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2-month-old baby boy dies after car crash in Tochigi

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A two-month-old baby boy has died of injuries received in a traffic accident in Ichikai, Tochigi Prefecture, police said Tuesday.

The child, who has been named as Hiroto Yoshida, was traveling in a small car with his mother Mieko, 34, and sister Ayane, 6, on Monday morning at around 7:40 a.m., TV Asahi reported. The car was hit from the side by a car driven by Kazuhiro Tomita, 31, at an intersection.

Police say the baby, along with his child seat, was thrown from the vehicle, leaving him seriously injured and in an unconscious state. Mieko and Ayane were seriously injured in the crash, sustaining multiple broken bones. Hiroto was taken to hospital for treatment, but doctors say he died in the early hours of Tuesday, TV Asahi reported.

The intersection is in a rural area with no buildings around it. There is no traffic signal or stop sign. Police said visibility was good on Monday morning, TV Asahi reported.

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Don't have kids, so my question to all who do and use child seat properly, can the seat be thrown from the car if it is installed to manf, instructions?

The intersection is in a rural area with no buildings around it.

Ya, but how high was the grass? Intersections in Okinawa have grass 1-1.5meters high before it get's cut sometimes.

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The seat was not put in correctly. You really have to anchor them down right. RIP little guy.

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Must have been one heck of an impact. I am not really surprised the baby seat was launched out of the care cos in Japan they are only fitted by the three point seat belt. The article aslo states 'a small car'. It was probably one of those 'K' cars with the impact strength of an aluminum can. In Oz baby seats have to be set in a four point restraint. Sad article, just the same. I wonder which of these drivers was at fault. Did the mother run the intersection without looking or was the other car speeding?

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There may have been a child seat but was the baby in it? Did the six year old also have one? Or was mom like many here and holding the kid while driving while six year old bops around with no seatbelt? Regardless, a tragedy. I do wish there were more police checks on such things and that parents were ticketed for not buckling their kids up.

Guesses as to one of the drives being on their phone?

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Okay this is definitely about child seats. For quite a long time now there has been debate and concern about not being able to properly install child seats.

If you ever had to set one up then you know exactly how complicated the thing is. Certain seats fit certain cars. If you buy the wrong seat you have to go back to Akachan Honpo or Toys R Us and choose another one. Trying to get the seat belt around the seat itself and the base can be ridiculously hard.

Last week, there was this huge debate about Japanese cars versus American cars. First let me say that this accident could have been avoided if they had NOT bought a Japanese car. Japanese cars do not adequately protect it's passengers. Remember, Japanese car makers are in it for the money. They'll save every dime they can, that includes sacrificing the strength of the car.

Here's the difference between Japanese cars and all other cars. European makers recently came up with the "ISOfix" system which has been proven to be much safer and more reliable when it comes to child safety. The seat itself attaches to the frame of car. There can be no mistake when it comes to the safety of your child.

Japanese child seat makers are 20 years behind the industry. Japanese families sometimes neglect the child seat completely, opting to hold the baby instead. Very uneducated and very unwise. You know that European and American are far superior when it comes to safety. Buying a Japanese car just because it's Japanese is just plain ignorant when a safer model is sitting on the lot across the street.

Notice this article fails to mention what type of cars were involved. They do NOT want to show that it was a Japanese car cause that would turn people off. If that car had been a, lets say a Volvo, with the ISOfix system and SIPS plus a whiplash protection system, that child might still be here today.

In conclusion, anything other than a Japanese car is a safe route to go. Make sure the car has the ISOfix system. Take no chances when you drive, go for the safer car. Not because it's Japanese but because it's your family. How much are you willing to protect your family? Regular Aluminum (Japanese) or Reinforced Steel (Imported)?

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Awful news, and I feel terribly sad for the Mother and big sister. I cant even imagine as a Mother such a thing happening, it is too painful to even think about it.

