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Why the pronouns used for God matterBy Annie Selak WASHINGTON
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Absolute claptrap, I am not religious at all, but to pretend that history includes God as "she/her" is straining the imagination. Additionally, because a fairytale said that there is a God and that he is male somehow makes males God is simply "might is right" thinking - stone age thinking, nothing to do with God (if there be one which I sincerely doubt).
The Church of England has become infested with the toxic influence of identity gender politics.
So much so any spiritual meaning relating to the study of the nature of God and religious belief is meaningless.
The preposterous preoccupation from the use of pronouns in the teaching of spiritual belief is a case in question.
Feminist theologian Mary Daly famously stated, “If God is male, then the male is God.” In other words, referring to God only as the male gender has a significant social impact that can exalt one gender at the expense of others.
Referring to God only as male can also limit one’s theological imagination: Using many pronouns for God emphasizes that God is mystery, beyond all human categories.
Bonkers, Mary Daly purportedly a Catholic is drenched in all aspects of the political environment of disestablishment in context of exploring the gender-neutral terms for God.
Is it also any wonder the Church of England is becoming an irrelevance?
Has been close to an irrelevance for quite a while. I can remember a former Archbishop of Canterbury describing it as an elderly relative mumbling away in the corner at Christmas and the family just nodding politely.
Isn’t the definition of God as something like a male mammal paper and crayon Christianity anyway? I though the more sophisticated Christians see their god as something like a manifestation of pure knowledge, wisdom and goodness which humans can’t comprehend. Sounds like gibberish to me and as nonsensical as him having a beard and broader shoulders.
Wouldn’t ‘it’ be a better word or is that rude?
God is a transexual. Everyone knows that.
Our Lord taught us to pray to 'Our Father'. Case closed.
Oh, so God is non-binary then? Cool ...
I wonder why these people who claim to be so close to God that they know what God wants and communicate with God daily, don't just ask God for their pronoun? That would be the easiest thing to do.
It's almost as if the concept was made up, and people project their own idea of it onto the concept. Ya think?
God is not man or woman since it is claimed he created the first two. God taught nothing to no one.
We have to distinguish between the religions here. In Islam, for example, Allah is utterly unknowable. From the time of Al Ghazali it has been considered almost blasphemous to presume that we know anything about him. In Christianity, we have the concept of revelation, where God reveals himself to us. We believe, for example that God is good, God is love, etc. We also (unlike the Muslims) believe that God cannot contradict himself. We also believe that God created us 'in his own image and likeness' (Genesis), which is blasphemy to the Muslim. If we are created in God's likeness, it thus follows that we can understand his nature to some degree. The ultimate revelation was, of course, in the person of Jesus Christ, who dwelt among us and taught us.
Like I said then. God is a transexual or nonbinary.
Jimizo, in my humble opinion and stated with respect, I suggest Mary Daly to be, first and foremost a radical feminist, I feel that Mary Daly theological teaching rails against women's christianity.in the Catholic faith.
However that is a opinion.
Faith sometimes all humanity has left in the face of suffering of war.
Faith, our religious beliefs, mixed, combined with politics can never reconcile our own personal political views with the teachings of Christ in respect with the modern day Church.
Both should and remain separate, secular, not ecclesiastical, society never to be bound by any religious rule.
How would you know this?
Isn’t there also the belief that Jesus had to dumb down his message? He was speaking to illiterate, superstitious and uneducated people. As one scholar noted, the best place to appear would have been China which was probably the most sophisticated and literate civilization of the time.
Telling them that god was a manifestation of whatever wouldn’t have been comprehensible. It still isn’t.
Similarly, he told people that he cast out evil spirits when he was actually curing mental illness. Jesus obviously knew they were mentally ill and not possessed, but that wouldn’t have registered with the people.
Paper and crayon ideas for people with primitive ideas.
Fair point but you did hint that you don’t see her as a real (? ) Catholic. If this is wrong, I apologize.
I was baptized a Catholic ( my mum did it to keep her parents happy and my father didn’t care ) but I was told I’ll always be a Catholic despite being an atheist and breaking many of the rules. You can’t leave this club.
Maybe she’s a ‘bad’ Catholic? Who gets to judge?
Ask the pope?
I too was baptised a Catholic because that church was nearer. But unless you are also later confirmed then you ain't a real Catholic. I wasn't confirmed.
I was told that baptism sealed the deal by priests at my school. You can’t become one of those ‘Proddies’ as one man of the cloth told us.
A quick look Catholic websites shows some ambiguity on this point.
Anyway, who gets to boot me out?
Jimizo, I have not taken the Catholic communion, since the church refused to acknowledge the frequency of abuse to children amongst the Catholic clergy.
You are correct I really don’t recognise Mary Daly as a Catholic. However, that is a biased view.
The distraction created from insistence of the use of pronouns, and the popular political necessity to legislate/enact this insistence in schools, civil service, its should not be a surprise that church would be required to follow suit.
If a teacher fails to comply to the teaching around gender inclusive pronouns, soon to be introduced in elementary schools, such action could end careers.
God is imaginary so you can make him or her any gender you wish.
Or maybe God is the Sun or a mountain or a star in the sky.
Whatever happened to the wise promulgation,'Never mention religion or politics in polite conversation'?
I also admire the French for avoiding money in civilised discourse.
It is one faith that defines how we pray for guidance from divinity.
There are many faiths.
However, never should sanctitude be forced either politically or through education.
Politicalization, through the adoption of gender pronouns associated within society should/must never be correlated within our own beliefs, faith.