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What effect do you think the ruling in the Amber Heard-Johnny Depp case will have on the #MeToo movement?

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First, please understand that this was a court's judgment and verdict, and an award based on such, at the conclusion of a trial. Also by itself, the verdict and award does not have precedent influence directly upon that court or any other court of record. Also it is important to remember that motions to reconsider the verdict, and to further consider the award of damages, costs and fees will likely be filed and will be ruled upon in the future by this court. And there will very likely be appeals to higher courts, although the parties are capable of settling any of the above between themselves at any time from now.

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I think the idea of "Believe all women" removes agency from them.

News at 11, women can lie and be abusive too.

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Hopefully it tempers the movement somewhat. Too many unsubstantiated accusations and comments made by women that can harm and destroy people's lives.

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Accusations have always gotten you into hot water under English law, and under incoming rules, social media will be required to rapidly removed them and pass them to lawyers if they want to sue you.

In English law, you libel someone if you publish defamatory comments about them that cause 'serious harm' to their reputation. It doesn't matter whether those comments are true or not. English law ices the cake with super injunctions. Wikipedia them.

In general, the legal system doesn't deliver justice. That's not why it was created, nor how it works. Male or female, you should take responsibility for your own safety. It is best to avoid rich and powerful people entirely and to protect yourself on a day to day basis from dangerous situations. Stay sober, don't accept drinks or pills from strangers, and if you feel uncomfortable, walk away. Carry something innocuous and legal that you can use as a weapon, such as a pen or a perfume spray, and be ready to use it. A rape alarm or a whistle is a good idea, and not just for women. Wear shoes you can run in. Keep your personal radar tuned 24/7 for any threat around you, and take some self-defence lessons. Not to develop martial arts abilities, but to be advised on where and how to hurt and disable people in an emergency, and to prepare yourself to actually do it. You wouldn't buy something or book a hotel room without reading a review, so don't be alone with a new partner without doing some research first.

When you walk down the street, male or female, you will be safer if you are in a position to take down anyone you need to, should they attack you. It can be a bad world out there. Be a warrior, not prey.

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It has killed it in the industry it started in. I assume every contract sign by a woman in the entertainment industry will have assurance not to associate with the Me Too movement.

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None. Normal people do have tabloids seeking them out for stories and don't have paid liars (i.e. actors) involved.

For normal people, the truth comes out.

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In general, the aeon old basics won’t change so much. Everyone uses that what he or she (nowadays also it lol) has or can. That’s why women usually play with flirts and beauty measures and men with physical strength , money, success etc. The exceptions do it also vice versa, but that’s not significant here. And like in every game you play or lies you use, you sometimes win and sometimes lose. Truth and justice and court verdicts or #MeToo , yes, nice or nice to have, whatever, but those are not the categories that count or change here something.

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Correction: Normal people do have tabloids

should be

Normal people do NOT have tabloids

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Hopefully nothing, except that people understand that domestic abuse does not always equal the man hitting/hurting the woman, but can also be vice-versa, and that women can lie just as well as men about it, too.

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The idea that whatever woman says is always true is a big problem in the MeToo movement! Accusations must be backed by indisputable facts and it is not always a man that is the perpetrator of domestic violence!!! There are many men who are terrified of their wife! There is more than one form of domestic violence, it can also be psychological and sexual manipulation as in withholding sex to get their way or to punish their partner. But taking a dump on the bed is disgusting beyond words so is the person who is capable of doing that!

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If the movement's leaders and 'voices' embrace the idea that, yeah, well, not all women are perfect either, there should be little negative or positive influence in changing any given individual's view of the need to restrain and incarcerate sexual psychopaths and other violent gender related behaviors. If they insist on pushing every accusation as prima facie guilt on the part of a man, they (women) will lose credibility. MeToo is, or should be, about fairness above all and to assert, insist even, that it is ALWAYS 'the man' is to preach obvious absurdity...and the truth is that most of the people who would do so are not interested in truth but in simply making trouble for their own personal benefit.

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The outcome of this trial should have zero impact on any movement. Amber's case wasn't destroyed by some misogynistic agenda. Amber's case was destroyed by evidence and exposure of her lies.

The movements should be totally supportive of a process that checks facts and reveals truth.

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Men are also #MeToo... Abuse is NOT just a women's problem. Period!

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