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sakurasuki
Vaccines in Japan always slow that happened first and second shot, now it happened again during booster shot.
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-japanese-frustrated-at-slow-vaccine-rollout/a-57362649
qazwsx
This Friday for me. No plans for the weekend since I expect I will have side effects as I did after the second shot
Doolittle
Extremely low percentage.
Several more months of raging infections to come.
Eastman
well its simple.
my body-my choice.
let people decide by themselves if they want be vaccinated or not.
purple_depressed_bacon
Only 19%? How...quaint.
virusrex
That is what happens in most parts of the world, but the same as many other personal decisions that affect others (like smoking) there are some consequences of what you decide to do with your body. People always decide by themselves, if someone do not want to deal with those consequences then that is part of the decision.
shogun36
Deja Vu.
Where have we heard and seen this dance before?
and where will we see it again?
why is it like such breaking news for the Japanese government? We just went through all of this 6 months ago.
and it will most likely happen again.
this should be commonplace already.
not some amazing first time event.
Pukey2
letsberealistic:
If that were the case, Hong Kong wouldn't be in such a pickle now. Lots of elderly people in HK chose not to be vaccinated.
Spitfire
Had my third shot the day before yesterday.
Feel super groggy today.
Kobe White Bar Owner
Had 0 shots out of choice.
Feel super every day!
prionking
Looks like more and more Japanese have figured out there is little if any benefit in getting the boosters or even the original shots.
justasking
Infection rate is going down as fast as the booster shots are rising. I wonder why...
Happy Day
I think they're beating a dead horse because there's still no proof of anyone in Japan dying from Omicron. If there is proof, someone please provide details- where, when, age, number of co-morbidities, treatments provided, etc.
Sven Asai
Quite a bit late after omicron even peaked but we had finally the letters in our letterbox yesterday. That percentage will surely increase quickly now after the mailings.
virusrex
How can people "figure out" things that are false? the real reason why people are not getting the boosters is because of completely unnecessary steps are necessary for anybody to get vaccinated, not because people are rejecting the vaccines.
There have been proof since January
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/01/15/national/first-omicron-deaths-japan/
Pretending a well known problem does not exist is just a very transparent effort to deceive people into a false sense of safety, the Japanese goverment have published regularly information about it that includes fatal cases, something that clearly demonstrate your statement as false.
https://www.niid.go.jp/niid/ja/diseases/ka/corona-virus/covid-19.html
theResident
@prionking: Incorrect. Slots have been impossible to find especially for Pfizer until the last two weeks and many were not eligible as per the 6 month spacing here. Over the next two weeks almost my entire workplace and friends have slots either locally or at workplace. When I had my second shot the % in Japan who were fully vaxxed was 20%- so the timing and take up seems all in line. Mine is Friday -3rd Moderna. Can't wait - as of 18th March, I''l be pretty free to travel with minimal hassle. Of course, I know your reply- you don't to travel anywhere or subject yourself to any tests or paperwork. I however would very much like to see family and friends.
Eastman
zichiToday 10:11 am JST
There are no forced vaccinations in Japan.
Yes correct/on paper/however if you work for government its "recommended" to be vaccinated...in other words no way to stay out of crowd.
I am happy to leave all 3 /or how many?/ vaccine shots to others in need and have possible saved some lives...as I wrote above,my body-my choice.
virusrex
This is a valid option, as long as you don't expose others to excess risk because of refusing to be vaccinated, self isolation for example is a valid replacement that allows you to still avoid being a risk for others, without it it is much more likely you cause infections, disease or even deaths than saving anyone's live, specially because in countries like Japan your doses are not going to anybody that would not be vaccinated without it.
theResident
@Eastman - Yep, thanks for your tax money for my shot! Your Body/Your Choice = My Freedom/My Convenience :) Thanks Buddy!
