Unfortunately is a case by case thing, some do very positive work, others are terribly inefficient and dedicate too much money to the overhead or choose very poorly what kind of activities they support. In any case donations (of any kind) are something worth considering but only after making an effort to research the groups carefully.
Supported the UK Friends of the Earth since beginning in 1971. For some time also Greenpeace.
Back then there was no internet and social media so getting info out was hard and time-consuming. We had a community press with offset printers. They were a blessing to the movement. We printed monthly mags to get the info out.
Many environmental issues were highlighted but unfortunately, the people with the power did not listen.
Supported the UK Friends of the Earth since beginning in 1971. For some time also Greenpeace.
Back then there was no internet and social media so getting info out was hard and time-consuming. We had a community press with offset printers. They were a blessing to the movement. We printed monthly mags to get the info out.
A problem for sushi and sushi prices. Greenpeace turns their heads when Japan does its yearly dolphin culling. They can be bought, like most "non-profits." If the group in question pays more than the donors they will move on to the next issue.
What do you think of environmental groups like Greenpeace?
An absolute pain in he backside that cause disruption to everyday life. Donating to these people is no better than flushing money down the toilet. Want to donate money somewhere? Then something useful like Cancer Research is a much better proposition.
They do their part in making people aware of the environment's condition, but in terms of making things change for the betterment of mother nature, that's a different story.
I think they started off with good intentions, but nowadays are corrupted and focus on exaggerated problems like AGW and do far too little about genuine problems like plastic pollution. As others mentioned, one of Greenpeace's founders, Patrick Moore, has a few choice words to say about it. And as a result, they've been trying to smear him ever since.
The basic system we all live in is a capitalistic one. That’s somehow ensuring growth, development and accumulation of financial resources needed to solve bigger problems or making further inventions and progress, related to us all and our environment too. The problem with all those organizations like Greenpeace is that they are ideologically biased or indoctrinated and quickly develop an extremism to go beyond their purpose, starting to fight capitalism instead of caring about nature and environment only. Although it’s in principle good and necessary that those correctives and organizations exist, but their task would really be to only perfectly control and correct capitalism and it’s intrinsic systemic errors, in this case explicitly the environmental ones, but surely not to radically or extremely fight against it.
An absolute pain in he backside that cause disruption to everyday life. Donating to these people is no better than flushing money down the toilet. Want to donate money somewhere? Then something useful like Cancer Research is a much better proposition.
you asked. They are social justice terrorist hiding behind a screen of environmental activists. They are responsible for blowing up Norstream and back and financed by Scandinavian Governments
Environmentalist groups can be useful in drawing attention to issues not covered well in the press.
In the UK we’ve had the government green-lighting pumping all kinds of s##t into the waterways. Our Tory supporting media haven’t exactly been all over this.
Indeed - Nobody is forced to donate to Greenpeace, but if you do, all your money is doing is paying for their transport, accomodation and food towards their next 'siege' of great inconvenience to the common person on the street who frankly don't care. Hence my suggestion of donating your money to another cause. Not these leeches.
There are no real advocacy groups, all are fronts for corporate/political interests. They rake in big money written off of their donor’s taxes, spend a few paltry percent on the environment, and distribute the rest on high six-figure salaries to their executives, campaign donations to politicians who make their donations tax exempt, and high-paying jobs to their family and friends.
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Moonraker
Mostly do a great job. Thanks Greenpeace.
Wick's pencil
Driven by hidden agenda.
Moonraker
An agenda which you are privy to, Wick? Please tell.
Jimizo
Do tell us more.
Don’t forget to give us the sources.
virusrex
Unfortunately is a case by case thing, some do very positive work, others are terribly inefficient and dedicate too much money to the overhead or choose very poorly what kind of activities they support. In any case donations (of any kind) are something worth considering but only after making an effort to research the groups carefully.
Wick's pencil
The founder of Greenpeace has some very interesting things to say about that group.
