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Tea party may be on verge of becoming a 3rd party

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The tea party must be increasingly isolated and left to do their own extremist thing among themselves, otherwise American government will not be able to function properly. .

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"continued infighting within party ranks and between the House and the Senate over pending issues like passing a budget" . . . proves the Tea Party is purely an obstructionist tool.

Compared to the faction of the GOP-Tea that is anti-science, anti-woman and anti-education, the regular GOP-Tea can always claim they are either helpless victims or working for compromise with crazy people.

It's a nifty trick the GOP-Tea has pulled. One identity is the lunatic brother firing off his shotgun at Thanksgiving Dinner celebrating his 'Tea-Freedom', and the other is the honest lobby hungry politician just looking for bowls of gravy others may have missed.

Collectively, the GOP-Tea is not split by the TP faction. TP serves an important role as makers of diversions and dissolving into the mists of forgotten political skirmishes after yet another racist faux pas or good natured attack on the rights of women or the elderly or young.

Fortunately for the TP division of the GOP-Tea, a long memory isn't required equipment. Nor is any real education. So it really is an all inclusive experience for folks who hate liberals and their media and anything that might have a reading level above NASCAR.

"That may force the mainstream to kick out the tea party so that mainstream Republicans can begin to find acceptable replacement legislation." Reading and having legislative experience can't be replaced with a tri-corn hat and a 'Don't Tread On Me' flag from China for the homestead.

The GOP made their Frankenstein Monster and cloned it from the darkest motivations of society giving it the name 'Tea'. But, the little brat won't stop hanging around with big brother GOP. America, then, gets not three parties but two. One of which is sporting a loud and generally misinformed malignant brain cancer that may just kill the host GOP.

In the end the GOP-Tea is a weakly aligned group of local activists and unemployed jackalope herders with the social skills of a poorly trained three year old and the intellect to match.

There are too many memorable and terrifying ideas these brave patriots have offered but one is worth remembering: Jul 11, 2011, "Pro-Voucher Tea Party Group Admits It Wants To ‘Shut Down Public Schools And Have Private Schools Only"

They can't be said to have small dreams, the Tea Party just wants to close all the schools in America. Just what America needs, another wild idea from the GOP-Tea's brain tumor. Third party? That's how they make out checks, intellectually and otherwise.

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I don't see this happening, Americans would find it near impossible to comprehend a 3 party system, instead causing the mainstream parties to veer wider off to the extremeties. it would be good to see a more than 3 party system however, although 2 is simpler but the current setup is too toxic for a country

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The Libertarian party and Independent party already have an impossible time to establish themselves as a third party. While I would like to see the TP become a viable option over the 2 ruling parties, it wont happen. Its perhaps best as an anti-tax, anti-war, anti big govt movement of which it stands for.

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The GOP made their Frankenstein Monster and cloned it from the darkest motivations of society giving it the name 'Tea'. But, the little brat won't stop hanging around with big brother GOP. America, then, gets not three parties but two. One of which is sporting a loud and generally misinformed malignant brain cancer that may just kill the host GOP.

kcjapan -- don't know if these are your words, or if you borrowed them from somewhere, but, in any case, they are spot on. The 800-pound gorilla, which only some folks have been willing to discuss, is that the TP, as you state "is cloned from the darkest motivations of society", especially rascism. Unfortunately there is still a large segment of the U.S. population that is repulsed by the idea of a black president, and have simply adopted an ideology of opposing anything he favors, regardless of the impact on the country, even its security. And, as your further state, once the Republican Party welcomed them in during the 2010 mid-term elections, the government has been basically unmanageable, since Boehner cannot even get his own caucus to support legislation he has proposed.

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I agree with the above. And I'm hoping the more obstructionist these Tea Partiers act the more they turn off people who think they have even a modicum of reasonable demands when essentially it's a group run by oil company barons to trick racists into fighting their street battles for them and perfectly willing to burn the entire country down in order to reshape into their own image.

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The tea party splitting off into a third party would be one of the best things that could happen to American politics. It would keep all the loonies constricted to one party, and the remaining Republican Party would become a party that could be a serious option for which to vote. As long as the Republicans are tied up with the tea party, only the crazies in society will take them seriously. Most of their votes come from people disenfranchised with the Democrats. A tea party split cold bring in votes for the republicans instead of just against the democrats.

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Wallace formed the American Independence Party to run for President in 1968. It was basically a racist effort to to derail civil rights for blacks. The Tea Party is basically a continuation of this effort. So it is possible that a third party could form our of the republican party. That would kill the republican party as frankly it deserves. Democrats would continue and the opposition party would be the Tea Party run by Ted Cruz.

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Why not? I just hope it can be free of corporate interests. More choices.

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Problem is that TP has significant support (must be a lot of "crazies" across the US) and if they split from GOP then Democrates would become the party of government for the forseeable future.

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The Tea Party should be called the Confederate Party because their existence is informed by the values of the Deep South, which run counter to the rest of America. Zurcronium: you are partially right, racism is only one of the motivations involved here.

And Bruinfan: it got started by corporate interests, by the Koch Brothers. They own what used to be DuPont, Georgia Pacific, and a bunch of other holdings. Their father started the John Birch Society in the '50s. The Tea Party are "useful idiots" for the 1% because the more you can distract poor Whites from economic issues that would have them making common cause with poor People of Color, (Latinos, Blacks, Native Americans, etc.) the more you can split them off from the rest of the economically disadvantaged.

