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Why is nationalist sentiment rising in politics around the developed world?

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Because people need a scape goat, migrant is easier target to put blame for anything that being happened.

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Because human beings are dumb. They've had that fascist groove thang once before and didn't learn their lesson.

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Reaction to 30ish years of globalization I suspect.

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When governments are selling out their countries to unelected external interests, and allowing large numbers of legal and illegal immigration from developing countries that put pressure on housing availability and costs for existing citizens, it's no surprise that nationalism is rising.

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The world has turned left. The righties see it, and it scares them, as it is an existential threat to far-right extremism. This is the last death throes of the far-right. They aren't going down without screaming and fighting.

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It's push-back against the globalist/socialism being shoved down onto the citizenry.

Each nation is sovereign. Socialists don't respect that.

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Racism is cool again, unfortunately, and people believe Russia shows what they can achieve with it.

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If "the world has turned left" (it hasn't) then why are the far-lefty extremists concerned about the rise in nationalism?

Perhaps living in the paragon of leftism Cuba would be enlightening.

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It has been 40+ years of promoting the global market economy, for the sake of vested corporate interests, that has pushed globalism. This has been done by mainly right-wing governments. It has nothing to do with socialism. How some have managed to twist it that way is beyond me. Now the very same right wants to allegedly save us from their own policies of division and call the global market economy "socialism" to distract the credulous.

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If "the world has turned left" (it hasn't)

It has - look at America, where the right wingers haven't been the choice of the people for 7/8 of the past elections.

This is pretty common world-wide.

then why are the far-lefty extremists concerned about the rise in nationalism?

Huh? Why would the world turning left suddenly not have people who support democracy concerned about right-wing nationalism? I hope you didn't think there was a logical argument behind your non-sequitur.

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hard times create desperate and unhappy people looking for someone/ something strong to cling to. Autocrats, political players and capitalists know this and use this to their advantage.

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People revert to tribalism when under stress. Civilisation is a thinly painted surface layer, easily stripped off. It is very easy for nationalists to appeal to the baser instincts of people by scapegoating 'others'. When they get rumbled, their promises turning out to be lies and their economy not working, they can just start a war to distract people from their failure. Humanity switches between trading with other countries, and bombing them. Only when an enormous pile of dead bodies piles up, do they decide to switch back to trade.

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Why is nationalist sentiment rising in politics around the developed world?

Which countries?

In my country of birth ( the UK ) , Brexit was seen as a nationalist phenomenon ( partly true ) but polls now show a majority seeing it as a mistake. We had an uncomfortable rise in trash like the BNP in local elections but that fizzled out. The cross-eyed fringe right headbangers are making no real ground with the electorate.

Trump was seen as a strongman of the nationalists but Biden put him over his knee and sent him off bawling about being a victim.

There is a right winger in charge in Italy but they change leaders like changing socks.

Not sure how overwhelming this rising nationalist sentiment is.

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Trump was seen as a strongman of the nationalists but Biden put him over his knee and sent him off bawling about being a victim. 

Not even close to reality, the truth of the matter is concerning the Nationalists lost interest when they saw that Trump was cordial with people of color, blacks in particular, and then slowly that support leveled off in time.

Now I would say that there has been an effort in the US for minorities to religiously support one party, and that party for over 65 years but that party has never brought anything of substance or economic prosperity to these communities but kept them isolated and segregated from the rest of society and turned these people into a political pariah, while the racist ruling class presides over them.

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"Kanye West, Despite Trump’s remarks demonstrating his anti-civil rights attitude and his endorsement of racist conspiracies, the Black rapper supported the president and defended himself from liberal criticism by saying he was a “free thinker.” "

https://rci.nanzan-u.ac.jp/america/ja/journal/item/nras44_09_moriyama_takahito.pdf

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“free thinker.” 

Which he is, even though most of what Kanye does is for marketing and self-promotion, he is a calculating person without a doubt and knows how to create controversy, which made him a multi-billionaire.

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bass4funk

   “free thinker.”

> Which he is, even though most of what Kanye does is for marketing and self-promotion, he is a calculating person without a doubt and knows how to create controversy, which made him a multi-billionaire.

You could not have read the 117 pages of the article I linked in 6 minutes.

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You could not have read the 117 pages of the article I linked in 6 minutes.

I don't have to, I can read the main points and highlights within that time.