On the seat issue - those seats are an absolute bugger to fit properly, and even when they are fitted, you have to keep checking them as they seem to work loose. Better than nothing, but only just if it is not fitted properly.

I cannot imagine how the force of any impact could have actually thrown a seat from a car though, if it is buckled in properly. Surely it would be the same as throwing a human adult from the car even though they are bucked in?

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I think this is a child seat/parent neglect/police issue. This has nothing to do with the so called quality of Japanese cars versus western cars. Time and time again I have seen children jumping around the car while mother or father was driving. The point here is that they are rarely "buckled in". What are parents thinking!!! Tmarie makes a good point. There may have been a child seat, but was it properly secured inside the car and was the child actually buckled in it? It simply amazes me that police will spend so much time "harrassing" or stopping people on bicycles, but they turn a blind eye when they see a child or adult in a car with no seatbelt. It turns my stomach. It has been proven around the world, that seatbelts save lives. Parents must be held accountable for securing their kids in the car. It should be noted too that more often than not, parents aren't wearing their seatbelts either. Even if your child is buckled in and you are not, you become a human missile in a high speed crash, and you can end up killing your child as you get thrown around inside the car. Wake up people! Wake up police, and do your job!!!

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i've seen many child seats here in japan which are not even fastened down in any way at all. govt. or someone has to educate these people on the correct usage of the child seats.

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The little girl has a fractured skull and a broken leg, the mother has a fractured pelvis.

NetNinja, your love of anything non-Japanese is well noted. You might want to consider that the kind of person who is in the market for a kei car is not likely to consider an imported heavyweight vehicle as an alternative. Your point is taken, but you're punching the air. You may as well try to sell a tank to someone looking for a bicycle.

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So sad, and preventable. This is the kind of preventable problem that kills, but yet, you've got the keystone cops concentrating on handing out tickets and shaking down anyone and everyone on a bicycle... Absolutely Ludicrous.... It's like they are living on another planet... If the JN Keystones spent 10% of that time ticketing and educating mother's like this for NOT correctly using Child Safety Seats, you wouldn't read about incidents like this... RIP Little guy...

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Well said kaeru. However, there arent enough accidents to bring it to attention in Japan. High speed does not exist except on highways. If u own a car in japan and have insurance, have u ever wondered why u pay so little in insurance conpared to canada where im from? Not many accident claims..

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I just nursed my 2 month old baby a few minutes ago and now I was getting ready to have my lunch. After reading this awful news, my day is completely RUINED.

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Guess if ya have little kids, drive those mommy tank-SUVs.

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Seem to me that what is needed is an international fixed standard for children car seats. I'm just dreaming here, but imagine if all seats and all cars had the same, simple locking procedure and safety features for the child seat. Then training on how to use them could be simple and standard and there would be no learning curve if you switched cars/seats.

Tragic for this family. Hopefully someone will notice and learn and secure their children better.

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NetNinja

I have and use the ISOFIX system in my SUV (British) and can't agree with you more that it is very user friendly and minimizes the possibility of someone installing the child seat incorrectly or not bothering with it at all because it's so difficult or confusing. IMO all auto makers should be required to include the ISOFIX mounts in their rear seats as a standard feature. As simple as they are, the requirement shouldn't add any significant cost to the production price or the stickerprice of the car.

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NetNinja - If that system you mentioned is so good then you can imagine it will get adopted as a rule for any car sold in Europe. If that is the case then Japanese manufacturers will be forced to use it, even if only in the vehicles made for foreign markets. If they implemented the system in Japan you'd still have the task of getting people to believe that they should strap their kids in.

Didn't the UK have a similar problem with seatbelts (or was it drink driving) in the late 80s? People weren't paying attention to the normal ad campaigns so they had a 6-month hard hitting campaign showing footage from actual crashes on TV and shocking people to watch and take note. Result was a huge decrease in the offences (from what I can remember). Japan needs the same IMO. Instead they have a campaign with a cute girl in her late teens in a fisting pose with "whatever it is... DAME!" on the poster and a cuddly mascot and think it's going to change how people think.

