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Would you recommend that people get a flu shot before the onset of winter?

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yes, but it should be covered completely by national insurance. People shouldn't have to pay for it.

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It can't hurt.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

For older people and those with certain conditions (asthma, diabetes and respiratory diseases among others) it is quite important, though not guaranteed to work it is a lot better than nothing.

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Has it been proven that it actually helps? I'm all for vaccination of kids against tbc etc but the flushot, yeah not sure about that.

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No. For especially vulnerable people, it may be a good idea. But for normally healthy people it's an unnecessary risk for questionable benefit. The vaccines provide coverage for only specific viruses, so it's hit and miss at best - though they are very profitable for pharmaceutical companies.

It's most telling that roughly half of all heath care workers do not get vaccinated. And that among those who do, many were required to. If doctors who are exposed to sick patients on a daily basis don't want the vaccine, why should I?

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Sometimes there is no choice.

Often there is no choice but to go to work even if sick, either.

Best cure for flu is rest and fluids in warm bed in your own time, or drastic cooling of body if temperature flairs from 37 to 41 in an hour.

Who has time or recourse to that, in Japan, these days?

Flu-type viruses mutate rapidly, such as the virus at the end of a pandemic is different from the one at its onset. Consequently not a fan of flu vaccines.

Alternatively, stay away from serious flu environments (like the subway)

Or just suck it up and join the vaccination queue with all the other punters.

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I got flu once and my Japanese coworkers were incredulous I didn't go to the hospital to get lots of crap, useless powders and weak medications.

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Definitely recommend it---don't ever get the flu since started getting the shots some years ago.

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I don't think people should get a flu shot at all, aside from very small children and the elderly, because the shots are above and beyond abused, and most people who get them end up with the flu anyway as it's they can't accurately predict what strain it will be.

Aly Rustom: "yes, but it should be covered completely by national insurance. People shouldn't have to pay for it."

Why? Too many people get it as it is. Make it free and it will become epidemic, then when the virus becomes immune to the vaccine another kind of epidemic will occur.

Wash your hands, people, get enough rest.

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I got flu once and my Japanese coworkers were incredulous I didn't go to the hospital to get lots of crap, useless powders and weak medications.

I imagine this was in bizarro world Japan. Here in real Japan, the hospitals have provided me with proper antibiotics and other remedies that work. Competent medical advice and incredible waiting times. I've not seen anything like it.

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Smith, you obviously do not know how immunisation works, the virus can not “become immune to the vaccine”.

Toasted, if you had flu and were given antibiotics then they were wasted, and you are part of the problem with diseases becoming antibiotic resistant. Flu is a virus and antibiotics simply do not work on viral infections.

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Of course people, who can, should be vaccinated. The elderly, kids and people with heart, respiratory and kidney problems should get it for free. Employers should offer free vaccinations for their staff. People caring for an elderly or chronically ill person should get them free.

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The vaccine itself carries no risk and will protect you against the predominant type of flu viruses that year, so yes, immunisation is recommended. For the infirm, it could their lives, for the healthy, it could prevent a couple of weeks of high fever and discomfort.

Of course the chances of getting flu are quite small - most people have never caught it - but it is pretty bad when you do.

Has it been proven that it actually helps? I'm all for vaccination of kids against tbc etc but the flushot, yeah not sure about that.

Yes, it works. There is plenty of data to show its effectiveness. What are you not sure about?

Why? Too many people get it as it is. Make it free and it will become epidemic, then when the virus becomes immune to the vaccine another kind of epidemic will occur.

The prevalence of the flu vaccine has nothing to do with the virus becoming immune - you are confusing it with anti-biotics. The virus mutates naturally every year and those who prepare the virus base it on the prevalent forms each year, although it cannot be 100% successful against all forms.

Here in real Japan, the hospitals have provided me with proper antibiotics and other remedies that work. 

