Airlines slam 'ineffective' COVID tests for China travelers

Is there any way to downvote the article as a whole?

How come supposedly well-vaccinated countries "including the United States, Canada, Japan and France" are implementing these measures?

How come supposedly well-vaccinated countries "including the United States, Canada, Japan and France" are implementing these measures?

Because China cannot be trusted. I'd put a 14 day quarantine, local US-based testing and mandate western vaccination, at the traveler's expense, onto the price of travel too.

Wanna bet there are already underground businesses in China providing fake test forms?

Let's see, Shanghia has over 1M people with COVID. We don't mind taking reasonable chances with 100% random changes of catching COVID out in the world, but on a modern airline, 20-30% of the air is recirculated in the cabin, ensuring everyone gets exposed. We don't need 250-350 exposed passengers mixing into the local populations. You know, just like China said for the last 2+ yrs.

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Because China cannot be trusted. I'd put a 14 day quarantine, local US-based testing and mandate western vaccination, at the traveler's expense, onto the price of travel too.

So, the vaccines are not doing their job in those countries.

How come supposedly well-vaccinated countries "including the United States, Canada, Japan and France" are implementing these measures?

I know you know why.

How come China screwed the pooch for 2.5 whole years and is not releasing reliable data on the covid mess they have made?

So, the vaccines are not doing their job in those countries.

How come these countries are open and back to normal?

Plenty of "how comes" to go around.

So many questions but no answers.

We didn't need to lockdown at all.

Tell that to the 2million dead Americans. Then look at countries like Canada that took reasonable measures, kept their deaths low (unlike the Americans) and didn't need to shut down their country.

Countries that took intelligent science-based positions on lockdowns did better during the pandemic. Fact.

We didn't need to lockdown at all.

The best experts on public health clearly disagree with you, what objective arguments do you have for your claim? obviously this is not something you can claim authority so you should at least reference someone that can and can make a point about the lack of effect of lockdowns, else you would be as wrong as those that predicted all those emergency measures would continue indefinitely even after the risk from the infection was reduced.

The World Health Organization (WHO) on Wednesday said there was no evidence of new variants in China, despite the surge in cases. However, experts warned this could be due to a lack of testing and data. 

The WHO has also said that China was under-representing the true impact of Covid in the country - in part due to what they said was a "too narrow" definition of a Covid death. 

Beijing has confirmed only 22 deaths since December, which is at odds with data from analysts.

China covid deaths 1 million. China is no longer counting the deaths.

https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p2

250 million Chinese with covid. Families are burning their dead in the streets because the crematoriums are overloaded and the morgues are full. The hospital corridors are full of covid patients. President Xi admitted he got it wrong with his zero covid policy.

250 million Chinese with covid. Families are burning their dead in the streets because the crematoriums are overloaded and the morgues are full. The hospital corridors are full of covid patients. President Xi admitted he got it wrong with his zero covid policy.

Indeed. Disgraceful news at this stage of the game

Our zero covid hard-lock fanboy is a shadow of his former self.

Haven't read a "well done China" from him in over a month.

250 million Chinese with covid

Even if all those people were under 60yo and recently vaccinated/boosted this would still result in 250,000 deaths, since in China this is obviously not the case it becomes reasonable to expect the millions of deaths already predicted by the international health experts. It would be impossible to say China has done anything well about this disaster.

Just think of it as a preventive measure, if nothing is done; cases goes up, people die, health care is taxed, cats out of the bag who would be to blame? No high hopes of great effectiveness of the measures but you can't put the cat back into the bag after the fact.

Just to note every cohort (practically the whole cohort) that I know that went to HK/china has tested positive, and it's not like they were lax in their measures.

Any country that is well-vaccinated should not be concerned about these travelers from China. The vaccines would be more protective than some test.

At the same time, it is interesting that India is testing travelers from Japan.

Which leads us back to wondering how safe we are just being in Japan.

I’d rather NOT catch Covid on a flight.

https://youtu.be/iFjSI1iQ6D4 says that 50% of people arriving on Chinese flights have COVID. The CCP has ended their testing. Buying covid results just prior to getting on a plane is common. If countries want allow flights from China, they need to have testing and quarantine facilities on landing. The risks are too great.

Chinese Crematoriums are running 24/7 again. UK think-thank believes there are 9,000 daily COVID deaths in China. Inside China, funeral homes are refusing any covid deaths, so to get cremated, the deaths have to point at any other reason, except COVID.

.15% mortality, so below 1% leads to 750K deaths in China. Millions inside China have already died, but will never be counted as COVID due to CCP policies and that saving face is more important than factual data to the CCP.

I could understand if these tests were being given to travelers from countries with high infection rates like Japan.