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Finnair launches A330 service on Osaka route

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Finnair launched a service from Helsinki to Osaka on July 7, using the airline's new Airbus A330 aircraft. With New York, Delhi and Nagoya, the addition of Osaka brings the total of Finnair's A330 routes to four.

The new Airbus aircraft are part of Finnair's fleet renewal process for long-haul traffic. By the end of this year the company will have taken delivery of five new Airbus A330s. The next plane arrives in November.

The Airbus planes are the first in the fleet to include the new, lighter passenger cabin interior design and their technically advanced features represent a significant improvement in passenger comfort.

All passengers have access to their own video monitors with a diverse choice of entertainment, communications and text-message sending option. Fuel efficiency of the aircraft is also the best available.

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Finnair is a great airline and the a 330 is a great airplane

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the 330 are the ones that keep falling out of the sky due to poor tail design that falls off under extreme stress

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A330, the poor man's B777

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B777. The dodgy Boeing version of the A330

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My trips on the Airbus have not been good ones. Flew from Kansai to Dubai on a Emirates 340 and the cabin was uncomfortable. The seats were harder than a JP Rails commuter train. Took the same airline from Dubai to Kuwait and it was a much nicer flight. It had a comfortable seat :) The return trip was the same. Checked business and First and the seats were just as hard :(

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stir fry mane an a330 that has fallen from the sky due to poor tail design. the a 3309 has less cabin noise over the 777 and give me 2-4-2 seating over 3-4-3 any day

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yuri just to let you know the seats are the airline choice so the same seats are in the emirates boeings

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yuri just to let you know the seats are the airline choice so the same seats are in the emirates boeings

The Emirates Boeing 777 3-4-3 seating configuration just occurs to me as the same seating configuration for JAL domestic services for the same plane. That's tolerable for traveling inside Japan as no high density route that use this plane takes longer than 2.5 hours to fly, but most coach passengers who fly Emirates to go to the otherside of the world via Dubai must have picked up a bargain

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Great! I fly mostly Finnair, when I go to Europe.

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the 330 are the ones that keep falling out of the sky due to poor tail design that falls off under extreme stress

stirfry, you keep mentioning this and posting dodgy links trying to 'prove' this. No A330 has ever demonstrably proven to have fallen out of the sky due to the tail falling off. Not one.

I think the A330 is a nice aircraft, quite comfy. I probably prefer the 777 but I'm happy when I fly on either.

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aoto, what does seating plan have to do with the tail assembly snapping off ?

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aoto, what does seating plan have to do with the tail assembly snapping off ?

What do your baseless allegations (possibly libelous allegations) have to do with Finnair's use of this aircraft with a proven safety record?

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aoto, not a chance. I did LOVE their service much nicer than Northwest pardon me Delta or United. It could of been the 777 had the "older" type of seats.

NeoJamal, my trip was to Kuwait on business.

stirfry, there has not been a determination of why these aircraft crashed.

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stirfry as i said can you name an a 330 that crashed due to a tail assembly failure

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yuri the b 777 are older than the a 330 and have the older type seats which are being updated. the seats on the 777 are narrower but there is a bigger pitch

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Good grief, Boeing vs Airbus again ... WTF cares?

I flew Finnair last year out of Centrair. The food was bad but the flight was good and the price was nice. I would definitely fly them again :) (especially since I could skip friggin Narita.)

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aoto, the pitot tubes are known to ice over too easily, causing you to lose your airspeed indication along with the auto pilot, auto throttles and rudder limit protection.

Also, according to none other than George Larson, Editor emeritus of Smithsonian Air and Space Magazine:

This is an account of a discussion I had recently with a maintenance professional who salvages airliner airframes for a living. He has been at it for a while, dba BMI Salvage at Opa Locka Airport in Florida. In the process of stripping parts, he sees things few others are able to see. His observations confirm prior assessments of Airbus structural deficiencies within our flight test and aero structures communities by those who have seen the closely held reports of A3XX-series vertical fin failures.

His observations: "I have scrapped just about every type of transport aircraft from A-310, A-320, B-747, 727, 737, 707, DC-3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, MD-80, L-188, L1011 and various Martin, Convair and KC-97 aircraft. Over a hundred of them. Airbus products are the flimsiest and most poorly designed as far as airframe structure is concerned by an almost obsession to utilize composite materials.

I have one A310 vertical fin on the premises from a demonstration I just performed. It was pathetic to see the composite structure shatter as it did, something a Boeing product will not do. The vertical fin along with the composite hinges on rudder and elevators is the worst example of structural use of composites I have ever seen and I am not surprised by the current pictures of rescue crews recovering the complete Vertical fin and rudder assembly at some distance from the crash site. The Airbus line has a history of both multiple rudder losses and a vertical fin and rudder separation from the airframe as was the case in NY with AA.

Now you can come reply with "yeah, but those weren't A330's", but is Airbus really building this one series right, after years of building their previous planes poorly?

Moderator: All readers, back on topic please.

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The new Boeing 787 is mostly made of composite materials, so the above quote will soon be true for Boeing too.

It may be possible to demonstrate that composite materials shatter under extreme stress, but how likely are such stresses encountered in normal use? If the designs were flawed the aircraft would not receive their type certificates.

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If the designs were flawed the aircraft would not receive their type certificates.

You would think so, but there is a lot political pressure within the airline industry. Not political like DJP or Democrats, but "office-politics" type.

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Tha airbus a330 in finn air colours will give a safe , quiet , green and comfortable to all who fly on it

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