Antibiotics are not going to help you overcome flu. Of course there are some anti-viral medicines, but you are far better off not catching it in the first place. If you do get it, you may not be physically capable of getting to the doctor's.

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NO! The flu shot is a SCAM! The flu shot is a piece of Big Pharma product. It is NOT effective! Wake up, and read the SCIENCE!

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Saying it doesn't protect against all strains so don't get a flu shot is a little bit silly. Why not get it if it still protects against other strains? A lot of research is done to figure out which strains need to be covered for the next year before the vaccines are created. There is zero risk from the shot itself, so just do it.

NO! The flu shot is a SCAM! The flu shot is a piece of Big Pharma product. It is NOT effective! Wake up, and read the SCIENCE!

In the US, insurance companies pay for 100% of flu shot costs and many places give them away for free. Doesn't sound like a 'Big Pharma' money making scheme to me.

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Yes!

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There is zero risk from the shot itself, so just do it.

"Zero-risk" doesn't exist. Anywhere. Anything you introduce to your body carries risks/rewards. This is common sense, and any honest and competent medical practitioner knows it. I am not criticizing those who choose to get flu vaccinations, but at least consider the consequences rather than blindly trusting whatever the media is parroting at the moment.

Some interesting news for those who believe everything the CDC says, by the way...

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/robert-f-kennedy-jr-exposes-widespread-corruption-us-cdc-garry-taylor/

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

I never got the flu shot, but i also never got the flu. Then last year at 37 years old i caught the flu for the very first time. And subsequently infected my wife and child.

My wife had taken the flu shot, yet she got it too... Useless you may say? No, she was back up and healthy after 2 days whereas i felt like death for a full week (apparently if you do get the flu after the vaccine its usually goes away quickly).

But the worst was the fact that i gave it to my daughter; so from this year on, i will be getting the shot. Its funny, people will make fun of anti-vaxxers till the cows come home, but when you ask them if they get the flu shot they will say "ah no, i dont think its effective" or "i dont need it, i just avoid sick people". Dont do it for yourself, do it for the off chance you might pass it onto someone who is too weak to fight it off...

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Ive had the flu 3 times in my 14 years in Japan. Twice I swear it damn near killed me. (The last two times.)

But I still refuse to get the shots. Why? I don't know.

I heard the shots can give you the flu. Maybe thats why.

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@maybeperhapsyes

A lot of people think that, but the flu virus used in vaccines is 100% dead. It is impossible to get the flu from a flu shot.

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@comanteer

who said anything about the CDC? I’ll believe what my doctor tells me though. Getting something as simple as a flu shot is common sense.

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I got my first flu shot in 7 years last year only because I was going to the US to visit my elderly folks but mostly because the strain was particularly bad/contagious at that time.

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@extanker

Thanks bud. In that case I should do it then.

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I’ll believe what my doctor tells me though. Getting something as simple as a flu shot is common sense.

@extanker Then why do so many doctors and health professionals not get the shot? Apparently it's not common sense among actual medical professionals.

The CDC is relevant because much of what people call "common sense" is derived from CDC recommendations that are distributed to the public and media.

I have 2 doctors, one of them quite eminent in his field. They both agree with my assessment. There is nothing common sense about getting a flu shot. It is a highly debated topic.

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Gonna get it done tomorrow.

We all (family) got vaccinated for the past 3 years.

Working at school it might help reduce the risk.

And I agree, it should not be paid with extra money out of your own pocket.

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@commanteer

I don't know what doctors you talk to buy mine tell me to get it. Before that, the Army told me to get it. So I get it. It doesn't cost me anything but a few minutes in a chair at a pharmacy.

The one thing I don't get: the flu.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

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Not everything is a conspiracy.

Not every question of the status quo is a conspiracy theory either. Easy enough to get informed, but I understand that's too much trouble for some. Some of the stuff I stated comes from the head of pharmacology at a world-renowned medical university. But, you can call it a conspiracy theory and believe what the army told you. They would know better, I guess.

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