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What's your stance on the political tug-of-war going on between the Okinawan government and the central government over the planned relocation of the U.S. Marine Corps air base at Futenma to Henoko?

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The US industrial-military complex has no place in Okinawa or any other part of Japan for that matter.

They still behave like an occupying force more than 70 years after WWII ended.

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I say let the Okinawans decide. Although Tokyo has the final say, things that happen in Okinawa is the Okinawans' jurisdiction and they're the one's being affected. I'd be willing to bet that if plans to relocate a US base close to Tokyo or Osaka would be met with resistance from the local government and its citizens.

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I spent the first half of this month translating various reports and surveys regarding the proposed relocation to Henoko among other things. I knew very little about the subject going in, but now I think the Okinawans have a very strong case for getting rid of all US bases from their islands.

Unfortunately for them, Tokyo doesn't care what they think.

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My friend lives down there and it seems pretty peaceful. I guess their is a small but vocal group of professional agitators.

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I'm told, the new location is an environmentally sensitive areas important to duodongs, the most innocent of sea dwellers, and what mny people might consider an excellent candidate for ecological sanctuary. What better place to destroy because we can? The U.S. military will destroy the duodongs. The Okinawans were some of the most valiant defenders of Japan that Americans faced. Tokyo rewards them by ignoring their wishes and dumping as much of the Occupation onto Okinawa as possible. If they, the occupiers, are going to Guam, why do they have to tear up Henoko? I'm surprised the Marines haven't tried to lease Iwo (Iōjima) from Tokyo, given its centrality in legend. Best left as a monument to the fruits of mindless Pride. Just another form of Human insanity. Anyway, U.S. OUT OF OKINAWA!! I'm sure my feelings are important to them. And Tokyo? Are you SURE there isn't a little racism in your attitude toward Okinawa?

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They have not seen a duodongs for years even before the land reclaiming started. The airstrip is in junction with another USMC base so it is not as if there are many local residents in direct vicinity.

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The protests snowballed when Futenma landowners teamed with communist activists to delay the Henoko relocation.

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I guess their is a small but vocal group of professional agitators.

That's correct they are called the US military.

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Want the US military gone, all Japan has to do is ask. Read your Mutual Security Agreement.

But I hope you guys are ok with Abe modifying the constitution, because a 'self defense force' won't cut it without the US in your backyard.

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@extanker

Want the US military gone, all Japan has to do is ask

I doubt it. The US is here to serve its own interests, not Japan's and certainly not Okinawa's.

Our only hope is that Americans start demanding that their government stops spending their tax dollars on trying to dominate the world and that's unlikely to happen as their Right wing appears to have an infantile adoration of men in uniforms that prohibits any critical thinking about their military's use and purpose.

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Want the US military gone, all Japan has to do is ask. Read your Mutual Security Agreement.

Abe won't do it he is on Washingtons leash so we hope a new prime minister will ask the US military to finally quit occupying Japanese soil.

But I hope you guys are ok with Abe modifying the constitution, because a 'self defense force' won't cut it without the US in your backyard.

Don't worry Japan will be just fine on their own they don't need a standing army in their backyard.

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My friend lives down there and it seems pretty peaceful. I guess their is a small but vocal group of professional agitators.

Yeah for the most part this is true, as protesters are paid per diem, But there haven't been any protests for months now, outside of those who go up to Henoko for their PT job!

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I doubt it. The US is here to serve its own interests, not Japan's and certainly not Okinawa's.

Really now? When did Okinawa become an independent country? There are US military bases throughout Japan and after Futenma is closed, and Camp Schwab's extension is completed, the US military foot print on Okinawa will become significantly smaller.

Want the US military gone, all Japan has to do is ask

Same thing happened in the Philippines, these bases are leased by agreement with the US so, if Japan wants them gone they could very well ask the US to leave. It's not like there is any precedent being made.

The protests snowballed when Futenma landowners teamed with communist activists to delay the Henoko relocation.

The Futenma landowners for the overwhelming majority have been silent on the issue, even the current mayor of Ginowan, (host of Futenma) was elected because he wants the base out of his city. Lost in all the noise is the people of Ginowan, everyone talks about Camp Schwab's landfill, but conveniently forget that a generation has gone by while waiting for SOMETHING to happen!

Once the construction finally started, THEN the protesters and local politicians started complaining, they waited because they wanted more handouts, more money, and expected someone else to deal with the problem, and when it happened (finally) they started crying!

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I say let the Okinawans decide

I have asked this question countless numbers of times, how do you differentiate between "Okinawan's" and "Japanese" when it comes to making a statement like this?

"Okinawan's" are Japanese citizens, so in effect ALL Japanese should rightfully have a say in this issue!

If you decide to only allow "ethnic" Okinawan's decide, you are being racist against everyone else, who isn't ethnic Okinawan!

So? Who decides?

Like all the politicians here have been trying to say all along, it's an "ALL Japan" problem, so, let ALL Japan decide. Hold a national referendum on the issue. Wont happen, but it's what should be done, and not just about Okinawa, but ALL US bases in Japan!

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Japan needs its alliance with the US, like them or not, more than ever.

There are issues no doubt but I hope some fair accommodation can be found...

Its not hard to see the future if it can't be sorted out..

US leaves, Japan is forced to change its constitution, massive build up of military to counter the Chinese expansion and territorial aggression, Japans neighbors under the guise of fear of Japans past start military build ups. Japan looks at compulsory military training and service like South Korea. Someone makes a silly mistake and... who knows whats next.

This is definitely a case of better the devil you know.

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Japan needs its alliance with the US, like them or not, more than ever.

No they don't, more than 70 years of occupation of Japanese soil is more than enough.

US leaves, Japan is forced to change its constitution,

Not necessarily, paragraph 1 of article 9 of the Constitution can be legally interpretated as such that Japan has the right to defend itself when under attack and that's all it needs to do.

massive build up of military to counter the Chinese expansion and territorial aggression,

One could make a strong case that China's behavior is the direct consequence of the US military presence in the region so when they leave the problem will solve itself.

Japan looks at compulsory military training and service like South Korea. Someone makes a silly mistake and... who knows whats next.

That's just fearmongering based on nothing concrete.

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My stance is the same as it ever was.

Get the US military out of Okinawa. Cease the occupation of Japan.

In fact, get the US military bases off all our countries.

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In fact, get the US military bases off all our countries.

Sure, hand overseas US bases over to China. See what is happening to the Philippines after the US left. A large swath of islands on their doorstep is being stealthily invaded by China.

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