Andy
Doesn't prevent infection or transmission, why bother, we certainly aren't.
theResident
@Andy: (or is it Andriy?) But DOES prevent hospitalisation and being a burden to the Healthcare system - Reduces the risks of Long Covid thereby improving potential quality of life! Why NOT bother! We most certainly are bothered to do our bit!
as_the_crow_flies
That may have been your experience, but it's a mistake to generalise. It's different to mine, but I'm not going to tell anyone 'don't worry about side effects of the booster, there are none.' The important thing is not your reaction to the vaccine (except the risk of anaphylaxis immediately afterwards. Which is why clinics have you stay for 15 minutes), it's the increased risk of serious illness, long-term disability and early death, as well as an increased likelihood of transmitting it to vulnerable people if you are not vaccinated. Nothing with this virus is black and white, so it's better to be accept grey, and living with some uncertainty.
WilliB
virusrex
Like they figure out everything else. That is the nature of free speech. The push to have a ministry of truth to control information with the excuse of protecting people from themselves is scarier than any virus.
We are not children, and I do not want to live in a country like CCP China.
WilliB
virusrex
Are we still harping on this long-debunked talking point? We have known for a long time now that the current vaccines affect yourself, but have NO impact on others.
You are constantly referring to nebulous authorities, however one one wonder if you actually read any of them.
virusrex
According to the best available science you are completely mistaken, vaccines reduce the spreading on the infection for all variants investigated, which means that yes, being vaccinated reduce the risk a person represent for others. You have repeatedly said this is not true, but when asked to provide evidence (specifically that there is no difference between the secondary infections from vaccinated and unvaccinated people) you bring absolutely nothing.
You have been completely unable to bring evidence that contradicts the scientific proof that vaccines reduce transmission, that means you are the one trying desperately to ignore the evidence because it can prove you mistaken.
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.44.2100977
virusrex
That is not what "figure out" means, free speech does not allow the appearance of parallel realities, this is called "making up stuff". Reality is one, and you can figure out things that are real, but when you become convinced of things that can easily be demonstrated as false then you are not figuring out anything, you just became mistaken.
virusrex
Yes it does, not with 100% efficiency, but in medicine nothing does, would people dying after treatment with antibiotics prove that antibiotics do not prevent death by bacterial infection? do people dying every year on traffic accidents prove that seat belts and airbags do not prevent those deaths? obviously this is mistaken.
Raw Beer
Being vaccinated does very little, if anything, to reduce transmission to others.
It's becoming more and more evident that the best approach, as many experts have recommended, is to focus on vaccinating the vulnerable.
Lindsay
So, by this logic the nurses and doctors in the ICU can refuse to treat you because it’s their ICU, their choice.
The booster roll out is a quite slow. People will also need a booster every year. I had my booster (3rd shot) over a month ago
kurisupisu
Even with the booster shot of whatever vaccine Omicron can still be contracted.
However, even for the unvaccinated, the majority of people will not require medical attention.
virusrex
The scientific findings until now clearly contradict you, and since you bring zero evidence to support your personal belief it is simply much more likely you are mistaken and just can't accept it
The experts have repeatedly also said that your suggestion is not only counterproductive but also dangerous and unethical, even if only considering the risk to vulnerable population it is impossible to reduce it without vaccinating the general population as well, that vaccines reduce the risk for everybody is an added bonus that makes it the only rational option.
The important part is that this risk decreases importantly, and also even if infected the person will transmit the disease much less.
Vaccinating reduces this risk even more, including everybody for whom the vaccine is indicated. The "majority" of people would also survive without problems a trip in a car without using seat belts, that does not make it better to do it.
Raw Beer
The scientific findings support what I wrote. I already provided the links to the studies, including studies that showed that the more vaccinated places had higher infections rates. The one one study you provided was weak and rapidly debunked by me and others.
Even Pfizer's CEO said that the "two doses of the vaccine offer very little protection, if any any. And three doses, with booster, offers reasonable protection from hospitalization and death, and less protection against infection".
virusrex
Completely false, as easty to prove as you brought exactly zero reference of it. And specially anything that disproves this
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.44.2100977
Just saying that science supports something you believe does nothing to prove it does, for that you need to provide evidence. You have provided noting, debunked nothing.
You have also repeatedly misrepresented what other people say, which is the reason why is so important for you to bring a reference to prove that your quote is true (and specially relevant, because once a booster becomes the norm there is not point in ignoring its very clear effects on preventing not only infection and transmission but also hospitalizations and deaths).