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@lostrune2

Guess if ya have little kids, drive those mommy tank-SUVs.

I have a Mazda RX8 which I'm making preparations to get rid off it. I grew tired of how ridiculously expensive is its maintenance. My husband has an Alpha Romeo sedan. I think his car would be strong enough if it comes to full hit accident. There are two baby car-seats in his car and one in mine, which I rarely drive anyway. But they are properly fastened to the seat. I don't have a SUV but I'm really thinking to get one.

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Here's a photo of the car the kids were riding in:

http://news.so-net.ne.jp/article/photo/646150/

It's a "K" car that's clearly not capable of handling any significant side impact. I very stongly suspect though that the child seat was inadequately secured to the vehicle if at all. No matter how strong the impact of the collision was, a child seat that has a seat belt running through it and properly fastened wouldn't just break or tear allowing the entire child seat to be thrown out of the vehicle. Seat belts are specifically designed to remain intact through the worst imaginable collisions and the strongest of forces. That's why you need a belt cutter to cut yourself out of a seat belt if the fastner jams in an accident. Also, the Japanese articles report that the six year-old daughter who was also sitting in the backseat was also thrown out of the vehicle by the impact, which means that she most likely wasn't wearing her seatbelt. As much as I sympathize with the mother for her loss, I hope she goes through the rest of her life wondering if the outcome may have been different had she been responsible enough to not only use a child seat but to use it properly. Also, regardless of who was at fault for the collision, I feel sorry for the other driver and the preventable charge of vehicular manslaughter which he'll most likely face.

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@USNinJapan2

Here's a photo of the car the kids were riding in:

http://news.so-net.ne.jp/article/photo/646150/

It's a "K" car that's clearly not capable of handling any significant side impact. I very stongly suspect though that the child seat was inadequately secured to the vehicle if at all. No matter how strong the impact of the collision was, a child seat that has a seat belt running through it and properly fastened wouldn't just break or tear allowing the entire child seat to be thrown out of the vehicle. Seat belts are specifically designed to remain intact through the worst imaginable collisions and the strongest of forces. That's why you need a belt cutter to cut yourself out of a seat belt if the fastner jams in an accident. Also, the Japanese articles report that the six year-old daughter who was also sitting in the backseat was also thrown out of the vehicle by the impact, which means that she most likely wasn't wearing her seatbelt. As much as I sympathize with the mother for her loss, I hope she goes through the rest of her life wondering if the outcome may have been different had she been responsible enough to not only use a child seat but to use it properly. Also, regardless of who was at fault for the collision, I feel sorry for the other driver and the preventable charge of vehicular manslaughter which he'll most likely face.

Well said, my friend. About she spending the rest of her life wondering?...my sentiments exactly.

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and here is why I won't put my family in a " KEI car". Underweight and under strength. Anchor points are weak and at rural speeds inadequate protection. These cars are banned in many countries as death traps.

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The child seat must've been installed incorrectly, also to throw them from the car would take a lot of force. K cars are definitely weak and I'd hate to be in a crash in one. Japanese cars maybe a little behind but the majority are upto European standards. I'd rather be in my Japanese made buggerlugs mobile than any other if I am hit. The comment about certain seats being for certain cars is only partially correct. The list toys r us works from is which model car the seat head been tested in and warranty/guarantee it covers.

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RIP little one. I hope your sister n mother recover soon.

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A stop sign would have prevented this accident. Many drivers don't sense it when they're on a collision course.

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Unfortunate accident that the mom will never forget. Hope they living recover fully.

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it should be mandatory to have a basic roll cage with side impact bars built into cars. If they were mass produced it would not cost that much for a few steel pipes designed for family cars.

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Very, very sad! Middle of no where Tochigi?? RIP baby boy.

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Poor kid. Poor family.

I feel so fortunate to have so many knowledgeable engineers on this forum who know what the problem was, what could have been done to prevent this tragedy, and most importantly, who is to blame.... all from an article consisting of a few paragraphs.