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Why is nationalist sentiment rising in politics around the developed world?

It is just an aspect of the corporate funded culture war.

Corporations and the rentier class want to divert attention the true source of depressed living standards and crumbling infrastructure that they embody and target foreigners, minorities and the poor.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/23/rightwing-donors-fuel-america-culture-wars

It is to destroy class consciousness amongst the vast working majority and to secure their position as a tiny, super-wealthy parasite class.

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Maybe the "developed world" isn't very developed after all.

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Not even close to reality, the truth of the matter is concerning the Nationalists lost interest when they saw that Trump was cordial with people of color

You described yourself as a ‘nationalist’.

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You described yourself as a ‘nationalist’.

“American Nationalist” is what I said.

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Patriots are better than nationalists.

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Patriots are better than nationalists.

You can be both.

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You can’t it would be a contradiction.

But you claimed to be an American Nationalist.

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You described yourself as a ‘nationalist’.

“American Nationalist” is what I said.

So which nationality were the nationalists in your post who lost interest in Trump who a self-declared nationalist?

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Nationalism is not racism.

Liberals will equate and conflate both, but the fact is that the so-called liberals can be as racists as the right-wingers.

The only difference is that they disguise their racism better.

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You can’t

According to whom????

it would be a contradiction.

Well, that’s your personal opinion.

But you claimed to be an American Nationalist.

Absolutely.

So which nationality were the nationalists in your post who lost interest in Trump who a self-declared nationalist

Ask them and you should find out.

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Nationalists put their interests above ann other nations and consider themselves to be superior. Patriots while having a love for their country and culture respect the rights and interests of other nations and can coexist with an appreciation for global cooperation and diversity. Nationalism may not always be willing to cooperate with other nations and can sometimes lead to isolationism.

Extreme forms of nationalism can lead to exclusionary attitudes, conflicts between nations, or disregard for the rights and interests of other groups.

Nationalism tends to place a stronger emphasis on the exclusionary promotion of a specific nation's interests and identity, while patriotism is often more inclusive and can coexist with an appreciation for global unity and diversity.

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Nationalists put their interests above ann other nations and consider themselves to be superior. Patriots while having a love for their country and culture respect the rights and interests of other nations and can coexist with an appreciation for global cooperation and diversity.

Bingo?

Nationalism may not always be willing to cooperate with other nations and can sometimes lead to isolationism.

Yes.

Extreme forms of nationalism can lead to exclusionary attitudes, conflicts between nations, or disregard for the rights and interests of other groups.

Not necessarily always

Nationalism tends to place a stronger emphasis on the exclusionary promotion of a specific nation's interests and identity, while patriotism is often more inclusive and can coexist with an appreciation for global unity and diversity

You can merge the two as well.

Well, that’s your interpretation, as a proud American, and one who is a patriot, I have a different interpretation, I could care less what racist nationalist think or do, I have nothing to do with that, so they can interpret themselves any way they choose.

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Because the elites are so utterly corrupt and greedy they bleeding the people right out of their homes and starving them. The people know someone is to blame, but they are too brainwashed to find the real enemy usually.

I hope this time they figure out its the super rich and powerful that took the food right out of their mouths, cause it wasn't some guy who came to your country with nothing and now picks tomatoes and butchers cows to get by.

The elites sent your jobs to China and Mexico. The elites set up the foreclosure system. The elites took welfare checks while your business imploded. The French got this right in 1789 and history needs a repeat.

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bass4funk

You put your country first as a Nationalist and have expressed many times you do not care about other countries while a patriot would.

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It's no co-incidence that nationalism is having a purple patch the same time as conspiracy theories. They both provide simple 'solutions' to complicated problems and they both ignore the elephant in the room, the gap between rich and poor and the financial, political and social systems in place to maintain the status quo.

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You put your country first as a Nationalist and have expressed many times you do not care about other countries while a patriot would.

I am both, I am an American patriot, I won’t question others about their patriotism, but they can’t question mine as well. I’m put country, and the people first. I’m not a globalist at all. I would and claim both and proudly.

The world can think what it wants, they have that right, but their concern is not mine, my people are my concern.

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Because the elites are so utterly corrupt and greedy they bleeding the people right out of their homes and starving them. The people know someone is to blame, but they are too brainwashed to find the real enemy usually

So exactly who is to blame?

