think we'll see the American economy plummet sink accordingly over the next couple of decades, as companies and countries start to build alternative supply lines, that cut out America, ensuring their stability.

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Garbage. There's nothing America currently provides that the rest of the world could either do without or produce for itself.

“Money,”just wait if Biden does become President and the economy tanks further(and it will) you guys will be in trouble as well.

“Our principal finding after having interviewed 60 officials on both sides of the Atlantic, is that the single greatest challenge NATO faces is the absence of strong principled American presidential leadership for the first time in its history.

Oops....

https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-04-03/america-has-been-nato-s-helm-70-years-can-it-survive-without-us-leadership

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Europe needs America, and America needs Europe. 25th Anniversary of Srebrenica Massacre in 1992 when Clinton was president.

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I meant, "There's nothing America currently provides that the rest of the world couldn't either do without or produce for itself."

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I meant, "There's nothing America currently provides that the rest of the world couldn't either do without or produce for itself."

https://voxeu.org/article/understanding-global-role-us-economy

Because of its size and interconnectedness, developments in the US economy are bound to have important effects around the world. The US has the world’s single largest economy, accounting for almost a quarter of global GDP (at market exchange rates), one-fifth of global FDI, and more than a third of stock market capitalisation. It is the most important export destination for one-fifth of countries around the world. The US dollar is the most widely used currency in global trade and financial transactions, and changes in US monetary policy and investor sentiment play a major role in driving global financing conditions (World Bank 2016).

Now that’s “not” to say we don’t need the world, but the world most “definitely” needs us.

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."...but the world most “definitely” needs us."

For now. However I think that if the world suddenly had to do without America it would find ways to manage. It might be hard but I don't think it would be a terrible disaster.

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Now that’s “not” to say we don’t need the world, but the world most “definitely” needs us.

What you described is the old world, pre-Trump.

Nothing in your quote showed why the world needs the US. It only shows our failures in being intertwining ourselves with the US in the ways you posted.

Trump triggered a disconnect of the US from the rest of the world, and the rest of the world is following his lead by disconnecting from the US.

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StrangerlandToday  09:33 am JST

Nothing in your quote showed why the world needs the US.

Indeed. It's all a lot of meaningless abstractions. We will never be hurting for a lack of American natural resources, finished products, labour or know-how, especially not in Europe. We certainly don't need US military forces everywhere, especially not when they make every situation that they get involved in worse, all the way back to WW1.

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America and Europe need each other especially if they want to reduce trade with China. America and the other NATO countries have kept peace in Europe for 70 years and it also send a warning to the Russian bear of not thinking of crossing the line.

Trump isn't America. He's a president whose terms will end someday.

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Until liberals mess everything up and another conservative rescues the nation.

Yeah but what about that trump, he’s a real loser.

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