This strategy worked in the Antebellum South. "You may be White Trash, but at least you're White" was the message given to poor Whites by the Planter Class, the 1% of its day in the South. It worked to thwart Reconstruction and empowered racist "Redeemers" struggling against the attempts to integrate the South just after the Civil War. It worked to gain poor White support for Jim Crow, even though poor Whites and poor Blacks were often working as sharecroppers in the same fields for the same people who once owned plantations and armies of slaves. It worked to rile up poor Whites against the Civil Rights Movement.

The Democratic Party was once the party of the Planter Class. Up until FDR, it was pretty much in the same place regarding policy as the Republicans are now. FDR inspired the Southern Democrats shearing off and creating the Dixiecrat bloc. And the Civil Rights Act of 1965 created the final rupture that cleaved the Southern Democrats off of the Democratic Party. Nixon's triumph in 1968 had a lot to do with his skillful use of the "Southern Strategy" to capture the homeless ex-Dems that Wallace was also angling for. The Southern Republicans became more and more powerful, and some of them are found in the strange position of going against the Tea Party.

"Gun Grabbers," "Baby Killers," "Creeping Sharia," and "OBummer" are distractions from the economic issues that could unite everyone who is not wealthy and connected to fight for an equal shake. This is what has built the Tea Party wing of the GOP. It's part of the same handwaving used by the power players of the Deep South to keep the 99% there divided by color instead of united by economic issues.

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Gee, I hope so. Maybe then we'll see some sane Republicans again--which is what Obama would have been in a normal world, the world that prevailed when I was young--in the 60s. I had friends of both the far left and the far right. Yes, believe it or not, those days we did associate with each other. Those days Obama would have been considered a moderate Republican.

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Tea party may be on verge of becoming a 3rd party

FThe "Tea Party" is just movement conservatism. Without movement conservatism, there is no Republican Party.

Conservatism is broken., bad for America, and thankfully, dying out.

Good riddance.

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The tea party splitting off into a third party would be one of the best things that could happen to American politics.

Actually, it would be a very good thing for America because the 2 parties are polarizing and there are people that are more in the middle people that are more for less government, taxation, intrusion etc.

It would keep all the loonies constricted to one party, and the remaining Republican Party would become a party that could be a serious option for which to vote. As long as the Republicans are tied up with the tea party, only the crazies in society will take them seriously.

You have NO idea what you are talking about. If Obama wouldn't have spent so much of our money like a drunken sailor in the first 4 years, the people repeatedly asked and begged the government to stop spending so much, Obama and his minions as usual didn't listen and as a result, the TP was established. If the TP were not a serious force to reckon with, we wouldn't even be talking about this. They just didn't pop up out of thin air.

Most of their votes come from people disenfranchised with the Democrats.

And Republicans as well.

A tea party split cold bring in votes for the republicans instead of just against the democrats.

That might not be a bad thing.

The Tea Party is basically a continuation of this effort.

So what you are implying is that the TP is like the Democratic party??? Trying to keep minorities dependent on the government and trying to teach them that self-independence and self-reliance, Entrepreneurship and financial independence, less government is a bad thing?!!!

The TP is NO WHERE near what the Democratic party stands for, thank God!

So it is possible that a third party could form our of the republican party. That would kill the republican party as frankly it deserves.

Zurc, buddy...that will never happen, rest assured.

Democrats would continue and the opposition party would be the Tea Party run by Ted Cruz.

Sometimes, I really wonder....never mind...lol

Gee, I hope so. Maybe then we'll see some sane Republicans again--which is what Obama would have been in a normal world, the world that prevailed when I was young--in the 60s.

Sane?? Obama would have been considered a Republican? Obama would have NEVER been considered even as a nominee in the 60s with his radical progressive ideas, there is no way, they Democrats and Republicans would have ran away from this loon so fast.

I had friends of both the far left and the far right. Yes, believe it or not, those days we did associate with each other.

This is very true, but both sides are a bit too polarizing, at least the Republicans can admit there is dissension in their ranks and libs and Dems on the other hand don't want to admit they too have dissension within their ranks as well, that is the REAL problem and until they understand that, they will keep making the same mistakes and that will (hopefully) help the TP expand its ranks.

Those days Obama would have been considered a moderate Republican.

Not even close. Kennedy on the other hand, Oh, without a doubt.

FThe "Tea Party" is just movement conservatism.

Guess what, I know it pains you, but they are here to stay, so if you want to vent your anger at anyone, thank your president for helping them get recognition.

Without movement conservatism, there is no Republican Party.

Yup, without liberalism there is NO democratic party.

Conservatism is broken., bad for America, and thankfully, dying out.

Ahhh, they are so broken, so that's why they got the House in 2008, because they are so broken and they got the Senate last Nov. because they are broken? ROFL

Good riddance.

I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, I feel your pain. Clinton defying a subpoena, Obama being shut down for overreaching on his executive powers, it's a bad time to be a Dem, because the courts and congress have to keep reminding them, there are laws, rules and regulations and we don't have and never have had a monarch system, but if they keep it up, we'll have to say good riddance for sure to them. Well, in 606 days for Obama we will, that does give some comfort and relief.

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Good news, have always supported the Eta Party because it puts the GOP into extremist zones of political minefields which puts people off, now splitting the vote with a real schism? Perfect. Democratic govt for decades.

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I hope for a reduction in military spending and an end to the wasteful "War on Drugs" as well.

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a real schism? Perfect. Democratic govt for decades.

The way Obama has been taking the country down the abyss and now Hilary acting as if she's entitled to the presidency is proving to be her downfall. The Dems still can't get it through their heads. They lost the congress and they thought they'd rule forever and it seems like 3 is a definite charm to make them humble.

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