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Why Beijing may want to keep Trump in the White House

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China pretends to want multilateralism. What they want is Sinocentrism. "International cooperation" in Xi Jinping's eye is China making the rules and every other nation genuflecting to Beijing. Sure China doesn't want a cold war. They want it to come to them easily. Tough luck. Xi has made enemies of many nations and many within China.

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Xi is just another villain. It doesn't matter who wins. The CCP will keep on creating havoc in the region until there are militarized conflicts. China has only one vision, world subjugation, by any means possible...

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China pretends to want multilateralism. What they want is Sinocentrism. "International cooperation" in Xi Jinping's eye is China making the rules and every other nation genuflecting to Beijing. Sure China doesn't want a cold war. They want it to come to them easily. Tough luck. Xi has made enemies of many nations and many within China.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I concur 100%

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Biden would sell the country down the river, that’s just a fact especially what we now are learning and fast.

How many Chinese bank accounts does Biden have?

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Nothing positive of China ever said. Chinese side of the story is never presented. China is again portrayed as the bad guy while America as the good guy.

I’ve defended Chinese people from ignorant bigots on this site who’ve clearly never spent any time in the country.

Defending the CCP is more difficult.

Knock yourself out.

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Serrano, in the US government one cannot qualify for a security clearance if they have any overseas property or bank accounts. That prohibition applies to property and bank accounts in friendly nations and allies as well, even Canada. Foreign national wives can make obtaining a security clearance very difficult. Their families abroad can be subject to harassment and arrest at home and that can become a means for a foreign power to coerce the family member in the US. One must report in detail all foreign contacts, family or non-family, in order to obtain and keep one's security clearance. Even family members with dual citizenship living in Canada are subject to reporting requirements. A relationship outside of one's marriage is enough to get one's security clearance pulled. Anything that can expose the member to foreign blackmail or coercion is a problem for one's security clearance. Yet the current US President violates basically all of this.

Someone is going to have to show us documented proof that Mr. Biden has any foreign bank accounts or received payments from foreign entities while Vice President for me to believe it. No one has so far so the claims to that effect are nothing but heresay and innuendo.

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Interesting seeing some posters here pushing the CCP propaganda that there are no detention camps in Xinjiang. I wonder what their motivation is.

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Everybody who hates America wants Trump to win. We all knew that.

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Why? Tell me why. No, SHOW me why? I want to see with my own eyes WHAT exactly have the CCP done?

Interned a million Uighurs in 85 detention camps. Trump said this was 'exactly the right thing to do'.

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@Serrano, ask yourself does how many Chinese bank accounts he has matter. The answer is simple, Trump is a "BUSINESS MAN" and don't play on what the media wants you to think.

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Joe has a lot on his plate preliminary FBI reports 

Oh, so you trust the FBI now. Two weeks ago you said you didn’t and had no faith in them. Okay.

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With apologies to Charles Aznavour:

Xi: maybe the ace Trump can't forget,

A trace of pleasure or regret,

Maybe his treasure or

The price he has to pay.

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Beijing may want to keep Trump in the White House

That's not what Nancy Pelosi says, she says Beijing wants Biden.

The caption below the AP photo of that mural of Xi and Trump doesn't say where it is, but guaranteed it's not in Beijing or anywhere in China. Would be interesting to see how fast it would be painted over if someone dared paint this mural in Beijing or anywhere in China.

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Because American global influence has waned so much under Trump, emboldening Chinese and Russian foreign influence. China can afford to pay the US a couple of extra billion USD in tariffs because they stand to can so much more from more powerful foreign policy.

China is not paying the tariffs. US consumers are. And if China really gets emboldened, they would've done a lot more than they are doing now, which is almost nothing. Just stand like idiots and allow these rabid dogs to attack them.

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Trump's trade wars with China, Canada, and Europe, have all been lose-lose propositions. Unlike Putin's Russia, China gains from a USA led by a sane president.

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What about . . . .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/16/trumps-chinese-virus-slur-makes-some-people-blame-chinese-americans-others-blame-trump/

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/22/915630892/in-u-n-speech-trump-blasts-china-and-who-blaming-them-for-spread-of-covid-19

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How many Chinese bank accounts does Biden have?