Exactly.
wallace
Supported the UK Friends of the Earth since beginning in 1971. For some time also Greenpeace.
Back then there was no internet and social media so getting info out was hard and time-consuming. We had a community press with offset printers. They were a blessing to the movement. We printed monthly mags to get the info out.
Many environmental issues were highlighted but unfortunately, the people with the power did not listen.
Mr Kipling
They are a great way for people to feel good about themselves, I donate to "save the whale", I'm awesome.
wallace
People did not start environmental groups to feel good about themselves. They cared.
bass4funk
Go figure.
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/greenpeace-cofounder-patrick-moore-tells-us-senate-there-is-no-proof-humans-cause-climate-change-9159627.html
Now that I truly believe.
https://fcpp.org/2022/09/16/greenpeace-founder-patrick-moore-says-climate-change-based-on-false-narratives/
CPTOMO
Oh, please.
wallace
Today is World Environment Day focusing on plastic pollution.
Bofington
A problem for sushi and sushi prices. Greenpeace turns their heads when Japan does its yearly dolphin culling. They can be bought, like most "non-profits." If the group in question pays more than the donors they will move on to the next issue.
theResident
What do you think of environmental groups like Greenpeace?
An absolute pain in he backside that cause disruption to everyday life. Donating to these people is no better than flushing money down the toilet. Want to donate money somewhere? Then something useful like Cancer Research is a much better proposition.
Toshihiro
They do their part in making people aware of the environment's condition, but in terms of making things change for the betterment of mother nature, that's a different story.
Algernon LaCroix
I think they started off with good intentions, but nowadays are corrupted and focus on exaggerated problems like AGW and do far too little about genuine problems like plastic pollution. As others mentioned, one of Greenpeace's founders, Patrick Moore, has a few choice words to say about it. And as a result, they've been trying to smear him ever since.
Sven Asai
The basic system we all live in is a capitalistic one. That’s somehow ensuring growth, development and accumulation of financial resources needed to solve bigger problems or making further inventions and progress, related to us all and our environment too. The problem with all those organizations like Greenpeace is that they are ideologically biased or indoctrinated and quickly develop an extremism to go beyond their purpose, starting to fight capitalism instead of caring about nature and environment only. Although it’s in principle good and necessary that those correctives and organizations exist, but their task would really be to only perfectly control and correct capitalism and it’s intrinsic systemic errors, in this case explicitly the environmental ones, but surely not to radically or extremely fight against it.
wallace
Greenpeace is also an independent group in different countries. Greenpeace Japan has provided good reports and Data on Fukushima.
RKL
Well said, and great alternative.
John-San
you asked. They are social justice terrorist hiding behind a screen of environmental activists. They are responsible for blowing up Norstream and back and financed by Scandinavian Governments
Jimizo
Environmentalist groups can be useful in drawing attention to issues not covered well in the press.
In the UK we’ve had the government green-lighting pumping all kinds of s##t into the waterways. Our Tory supporting media haven’t exactly been all over this.
wallace
Cancer Research is not for the environment.
Geeter Mckluskie
I don't
inkochi
Whatever agenda Greenpeace’s and similar voice’s are essential.
wallace
No one is forced to donate to Greenpeace or any other group.
Ah_so
Number of times that Greenpeace has bombed French government ships killing those on board: zero
Number of times that the French government has bombed Greenpeace ships killing those on board: one.
They are pretty open about their agenda, so much so that governments will kill to prevent them following it.
theResident
Indeed - Nobody is forced to donate to Greenpeace, but if you do, all your money is doing is paying for their transport, accomodation and food towards their next 'siege' of great inconvenience to the common person on the street who frankly don't care. Hence my suggestion of donating your money to another cause. Not these leeches.
sangetsu03
There are no real advocacy groups, all are fronts for corporate/political interests. They rake in big money written off of their donor’s taxes, spend a few paltry percent on the environment, and distribute the rest on high six-figure salaries to their executives, campaign donations to politicians who make their donations tax exempt, and high-paying jobs to their family and friends.