I keep hearing ‘elites’.

Who are they?

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The world can think what it wants, they have that right, but their concern is not mine, my people are my concern

Isn’t your family Japanese?

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bass4funkToday 04:23 pm JST

The world can think what it wants, they have that right, but their concern is not mine, my people are my concern.

Who exactly are your people? We know you won't spend a penny to defend the US from its enemies abroad. You don't care that undocumented encounters at the border are down. Are your people just your family? Sounds like a good recipe to end up on the wrong side of the law.

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Isn’t your family Japanese?

I’m talking on the context of the US nation

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Who exactly are your people? We know you won't spend a penny to defend the US from its enemies abroad.

How is the War in Ukraine beneficial to our National interest? I never can get an answer to that burning question…

You don't care that undocumented encounters at the border are down.

I care and no, they are not down, I don’t care what this WH or Myorkas tries to mouth peddle, I only believe the border agents on the ground and the people that live in and around the area and the illegals that come in as well.

Are your people just your family?

My nation as an American.

Sounds like a good recipe to end up on the wrong side of the law.

No, because I’m on the right side of it.

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and the nation of your wife and children who also allow you to live here? That does not matter to you.

Nothing to be concerned about. Anyway, as an American, I do pride myself on being a patriot who’s an American Nationalist, and nothing to be ashamed of. Some people are globalist that’s ok as well. I’m not one of them.

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Pride is a feeling from accomplishing something.

You can't accomplish where you were born, what you look like or a political belief. It's a weak and shallow thinking.

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bass4funkSep. 5 05:28 pm JST

Who exactly are your people? We know you won't spend a penny to defend the US from its enemies abroad.

How is the War in Ukraine beneficial to our National interest?

1) We have enemies.

2) Killing said enemies and making sure they don't have greater access to resources makes it easier to repeat #2.

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 We have enemies.

2) Killing said enemies and making sure they don't have greater access to resources makes it easier to repeat #2.

Are these enemies under your bed too? No, of course not. Your "enemies" are all 1000s of miles from US borders all around the world. America is the only country in history that has to travel halfway around the world to "defend itself."

Yet, America does have enemies. They are within, though, and one of their tactics is to convince gullible citizens that America's enemies are all around the world, so you must give up your economy, your human rights and your money to fight them overseas - or they will be at the border (which is, funnily enough, one of the few places where the invasion of enemies doesn't upset them.) Your leaders get wealthy on your money and foreign blood.

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commanteerToday 04:25 pm JST

 We have enemies.

2) Killing said enemies and making sure they don't have greater access to resources makes it easier to repeat #2.

Are these enemies under your bed too? No, of course not. Your "enemies" are all 1000s of miles from US borders all around the world. America is the only country in history that has to travel halfway around the world to "defend itself."

Europe and dare I say it, Japan, are not 1000s of miles from our enemies. We should have learned from WW1 and WW2 that isolation is not an option.

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Europe and dare I say it, Japan, are not 1000s of miles from our enemies.

Maybe not. But you are.

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There are people, businesses who benefit greatly from war. The rest of us suffer, but they don't seem to care about that. The propaganda machines are working hard these days, fanning the flames of discontent. It's no mystery why nationalism is increasing. It's being created. And it all comes down to money. The greed of a few is going to turn this planet into something like Mars if we don't do something about it.

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Put the blame on governments for rushing to open their countries to speculators instead of bona fide investors who will both give and receive from their favourable business deductions etc. For encouraging mass movement into western countries, sometimes without legal permission and the best attitude that a visa brings and hence people becoming a net drain instead of contributing to their new countries.

Nothing wrong with correct inflows of people into western countries when there's been preparation of medical, social services and housing. But that hasn't happened in my country the USA when 'activists' encourage illegal immigration. The new arrivals need all those services, if they didn't contribute financially to come then they are taking services from people already who have paid or who need them and have more right to them as citizens/residents.

There's also housing crises in just about every western country. Why should people be told to leave their rental housing to make way for new arrivals or why should a country's homeless continue to live in their cars or under bridges while new arrivals are fast tracked into housing?

This is down to ruthless governments and authorities who are implementing agendas that the public are usually unaware of.

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Seems like the nationalists all the over the world(even in my own third world country) is realizing that one country is promoting itself by undermining the economies of other countries, both developed and developing ones.

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