There has been a lot about Musk recently. His anti-union and hoarding of capital would not seem to make him a good actor in society.
For me the central question is how he reconciles some of his professed loftier ideals, like admiration for the works of the Scottish socialist author Iain Banks and transhumanism, with his economic and political influence.
Not know enough of the person to make a proper judgment, but at least according to the image he likes to project in the media he seems too focused on grabbing attention and reaching his goals no matter the means, neither thing would not make him appealing as a boss or colleague for me.
Tesla’s work environment has been reported to be toxic, so no I’d never want to work for him. Work with him? He’s obviously a narcissist (to the nth degree) and I doubt he thinks anyone “works with” him. So that’s an obvious no, too.
I used to think shows like Veep, Silicon Valley, 30 Rock, The Office, Succession, etc…were satire, but it sadly seems that they aren’t.
In short, I’m happy that I’ll never have to work for a company like Tesla.
Tesla’s work environment has been reported to be toxic, so no I’d never want to work for him. Work with him? He’s obviously a narcissist (to the nth degree) and I doubt he thinks anyone “works with” him. So that’s an obvious no, too.
Elon Musk donated $50 million to help St. Judes. Also, SpaceX launched the Inspiration4 mission which raised over $200m for St. Jude.
He also posed the idea of opening Twitter HQ as a homeless shelter. And he's helped homeless shelters & food banks in TX
But despite all this I will assume the opinion he is a horrible person because I have my opinions assigned to me by the media.
All normal people would get in conflict with him twice a second, which means he probably fires you or me after half a second. And the small rest who are of types that can work with him and stand it for a while are shouted and scolded at with his famous citation even when met the first time: ‘Still here? I thought I fired you yesterday’.
Being a CEO is hard. To have a successful business, you have to focus on the product or service, P&L, cash flow, marketing, branding, sales, costs and no matter how much effort you put into positive feedback with employees, more than half of them are salary bandits who think you’re naive about how little they do.
You know when they’re just political talkers without substance. It’s amazing how many people think that they’re clever and they can BS you. You don’t get to be a CEO by being naive.
You don’t have anyone to complain to or whine to. Successful CEO’s have to drive hard. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, et al didn’t get there without being demanding.
But no, I wouldn’t work for Musk. Once you become a CEO, it’s too hard to work for others. It’s like the first time you fly first class, you never want to sit in economy class again.
But no, I wouldn’t work for Musk. Once you become a CEO, it’s too hard to work for others. It’s like the first time you fly first class, you never want to sit in economy class again.
Same.
As CEO of Worldwide Prestige, I buy and sell men like Musk every day.
Are we to judge TALENT simply by the PERSONALITY which accompanies it? If so, many of our icons of the past would be cast into the dust including, and especially, a rather prominent physicist. And does 'public persona' really indicate what a person may be like when sitting down having a beer (or whatever) with friends? That Musk accomplishes much to envy driven by his personality might mitigate what some see as excess, and an excess that was also a characteristic of the person who gave us electric light, recorded sound, motion pictures... and for the 'average' person who tries to compare their reality and petty worldviews to his, would we want to work with or for THEM in their misguided conceit? As for Musk being a CEO, he is well beyond anything as trivial as 'CEO' in gifts and contributions to our futures. What the future may see as a 'Great' person rarely escapes criticism in their own time by the wouldbes. For a person like Musk, one can only 'behold' and wonder and try to ignore the rough edges which may even be a necessity for such a wunderkind. Judging him just makes the critic seem even smaller...
I dislike him, but not any more or less than any other capitalist. I dislike the whole self-made narrative, he is rich because of his family's emerald mines.
Now to be fair, every billionaire has made their money by exploiting other's labor, it is literally a requirement. So in that regard, he is in no way better or worse than anyone else. In a perfect world, it wouldn't even be possible for someone like him to exist.
As an entrepreneur and engineer, he's a visionary who has changed two seemingly intractable industries (automotive and space), simultaneously. Brilliant.
As a social media personality (and seemingly as a human being), he's beyond adolescent and needs to learn to grow up.
It's hard to see how the two can co-exist, but they do.
Who are Tesla cars made for? How much is a trip on a SpaceX rocket?
SpaceX's Inspiration4 mission. SpaceX and Isaacman have not divulged how much the billionaire paid for Inspiration4, but it could be around $200 million.
A Model 3 Tesla is about $50,000.
I know I shouldn't do this, but I just can't resist;
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dagon
There has been a lot about Musk recently. His anti-union and hoarding of capital would not seem to make him a good actor in society.
For me the central question is how he reconciles some of his professed loftier ideals, like admiration for the works of the Scottish socialist author Iain Banks and transhumanism, with his economic and political influence.
virusrex
Not know enough of the person to make a proper judgment, but at least according to the image he likes to project in the media he seems too focused on grabbing attention and reaching his goals no matter the means, neither thing would not make him appealing as a boss or colleague for me.