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RIP, little one. If visibility and what not was good on the morning of, then someone made a mistake. Sadly, it's cost them all.

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Okay, based on the multiple thumbs down I've gotten on my post from NOV. 22, 2011 - 03:32PM JST I take it some people have something against the Isofix child seat attachment system. So what's to dislike? I use it every day and wholeheartedly recommend it. It sure beats messing around with securing a child seat with a seatbelt and a lot stronger and safer. If people know of a downside to it I'd sure like to know...

http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/standards/isofix.htm

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It's very possible that the seat belt was unknowingly released by the other child or a bag or parcel set on top of the latch. I've personally had this happen a few times and always check my kid's car seat. I live in Gunma, and I'm surprised how many moms and dads let their little ones stand freely in a moving vehicle (and sometimes while eating dango or yakitori off of skewers). It's only a matter of time before another little one is going to be ejected from a car.

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I don't much about child seats, but I did find out that some from just a few years ago are now considered substandard. So beware if you buy from the used goods store.

It is impossible to tell if the seat was properly installed. But since the seat was ejected, I would say the impact was so strong that practically anything could have happened. Getting ejected strapped firmly in the seat might have even been the better of two bad options, but luck was not enough on his side. I can only hope he was at least unconcious instantly and all the way up to death. As a father, thinking of how he would have suffered otherwise is making my chest hurt.

An intersection with no stop signs? Why are they even allowed to exist? For all the money our local ward offices fleece us of each year, its just inexcuseable. Every city hall employee who has been in the branch that would put up signs, and the mayor and vice-mayor, should have to pay the medical bills, funeral expenses, replacement of the vehicles, and for a pair of stop signs at that intersection. And I have decided against hanging one from a pole to be erected there. Call me an old softy.

I can imagine that both realized they had no stop sign their way, and figured the other did and would stop. Regardless, I am going to bet that Kazuhiro "Chuck Yeager" Tomita was trying to break the sound barrier, perhaps being late for work. For that reason, the mother may have misjudged his speed or failed to register him as he was in the distance and did not expect a car from that side.

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Japanese Mothers ate quite careless as per my observation. I'm not surprised if the child seat not properly fixed or Mummy Driver cross the roads despite oncoming speeding car. RIP baby.

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Tahoochi:

Well said. From the article, all we know that this was an extremely violent crash. Yet so many people seem to have miraculous knowledge about exactly what went wrong and who is to blame.

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Mabye its a child seat recall or somthing Mabey meikos a drinker like meiko the vocaloid Mabey its not her fault at all and its all the truck drivers fault We can accuse somone without the right information. Something her is definitly off...

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I just nursed my 2 month old baby a few minutes ago and now I was getting ready to have my lunch. After reading this awful news, my day is completely RUINED.

WHY the hell my post was thumbed down 9+ times?! I guess my English must be horrible when people don't get what I really meant. I meant that my day is ruined because a little baby is DEAD. Yes, a baby died in a terrible way that no baby should die, therefore my heart is broken....

People that thumbed me down should be ASHAMED!!!

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defective baby car seat ???? defective belt ? was the baby unstrapped in the car seat ? was the seat securely fastened, ??? did the mother slow down before she came across the intersection, because if I had a baby I would be ALIITLE MORE safety concious passing through intersections ? Did the male driver carelessly speed through the intersection just like everybody does in japan.

Hmmmmmm, let's keep thinking who's at fault or maybe they need to put a stoplight / sign there.

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@BlueWitch I understood what you meant. I don't understand the thumbs down either. You had just spent a lovely time with your child (the same age) and then read the terrible news that another mother had suffered such a tragedy. I'm sure that news hit you hard.

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If the mother is negligent, she will have to live with that for the rest of her life. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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People so sure about the mother's carelessness while saying nothing about the guy don't seem to realize she got T-boned by him at an intersection with no stop signs. Not saying she was not careless, she might have been, but the guy who T-boned her certainly was. I see plenty of info to condemn the guy. I don't see enough to say anything for certain about the mother.