Unlike Trump, Biden never had any legitimate business in China. Oh my.

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The Muslims of Xinjiang fought on the side of the KMTs predecessor, the Revolutionary Alliance and many top Muslim warriors became Generals in the KMT. They fought as KMT officers and soldiers against the Soviet invasion of Xinjiang circa 1934, fought the Japanese under the Nationalist flag, and fought the Communists during the 1949 revolution. Muslim KMT forces were the last hold outs on mainland China against the Communists. For that they now pay a price as Xi in particular seeks to exterminate their culture and language.

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Biden would sell the country down the river, that’s just a fact especially what we now are learning and fast.

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Defending the CCP is more difficult.

Why? Tell me why. No, SHOW me why? I want to see with my own eyes WHAT exactly have the CCP done? Show it to me? Did China not do an amazing job with Covid? Did they not inform the world? Do they not follow every international institution? Tell me what exactly do i have to hate China and their government for? Sure, they're not exactly Libertarians, but i am asking specifically about the whole pandemic period. Show me, Jizimo, what have they done wrong? They are literally that kid that sits at the back of the class and everybody spits and throws garbage at them, then the school teachers walks in and accuses the bullied kid of being evil? This is just absolutely beyond unbelievable. But this is the power of the most powerful entity on earth - the English propaganda machine. The US govt. literally sponsors separatism in China, just recently was reported that they also fund anti-Chinese propaganda ads in Africa, they go around the world banning and attacking every successful Chinese company - Huawei, ZTE, Ant Group, Tik Tok etc., they spread easily verifiable lies and disinformation against them 24/7. TELL ME what is the Chinese government DOING WRONG?? Tell me. All i see is this vicious rabid dog America attacking China and trying to annihilate them. And yes, you probably don't see it if you only watch English media.

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Unlike Putin's Russia, China gains from a USA led by a sane president.

Yes.

https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/3011858/how-chinas-rise-helping-unite-america-behind-donald-trumps

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Joe has a lot on his plate preliminary FBI reports as well as the text messages from Hunter’s mails from his notes, laptop and the authenticity was verified by Bobulinski. What on Earth of a deal did Biden make with the Chinese?

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Interned a million Uighurs in 85 detention camps. Trump said this was 'exactly the right thing to do'.

Dear god. Despite the mountain of evidence debunking this outrageously FALSE claim, low-IQ people keep repeating it over and over again. There are NO detention camps in Xinjiang. There are terrorists being detained in re-education facilities. This has nothing to do with being Muslim or Han. China had a massive terrorism problem, which they dealt with by monitoring Xinjiang and arresting anyone who is either part of, or linked, or suspected of being linked to a terrorist organization called East Turkemistan Islamic Movement. That terrorist group has killed thousands of people across China. This is THEIR war of terror. The media unbelievably just ignores all of that, and tell you that China detains muslims leaving people with the impression that they are detaining them just for the sake of being a muslim. This is literally like saying America is killing muslims in the Middle East. Would that be a fair thing to say? Would it be fair to say America is killing Muslims without providing the context? If you have a better idea how should China deal with a terrorist organization inside their borders, please contact the CCP and let them know. I can assure you that if there was a terrorist organization inside American borders, they wouldn't bother detaining them in re-education facilities and then releasing them, they would kill them cold blood and nobody in American society would blink an eye. And by the way, it's not 1 million. That number literally made up after an interview with 4 Uyghurs by an NGO funded by the US state department and a bunch of weapon manufacturers. The irony is that US has killed far more civilian Uyghurs in Afghanistan, and imprisoned far more of them in Guantanamo than China has done, but of course non of that is talked about. The media literally control the perception of reality, it's unbelievably scary and somebody needs to hold them accountable. They are getting away with a murder. A murder of reality.

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Interned a million Uighurs in 85 detention camps. Trump said this was 'exactly the right thing to do'.