There is a very strong reason why no scientific or medical institution of the whole world supports what you believe, this is because science has proved it wrong.
didou
Please, stop your propaganda.
My boostered father contaminated my sister. She is younger but had much more symptoms, and 5 hard days.
Vaccine does not reduce the spreading of Omicron. It only reduces the severity of symptoms.
Sanjinosebleed
When the vaccines that are designed for the alpha variant do nothing to stop transmission or severity of the Omicron variant what is the point of getting a booster.
The statistics from NSW shows that there is no difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed (triple or double) for contagion, hospitalisation, or death. Which means the vaccines designed for an old variant aren’t worth the needle they are injected with!
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-surveillance-report-20220223.pdf
virusrex
You are confused, the vaccines and boosters do reduced the transmission efficiently, just not 100% of the time, so your example is not enough to disprove the scientific evidence that cleary inficate it.
As proved by a reference already provided this is mistaken, a booster is enough to importantly reduce transmission, and also infection and complications. Your reference makes no effort to equalize the demographics between groups, so it cant be used to prove vaccinations has or not an effect.
Sanjinosebleed
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/covid-19-surveillance-report-20220223.pdf
Case load: Hospitalisation, ICU, Death
Three or more effective doses 42,529: 554 (1.3%) 60 (0.1%) 72 (0.2%)
Two effective doses 551,898: 6,647 (1.2%) 639 (0.1%) 613 (0.1%)
One effective dose 7,188: 194 (2.7%) 23 (0.3%) 30 (0.4%)
No effective dose 111,769: 1,076 (1.0%) 115 (0.1%) 198 (0.2%)
Likelihood of death for triple vaxxed and Unvaxed exactly the same...well who would have thought.....
Case load Unvaxxed about 15% of total including unvaxxed double and triple which shows there is no significant difference when looking at total vaccinated population of about 85%
The House of cards is falling on top of which studies are now showing the 5-11 years old vaccine is next to useless. Which being the kiddies were never at risk anyway is lucky!
virusrex
The report makes absolutely no effort to equalize the demographics between vaccinated and unvaccinated groups, this is the reason your conclusions about the data remain completely invalid. It is well known that people that remain unvaccinated are a much different population than those that do, and actual professionals say this repeatedly because for comparisons to be valid there is a need to do epidemiological controls between groups. If not you are just observing how two groups that were extremely different before vaccinations (vulnerable people being 20 times as likely to be hospitalized and die compared with healthy young people becoming so protected that now their risk is just the same, a 20 times reduction).
You have failed to produce even one institutions of science or medicine that actually supports your flawed "analysis", obviously this is not because all of them in the whole world are in some kind of conspiracy to hide the truth, it just means you are mistaken.
Sanjinosebleed
virusrexToday 12:44 pm JST
The report makes absolutely no effort to equalize the demographics between vaccinated and unvaccinated group
wow grasping at straws much??!!
game over buddy you don’t have a leg to stand on!
virusrex
An obvious reasons that has been repeated every time you tried to mislead people with your invalid interpretations (and that is also used by the experts that say the same) is not grasping at straws.
That would be much more applicable to someone that faced with perfectly valid criticism that debunks his arguments makes absolutely no effort to defend them and just complains that he must be right just because and that valid criticism of his posture is invalid just because he believes so.
The CDC data demonstrates that people at high risk from COVID become as protected as young and healthy people thanks to vaccination. and instead of representing a huge majority of the patients that get hospitalized and die (as it happened before the vaccines) now become indistinguishable from the population that has always been at low risk. Your own link demonstrates the value of vaccines.
virusrex
I already did, with an study that actually controlled between the populations and found a very strong preventive effect, against which you have produced absolutely nothing. It is there already posted 2 times, it can be done 3 times as well without problem so there is no point in pretending you can't see them.
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.44.2100977
Additionally, if the whole point that debunks your interpretation is that there is no epidemiological control between the grups, making that evident is enough to prove you are wrong, because that is a completely necessary requirement for your invalid interpretation to have any value. As long as the control is not done you are proved wrong.