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Not surprising considering most parents here rarely even put their children in child seats or make them wear seat belts its not surprising they don't know how to install the seats properly.

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"The intersection is in a rural area with no buildings around it. There is no traffic signal or stop sign."

this really pissed me off! no stop sign?! no wonder! this poor family has to go through this lose -_- RIP. please recover mother and daughter!

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Tis a sad story, but really it doesn't surprise me.

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I have told my kids that I go no where without seatbelts on. When my oldest was born over 17 years ago, my brother brought me an infant car seat from the States. When I told the nurses at my hospital that moms (in America) arent allowed to check out if they dont have a proper car seat for the baby. They thought that was stupid. It wasnt until over 6 years later - that carseats started to be introduced to the regular public ... And even then 1 seat would run into $300 and much higher costs.

My neighbors and in-laws have told me that I am to strict (including my own husband) when it comes to car safety. I dont allow under 150 cm (5 feet) in the front seat - especially if there are dual airbags. I love my children and tell them that seatbelts are an extention of my arms holding, hugging and protecting them from harm.

One time my neighbor arrived home while I was walking by with a few kids under the age of 10. She had her 4 year old son unbelted in the front seat and her 1 year old was playing in the backseat. The mom of these 2 kids had just driven home from the store a few miles away... My 7 year old asked me why do they get to play in the car and my kids dont? I told him because (putting it bluntly for effect on him) I dont want him to die, if there was a bad accident.

My son then remembered the accident 2 years prior where an older man was driving the wrong way on a one way street then broad sided us. My son was in the center seat of our minivan - where the van had folded in like a V ... Police, ambulance and wrecker personell all were suprised he lived - then shocked when they found out he didnt even have a scratch. It was for 2 reasons, 1) his seatbelt was on while properly using a booster chair and 2) God had to be helping to protect him. Our conversation was in English, so he turns to our neighbor and in Japanese asks her why does she want to kill her kids.... She gave me a dirty look and 5 years later has only recently started to awknowledge me again. But in all those years, I still dont remember ever seeing her kids buckled up.

Dont even get me started about leaving children under age 12 at home alone for hours.....!!!!! No wonder the national average is 0.7 kids per family in Japan ... That may have dropped because that was back in 2000.

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These horrible accidents are just so stupid. Why oh why can we not educate ourselves on the basics of protecting children. My dear Blue Witch do not worry about the thumbs up? down? what ever! just pour your heart out and let us all know how you really feel! Love your children, protect them and give them a hug for me too. Will this get 20 thumbs down??

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This whole comment thread frustrates me. Who cares about what kind of car she drove, or how she installed her child seat, the tragedy here is a two month old baby died. Regardless of all the safety precautions in place or how carefully she drove, her son is gone forever. All you Monday morning quarterbacks out there saying she should have done this, or shouldn't have been driving that are ignoring the simple fact that nothing will bring the poor boy back. Simply express your condolences and stop preaching from your soap box. I cannot imagine the sorrow she must feel right now. Feel free to "thumbs down" me as well.

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JapaHAYn: All you Monday morning quarterbacks

What are you on??? Most are disgusted with the complete lack of common sence and carelessness. If this was an isolated incident your point may be applicible. But since this entire country seems to care less (judged by actions not words) about childrens safety somebody has to say something. Your point is also part of the problem ,everybody sitting around saying "kawaiso desu ne"!!! SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!

What I hope is some good comes out of this tragedy and too many oithers like it! (though my pessimistic and jadded nature tells me otherwise)

If this was made VERY PUBLIC and repeated on all channels as a Public Service Announcement, police made to do their job and enforce seatbelt laws (now that ALL are required to wear them, Japan abput 20 years behind the world on this) and a little public shaming be employed to violaters MAYBE a few less would die or suffer injury.