Dear god. Despite the mountain of evidence debunking this outrageously FALSE claim, low-IQ people keep repeating it over and over again. There are NO detention camps in Xinjiang. There are terrorists being detained in re-education facilities. This has nothing to do with being Muslim or Han. China had a massive terrorism problem, which they dealt with by monitoring Xinjiang and arresting anyone who is either part of, or linked, or suspected of being linked to a terrorist organization called East Turkemistan Islamic Movement. That terrorist group has killed thousands of people across China. This is THEIR war of terror. The media unbelievably just ignores all of that, and tell you that China detains muslims leaving people with the impression that they are detaining them just for the sake of being a muslim. This is literally like saying America is killing muslims in the Middle East. Would that be a fair thing to say? Would it be fair to say America is killing Muslims without providing the context? If you have a better idea how should China deal with a terrorist organization inside their borders, please contact the CCP and let them know. I can assure you that if there was a terrorist organization inside American borders, they wouldn't bother detaining them in re-education facilities and then releasing them, they would kill them cold blood and nobody in American society would blink an eye. And by the way, it's not 1 million. That number literally made up after an interview with 4 Uyghurs by an NGO funded by the US state department and a bunch of weapon manufacturers. The irony is that US has killed far more civilian Uyghurs in Afghanistan, and imprisoned far more of them in Guantanamo than China has done, but of course non of that is talked about. The media literally control the perception of reality, it's unbelievably scary and somebody needs to hold them accountable. They are getting away with a murder. A murder of reality.

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Interned a million Uighurs in 85 detention camps. Trump said this was 'exactly the right thing to do'.

Dear god. Despite the mountain of evidence debunking this outrageously FALSE claim, low-IQ people keep repeating it over and over again. There are NO detention camps in Xinjiang. There are terrorists being detained in re-education facilities. This has nothing to do with being Muslim or Han. China had a massive terrorism problem, which they dealt with by monitoring Xinjiang and arresting anyone who is either part of, or linked, or suspected of being linked to a terrorist organization called East Turkemistan Islamic Movement. That terrorist group has killed thousands of people across China. This is THEIR war of terror. The media unbelievably just ignores all of that, and tell you that China detains muslims leaving people with the impression that they are detaining them just for the sake of being a muslim. This is literally like saying America is killing muslims in the Middle East. Would that be a fair thing to say? Would it be fair to say America is killing Muslims without providing the context? If you have a better idea how should China deal with a terrorist organization inside their borders, please contact the CCP and let them know. I can assure you that if there was a terrorist organization inside American borders, they wouldn't bother detaining them in re-education facilities and then releasing them, they would kill them cold blood and nobody in American society would blink an eye. And by the way, it's not 1 million. That number literally made up after an interview with 4 Uyghurs by an NGO funded by the US state department and a bunch of weapon manufacturers. The irony is that US has killed far more civilian Uyghurs in Afghanistan, and imprisoned far more of them in Guantanamo than China has done, but of course non of that is talked about. The media literally control the perception of reality, it's unbelievably scary and somebody needs to hold them accountable. They are getting away with a murder. A murder of reality.

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It's common knowledge both China and Russia want the dunce to remain in office.

It's common knowledge, but it's not common sense.

Trump is started a trade war on China, his administration is currently engaged in the most ruthless disinformation campaign against China anyone has ever seen since Nazi Germany and their campaign against Jews, Pompeo's twitter account is on a 24/7 loop just spewing hatred and lies against China, goes around the world and bullies countries to ban Huawei and stop doing business with China. ZTE was banned. They tried to ban Tik Tok. Now they are trying to ban Ant Group just for being a successful Chinese company. Any Chinese company that becomes successful becomes a target of US harassment, but yeah, definitely China wants Trump to win.

This is some next level twilight. Brainwashing of people in the 21st century is unbelievable. I truly feel sorry for people like you.

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Another anti-Chinese article by the US propaganda machine. Same old narrative over and over again. Nothing positive of China ever said. Chinese side of the story is never presented. China is again portrayed as the bad guy while America as the good guy. Any information positive of China is forbidden. Any info negative of US is not allowed. Everything US does to China like going after their companies in a ruthless way, spreading disinformation against them, all that is ignored and not mentioned. Unbelievable. Media outlets like AFP, AP and Reuters must be held accountable for their propaganda. This is just a pure evil propaganda machine.

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