Alan Harrison
I guess that one would actually work for / with him to then decide.
Godan
Tesla’s work environment has been reported to be toxic, so no I’d never want to work for him. Work with him? He’s obviously a narcissist (to the nth degree) and I doubt he thinks anyone “works with” him. So that’s an obvious no, too.
I used to think shows like Veep, Silicon Valley, 30 Rock, The Office, Succession, etc…were satire, but it sadly seems that they aren’t.
In short, I’m happy that I’ll never have to work for a company like Tesla.
master
Elon Musk donated $50 million to help St. Judes. Also, SpaceX launched the Inspiration4 mission which raised over $200m for St. Jude.
He also posed the idea of opening Twitter HQ as a homeless shelter. And he's helped homeless shelters & food banks in TX
But despite all this I will assume the opinion he is a horrible person because I have my opinions assigned to me by the media.
master
You should include this statement on your resumé.
Im sure perspective employers would be thrilled to hear it.
Sven Asai
All normal people would get in conflict with him twice a second, which means he probably fires you or me after half a second. And the small rest who are of types that can work with him and stand it for a while are shouted and scolded at with his famous citation even when met the first time: ‘Still here? I thought I fired you yesterday’.
Peter Neil
Being a CEO is hard. To have a successful business, you have to focus on the product or service, P&L, cash flow, marketing, branding, sales, costs and no matter how much effort you put into positive feedback with employees, more than half of them are salary bandits who think you’re naive about how little they do.
You know when they’re just political talkers without substance. It’s amazing how many people think that they’re clever and they can BS you. You don’t get to be a CEO by being naive.
You don’t have anyone to complain to or whine to. Successful CEO’s have to drive hard. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, et al didn’t get there without being demanding.
But no, I wouldn’t work for Musk. Once you become a CEO, it’s too hard to work for others. It’s like the first time you fly first class, you never want to sit in economy class again.
master
Same.
As CEO of Worldwide Prestige, I buy and sell men like Musk every day.
I could never work for one of them again.
Blacklabel
He has made me a lot of money without us knowing each other, we will just keep our relationship like that.
William Bjornson
Are we to judge TALENT simply by the PERSONALITY which accompanies it? If so, many of our icons of the past would be cast into the dust including, and especially, a rather prominent physicist. And does 'public persona' really indicate what a person may be like when sitting down having a beer (or whatever) with friends? That Musk accomplishes much to envy driven by his personality might mitigate what some see as excess, and an excess that was also a characteristic of the person who gave us electric light, recorded sound, motion pictures... and for the 'average' person who tries to compare their reality and petty worldviews to his, would we want to work with or for THEM in their misguided conceit? As for Musk being a CEO, he is well beyond anything as trivial as 'CEO' in gifts and contributions to our futures. What the future may see as a 'Great' person rarely escapes criticism in their own time by the wouldbes. For a person like Musk, one can only 'behold' and wonder and try to ignore the rough edges which may even be a necessity for such a wunderkind. Judging him just makes the critic seem even smaller...
Kaerimashita
Silly question really. None of us know him. And would depend on exactly what work I might do with or for him
Addfwyn
I dislike him, but not any more or less than any other capitalist. I dislike the whole self-made narrative, he is rich because of his family's emerald mines.
Now to be fair, every billionaire has made their money by exploiting other's labor, it is literally a requirement. So in that regard, he is in no way better or worse than anyone else. In a perfect world, it wouldn't even be possible for someone like him to exist.
Also no, I would never want to work with/for him.
Arrrgh-Type
As an entrepreneur and engineer, he's a visionary who has changed two seemingly intractable industries (automotive and space), simultaneously. Brilliant.
As a social media personality (and seemingly as a human being), he's beyond adolescent and needs to learn to grow up.
It's hard to see how the two can co-exist, but they do.
FizzBit
I think the world needs more geniuses that can dream, than psychopathic corporate politicians who love to print money.
Peter Neil
Arrrgh-TypeToday 11:03 am JST
He has a degree in economics and one in physics.
yokohamarides
Biggest grifter since PT Barnum.
master
Let this post sink in for just a few seconds...
master
I know I shouldn't do this, but I just can't resist;
Whats your point, zichi?
RonriiUrufu
I don't know him personally but from what I read he's not the type of person I would like to know personally.
I'd rather work in a soup kitchen serving the homeless and refugees instead of enriching someone who has more than enough.
master
Yet you won't quit your job to do just that.
master
Such a bizarre statement. I'm not aware of a single person who called him such a thing.
I AM aware, however, that Musk has created over 110000 jobs worldwide, making him a very good friend to the working class.
Thats 110000 more jobs than you have created.