Its beyond comprehension how cops can feel that a driver not buckled up is a ticketable offense adn yet kids clammering around a moving car is not!

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What am I on @okimike67?

How do you come to the conclusion that there was a lack of common sense or carelessness on anyone's part from reading this article? Your generalization about the ENTIRE country not caring about children's safety is both ignorant and a fallacy. I live in this country. I care more about my child's safety then you could ever imagine. There is a difference between saying "Kawaisou" and saying I feel empathy for your pain. Would you say that at a funeral? I think you are making too many assumptions without enough information.

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JapaHaYn

Your generalization about the ENTIRE country not caring about children's safety is both ignorant and a fallacy.

It is a generalization but it is based on telling observation and far from ignorant or fallacious. Spend just one day driving around in your area of Japan and count how many vehicles you encounter with 1) children aboard aged five and under, 2) child seats for those <6 children, and 3) the children actually restrained in those child seats as required by law. It isn't that all Japanese parents don't care about their children but when it comes to the use of child seats in vehicles an inexcusable majority simply haven't got a clue. The same goes for kids and second hand smoke.

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It is a generalization but it is based on telling observation and far from ignorant or fallacious. Spend just one day driving around in your area of Japan and count how many vehicles you blah blahblah

And yet only 24 (16 and under) died in vehicles FYE October 2011 down from 66 ten years ago.

Above is the "fallacy" JapaHaYN is alluding to. Even if you "observed" from your eyes that Japanese are more careless than back home, statistics say otherwise.

<http://www.e-stat.go.jp/SG1/estat/List.do?lid=000001083905 >

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nigelboy

And what's your point? It's okay to let children ride in vehicles without buckling up or in secured in car seats as long as you drive carefully? I don't know about you but I'm not willing to take that risk no matter how small it may be.

BTW, where'd you get the number 24? According to the link you provided 94 kids under 16 have died in vehicular traffic accidents this year. That's 94 too many IMO and I'd wager that that number would be considerably lower if parents were more responsible regarding seatbelts and child seats.

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And what's your point? It's okay to let children ride in vehicles without buckling up or in secured in car seats as long as you drive carefully? I don't know about you but I'm not willing to take that risk no matter how small it may be.

Never stated so. It's your "observation" that I'm questioning since the numbers don't back it up.

BTW, where'd you get the number 24? According to the link you provided 94 kids under 16 have died in vehicular traffic accidents this year. That's 94 too many IMO and I'd wager that that number would be considerably lower if parents were more responsible regarding seatbelts and child seats

Chart #7. What you did was use Chart #3 in which includes all vehicular accidents (i.e. riding bicycles, walking). Of course, any society should strive for ZERO fatalities but it's clearly evident that your "observation" is not far from ignorance.

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nigelboy

You're right, I had looked at the linked 94 fatalities on chart #3. I'm actually amazed that the fatality rate is as low as 24. But I still don't see how my observation and the generalization that Japanese parent-drivers are in general irresponsible and careless in regards to properly securing their children in vehicles and to upholding the existing seatbelt and childseat laws. I commend them for generally driving carefully/safely, as evident from the low fatality rate, but that does not absolve them of their responsibility to ensure their children are properly protected inside while riding in a vehicle in the event, however unlikely, that they are involved in a crash.Also, the low fatality rate says nothing about how many were INJURED and let's not forget that the purpose of seatbelts and childseats and the laws that mandate them isn't just to prevent death, but also (mmore often and in much larger numbers) prevent injury. The probablity of a fatal crash, as low or high as it may be, should not affect the necessity of the use of proper child restraints in vehicles. No? Do you deny that an unacceptable number of Japanese parents fail to restrain their kids in their cars? Assuming you're in Japan, do you see more kids properly restrained than not on any given day? I don't, and neither do many many others as evident from these threads. Do you think any of those 24 dead kids this year were using a seatbelt or childseat? I bet very few if any. I'd need to see some stats that show a similarly low injury rate for kids riding in vehicles before I reconsider the veracity of my "observation".

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