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To what extent do you think the Tokyo Olympics are responsible for the spike in coronavirus cases across the nation over the past month?

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To the relation or percentage of additionally imported virus loads divided by the virus load that had already been here. Those both parts have then been exponentially growing and will still do , minus the virus loads the officials and athletes took home into all corners of the planet when having left after the games. In shorter words, that whole idea was stupid and is now a mess anywhere.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

On a scale of 10, I would say in between 8 and 9. From the beginning of the pandemic they were always at play be it in the government decision, in the interpretation of these and the reaction to these. They are deeply intricated in everything.

1 ( +6 / -5 )

Definitely

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Holding the games gave rise to complacency; both directly in the Tokyo area where events happened, and in the rest of the country, where many athletes and staff came from.

Watching 100,000+ people involved and enjoying themselves to a degree not permitted for the locals; seeing IOC execs and Japan leaders entertaining each other and traveling around, against the the agreed guidelines and playbooks; performance-induced and medal-winning enthusiasm leading to gatherings and celebrations around the country; insufficient testing of support staff involved in the olympic village bubble, such as drivers; breaches of the bubble by maskless athletes, officials, and media staff; and finally extreme frustration with and tiredness of the extended 'States of Emergency' in order to hold the games which seemed to have little effect other than making people angry and poorer.

Everything added up.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

Nearly none.

600 positive tests do not create a spike in a country of 120M people. And most of those people have left.

Lack of vaccines. Lack of people staying home are the real causes.

My county has 384 per 100K people with positive tests in the last 2 weeks.

Since the start, there have been 67,000 cases in the county.

Japan is doing great in comparison.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

To the anti-Olympics crowd, this question is like waving a red flag at a bull - ole !

3 ( +8 / -5 )

Its impossible to say at this point, the direct contribution (cases originated from participants) is much less important than the indirect effect of the games, from contradicting directly the message from the experts that special care should be taken and events cancelled or postponed to the huge use of resourced (tests and personnel for example) that could have been priceless in the opportune detection, tracing and isolation of cases to interrupt the spreading.

This is going to be something for the experts to analyze in the future scientifically.

4 ( +8 / -4 )

Public health officials have stated that the Olympics is NOT a major factor in transmission. Athletes and officials were regularly tested and quarantined if positive. There was little chance for the public to come into contact. At least until the last few days when most had been here and been tested several times.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

We really do not know how many people are infected as there is no comprehensive testing of the population. Therefore the numbers that are published are misleading!

4 ( +5 / -1 )

I would say the games are about 30-40% responsible. The GAMES were put front & centre from the very beginning of the pandemic back in about Feb2020!

Since then the govt has done EVERYTHING in its power to ensure the games went ahead, country & its PEOPLE be damned!

So the games have been front & centre for the entire mess from the very beginning. The people got sick & tired of the lies & deceit, the lack of testing, being told to stay home DONT go get checked, FORGET about being tested, on & on & ON!!

This went on over a year non stop & then when it was patently clear the games should not have happened the govt DUG IN & here we all are, its a god damned mess & people have, & will continue to die

So yeah I would say 30-40% in on the IOC!!! At least !!!!

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Let's look back on the day when the marathon tournament was held in Hokkaido. Lots of fans across the nation get together at the sidewalk to watch and cheer the athletes, even though the municipal government and Olympic committee advised to refrain from going to the spot. One of the spectators answered in the interview as follows: "It cannot be helped. The excitement defeated me".

The atmosphere which comes from the notion, "it's not a problem if each one of us pay attention for the infection, undermine the common sense, we are under state of emergency for the outbreak. I'm sure this Olympic games will bring unexpected negative results as well as hope.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

It's been widely reported that 80 of the young, unvaccinated police officers from around Japan who were seconded to work at the Olympics have taken coronavirus home with them. The young, unvaccinated police officers all slept in the same dormitory.

Six police officers from Matsue in Shimane Prefecture took the virus home with them and seem to have infected a load of other people.

https://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/local/news/article.php?comment_id=783964&comment_sub_id=0&category_id=256

Five kids from a Miyazaki HS tested positive for coronavirus at the Koshien Baseball tournament.

https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASP8J3D76P8JPTQP00Z.html

5 ( +6 / -1 )

officials? Gotta name? You name one… I'll believe you. And give you a million yen.

Mr KiplingAug. 16  03:42 pm JST

Public health officials have stated that the Olympics is NOT a major factor in transmission. Athletes and officials were regularly tested and quarantined if positive. There was little chance for the public to come into contact. At least until the last few days when most had been here and been tested several times.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

I would say that the Olympics are about 75% responsible.

The majority of workers at the Olympics were contractors, who were not subject to the vaccination drive nor required to submit PCR tests, including many of the support staff from overseas. These contractors were allowed to travel anywhere in Japan during the Olympics and could have spread the virus to other people during that time, and many of them were Japanese. They were probably the main vector in introducing the virus to many aspects of Japanese society.

It is impossible to request that people refrain from going out when the Olympics are happening - it's not just about the sport but in fact a major party. Reports about foreigners in Shibuya having a party probably did not sit well with Japanese either.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

This pandemic has no certainty to confirm the real reason at this moment. Time will tell and God knows.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

A "definitive" answer could be determined with proper data, but that conclusion is probably completely utterly useless.

No one would use it for modeling purposes, and no one would be convinced by its results regardless of what they are.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

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