Reset to rivalry: China and the West drift further apart

Muslim and Islamic nations should join together in voicing their protests against the clampdowns and genocide of Uighurs in Xinjiang, but they aren’t and instead they praise China. Something is amiss.

We don’t hear a word of criticism from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Malaysia and Indonesia on the human rights violations. Foreign ministers of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) commended China’s efforts “in providing care to its Muslim citizens” and looked “forward to further cooperation between the OIC and the People’s Republic of China” in a resolution drew up at an OIC summit.

Is it because of money and exporting oil to China? The Belt Road Initiative? The move shouldn’t be asking us to stop buying cheap goods from China. What difference will it make if we stop shopping at the 100 yen shop and buying anything made in China meanwhile billion dollar projects are being carried out?

For countries that prohibit charging interests in banking, how can money and cooperation with a country that has torn down mosques, removed Muslim crescents from burial sites, and confiscated prayer mats and Qurans to start with, be justified and be more important than the Islamic faith?

@ quercetum, look at how the Saudis, UAE, Turks, Iran, Pakistan treat their own people and you see the answer. The Turks especially are genocidal thugs, having butchered first the Armenians and more recently the slow motion genocide of the Kurds. The governments of these nations are birds of a feather.

The US, EU, Japan and Australia should impose a 100% trade and travel embargo on China. I would even deny overflight permission to Chinese owned airlines and prohibit Chinese built ships and aircraft from entering ports, airports or territorial waters and airspace (good for South Korean and Japanese shipyards). It would gut their economy overnight. They make a lot of expensive consumer goods, not just cheap housewares but TV, air conditioners, major appliances, computers, power equipment, phones, auto parts plus they are the source of magnets for the world (necessary for electric motors and many other things), etc. Boycott their goods and it will collapse their economy very quickly. When doing so make it clear that if the CCP deposes Xi Jinping, ends the suppression of the Uyghurs and Tibetans, restores the independence of Hong Kong and returns to the better international/trade behavior seen during the administration of his predecessor Hu Jintao then the west will reconsider the embargo.

Trump rocked the boat and now the Chinese have rocked it further.

Especially when we were being hosed by China, now we are being hosed again.

It’s nice to see the president working our alliances for assistance with Beijing instead of mouthing off on n Twitter and ceding power to China on the international stage.

AKA: appeasing and capitulating to them, why would they not be happy? But yeah, the Chinese never respected weakness so....

AKA: appeasing and capitulating to them, why would they not be happy? But yeah, the Chinese never respected weakness so....

Waving the bs flag. Please provide examples of US "capitulation" to China. If this is true it should not be hard for you to do. Be specific and tell us what the US should have done. Tell us why bringing allies on board weakens the US.

I would love to see the USA get along peacefully with every nation on Earth, but dictators have as their prime motivation keeping in power, not getting along with their neighbors. So, I would hope that the US does not overreact to provocations, while also not under reacting.

The US, EU, Japan and Australia should impose a 100% trade and travel embargo on China. I would even deny overflight permission to Chinese owned airlines and prohibit Chinese built ships and aircraft from entering ports, airports or territorial waters and airspace (good for South Korean and Japanese shipyards). It would gut their economy overnight. They make a lot of expensive consumer goods, not just cheap housewares but TV, air conditioners, major appliances, computers, power equipment, phones, auto parts plus they are the source of magnets for the world (necessary for electric motors and many other things), etc. Boycott their goods and it will collapse their economy very quickly. When doing so make it clear that if the CCP deposes Xi Jinping, ends the suppression of the Uyghurs and Tibetans, restores the independence of Hong Kong and returns to the better international/trade behavior seen during the administration of his predecessor Hu Jintao then the west will reconsider the embargo.

BEST suggestion I have heard all week!

The US should strengthen its alliances with the EU and further develop the 5 eyes agreements in terms of more trade and custom control, military and political alliance. If the 5 eyes and the EU team up economically, politically and militarily, China Russia and Iran will be crushed (metaphorically speaking)

Lets make it happen.

Waving the bs flag. Please provide examples of US "capitulation" to China.

No BS just the truth. Fantastic read and on point.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/01/how-will-we-feel-about-that-nice-mr-biden-when-china-next-rattles-the-sabre/

If this is true it should not be hard for you to do.

Never is.

Be specific

Always am.

and tell us what the US should have done. Tell us why bringing allies on board weakens the US.

Exactly what Trump was doing, putting America first, call their bluff as for Europe, they're definitely not going to rock the boat when it comes to China and Russia, this is why dependency is a giant cancer and Trump at least figured that out and the Chinese despised him for that.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/corporate-america-behavior-towards-china-endangers-democracy/