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Will attacks on Walz's military service stick like they did to Kerry 20 years ago?

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By DAN MERICA

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Not if Walz is smart and sticks to condemning Donald "Suckers and Losers" Trump.

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They've had members of his unit on cable news for a while now. Even the guys that are staunch republicans who don't vote for Walz called the attacks BS. He was the highest ranking enlisted person in his battalion. That's hundreds of soldiers and the GOP can't find SINGLE ONE to say a bad thing about his service.

He put in his notice many months before the unit was officially called up, which he had to do in order to comply with the Hatch Act. He was under no obligation to stay, the military had no issue meeting recruitment goals at the time, and none of the people smearing him ever served with him. Until they can put a guy up from his unit to say something it's a BS attack and anyone repeating it should be ashamed of themselves.

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quote: the public began to question the candidate's ability to handle national security matters.

Against Trump's ability? Seriously? Pfft.

This reliance on money and manipulative propaganda. Are American voters happy to be treated like backward children at each election?

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20 years is standard for law enforcement and military careers, although it is more common to serve a much shorter time, like JD Vance. 20 years by Walz compared to much less than his opponent ND Vance is bad for which one of them?

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vance was in for 4 years and wrote stories for public relations. he was only an e-4 when separating while above average people would be an e-5.

either way, it’s hypocritical of those who never put on a uniform to attack those who did.

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Walz has never lied about his military service, and never glossed it up to be some thing it was not, he has always been truthful about it.

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Kerry was controversial because he disavowed his Vietnam service before later embracing it, which angered a lot of Vietnam veterans who felt betrayed.

Walz has continued to claim the rank of command sergeant major, to which the military says he is not entitled. In the past, he has implied and chosen not to correct interviewers claiming that he served in Afghanistan, where he never served. He’s suggested that he deployed to Iraq, when his actual deployment was to Italy. He resigned his post to enter politics just as his unit was deployed to Iraq.

There are a lot more overt falsehoods from Walz. The voting bloc of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans is also much smaller and less cohesive than that of Vietnam vets, so the kites may not end up having as much impact.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Walz spent time in China and has praised China on many occasions. He travelled to China 30 times and also went to China for his honeymoon.

He has a lot to answer for, not necessarily for his military service or lack thereof but definitely for his soft corner for China.

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Not if Walz is smart and sticks to condemning Donald "Suckers and Losers" Trump.

I disagree, I think they can and possibly will, if the men he served with make a huge dustup, it can be very problematic politically for him.

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Sad. Stolen valor.

Give Walz his walking papers.

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Didn't someone fake a heel injury to avoid going to Vietnam? A sever case of "bone spurs"

However, military service or the lack of should not be a deciding factor for anything.

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Will attacks on Walz's military service stick like they did to Kerry 20 years ago?

No.

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Sad. Stolen valor.

There was no stolen valor, however much you would like there to be.

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There was no stolen valor, however much you would like there to be.

Totally stolen valor.

Fact.

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Totally stolen valor.

Fact.

Bold move cotton, you have any facts to actually back that up? Can you name a single soldier, out of the HUNDREDS who served with him, that are saying that?

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True, Mr. Trump is feckless, as is his VP candidate, but the one question to ask is: if you are disparaging Mr. Walz, have you ever been in the military? If not, you cannot know what it's like, nor have you the right to judge Mr. Walz. Mrs. Trump and Vance. . .any service time. I've had it. I'm proud of it.

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stolen valor is claiming to be awarded or wearing unearned decorations.

using the term otherwise is extraordinary ignorance.

he did attain the rank of e-9 (cms or sergeant major) and was in that cms slot. yes, he retired as e-8 because he hadn’t finished the cms coursework. that is not stolen valor.

what i saw in that old video was a slip of the tongue in a heated speech. he should have said we instead of i.

you guys are building mountains out of molehills.

the timeline was:

promoted to e-9 in 2004.

he submitted paperwork to run for congress in february, 2005.

unit notified in march, 2005 that it may be called up within 2 years.

he retired to run for congress in may, 2005, since it’s hard to be in two places at once, giving time for a new unit csm to fill the role.

then in july, 2005, the unit was called up earlier, but wasn’t deployed until march, 2006, 10 months later.

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stolen valor is claiming to be awarded or wearing unearned decorations.

using the term otherwise is extraordinary ignorance.

Wrong. The term colloquially lacks a uniform definition.

Claiming to have retired with a rank that one does not hold is stolen valor.

Misstating one's military record numerous times and not correcting it is stolen valor.

Walz implying that he had served in combat is definitely stolen valor, especially to anyone who actually has served in combat, like I have.

In a tv program the host referred to Walz as having served in Afghanistan---Walz nodded his head. But he never served in Afghanistan--he was stationed in Italy the whole time overseas.

Stolen valor.

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zibalaToday 01:08 am JST

What's worse than stolen valor is the negative valor and treason of Trump.

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Will attacks on Walz's military service stick like they did to Kerry 20 years ago?

Yes

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bass4funkToday 01:10 am JST

Will attacks on Walz's military service stick like they did to Kerry 20 years ago?

Yes

The MAGA ticket is not led by a humble idiot this time but a full on JA.

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about 360 navy seals were in vietnam in the 10 years of the war.

i’ve met thousands of them so far.

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especially to anyone who actually has served in combat, like I have.

i don’t believe i’ve ever said anything here about combat experience, but my generation doesn’t need to be patted on the head about it all the time. i don’t have that much heartburn about walz.

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