25 health care workers in Japan suffer anaphylaxis after vaccination

From Mainichi news:

They later experienced symptoms such as nausea, dizziness and headaches, but all have since recovered.

All eight are either allergic to certain foods and medication, or have pre-existing conditions such as asthma and diabetes. An expert panel of the health ministry plans to study the correlation on Friday.

To highlight again what we're talking about here:

*They later experienced symptoms such as nausea, dizziness and headaches,**** but all have since recovered.***

All of them also had some other underlining pre-exiting allergy and the key is all survived.

@VirusRex

you also have to assume the consequences of that decision

If you're talking about personal health consequences, sure. If you mean prohibition from civil activities then it gets discriminatory.

In case of vaccine injury to those coerced into taking vaccines due to fear of inability to participate in society, work, study, etc. will you agree to accept consequences of your decision to coerce them and thus agree to compensate them?

＞All of them recovered after receiving treatment. if they didn't die. A heath worker died after taking the vaccine from subarachnoid hemorrhage.

I'll take the risk of anaphylaxis over Long Covid any day: https://www.businessinsider.com/man-who-thought-virus-disappear-after-election-now-long-covid-2021-3

"This is just the beginning"

No, I am sure that illogical arguments from the howling mob have been around for awhile now.

The vaccine was rushed through and it is gamble taking it.

Because 17 people had anaphalactic shock and recovered?

Those odds are waaaaaaaay better than your odds of long-lasting effects from coronavirus.

17 health care workers in Japan suffer anaphylaxis after vaccination

The vaccine was rushed through and it is gamble taking it. Probably worth it if you are in high-risk group for Corona, otherwise not.

There was a study in JAMA last fall about a treatment that was successful in drastically reducing COVID symptoms and it in a much larger study now. The drug has been around for decades. It is an anti-depressant for $0.60 each pill, fluvoxamine.

As for anaphylaxis with the 2 approved US vaccines with over 7.5M doses administered with each:

During December 14, 2020 through January 18, 2021, a total of 9 943 247 doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and 7 581 429 doses of the Moderna vaccine were reported administered in the US (CDC unpublished data, February 2021). CDC identified 66 case reports received by VAERS that met Brighton Collaboration case definition criteria for anaphylaxis (levels 1, 2 or 3): 47 following Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, for a reporting rate of 4.7 cases/million doses administered, and 19 following Moderna vaccine, for a reporting rate of 2.5 cases/million doses administered.

REF: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776557

I'm more likely to die driving my car to the grocery store.

I wont be receving this vaccine even if it was free.

It’s amazing to see people still defending this shot after warnings like this. Delusional.

No need to fix what's not broken. I won't be taking the shot.

No international travel, no problem.

0.0001% And. Everyone recovered.

Where there is risk there must be choice.

And where is choice there are consequences, you can choose irrationally the higher risk (not vaccinating) if you want, but you also have to assume the consequences of that decision.

Pharma Team: Anaphylaxis Is A Normal Part of Vaccinating Now - Learn to Accept it!!

Now? it has always been, a normal part of every medical intervention from centuries ago, do you think it just began appearing with this vaccine? that is completely false, the same happen with antibiotics, painkillers, during surgery, etc. Anything that is done on thousands and thousands of people is bound to result in allergic reactions on some of them.

MedAlerts.org compiles all the data from VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) which is connected to the CDC and FDA in the USA.

The most important part of using VAERS data (and that you keep trying to hide) is that it HAS to be compared with what happens with the non-vaccinated population.

If for example out of every million people vaccinated 1 person dies it sounds quite bad, but if out of every million people that are not vaccinated 3 die on the same period of time it becomes clear that the vaccine is not producing this problem.

Up until now all important negative side effects from the approved vaccines have been on the same rates as in the non-vaccinated population. The argument is NOT that the problems are insignificant, the argument is that those problems happen in the same probability whether a person is vaccinated or not.

Where there is risk there must be choice.

But what exactly is classified as an anaphylactic shock in Japan, and what e.g. in the states?

Anaphylaxis is an important allergic reaction, but not always becomes shock. People can feel very bad, be full of hives and throw up, making it a full anaphylaxis, but never going into shock or suffocate.

Not exactly, the emphasis should be put on the probability of soon to come more severe outcomes. You can see for example in the U.S. data (VAERS database) what and at what rates can be expected.

Using that example you would expect the usual rates of negative effects observed from non-vaccinated people. That is nice then.

Personally, I recommend two hours of waiting directly observed in the hospital building or if you are accompanied, in your car or at a nearby place. A small risk even then of course still remains anyway.

Sure, find an objective source so your suggestion is not just something that a nameless somebody said on the internet and it will have much more weight.

Nowadays if you have the temerity to question anything about COVID-19 vaccines or the need to take one, you're branded an anti-vaxxer to poison the well. Doesn't matter how many vaccines you've had before or your willingness to consider others in the future based on need or merit.

That is not true, if you criticize vaccines using demonstrably false information, specially if it has been shown a false to you, is when people is called antivaxxer, the number of vaccinations is irrelevant. Because people can become irrational at any point in their lives. This is the criticism for antivaxxers, not that they have a valid medical exception, or that you want one vaccine instead of another, but that they use irrational and false arguments to criticize vaccines (and try to convince others of making the same mistake).

If the dosage for the Pfizer vaccine is the same worldwide, perhaps the smaller body mass of Japanese contributes to the higher adverse reaction rate.

For other adverse reactions it could be related, but for allergic and anaphylactic reactions weight is not a factor, more likely would be the higher sensitivity stimulated by, for example, the Japanese Cedar pollen. Almost half of the population in Japan is allergic to something in some degree, and this can predispose to more important problems.

 But what if you were one of the 17?

From the article: All of them recovered after receiving treatment.

This is why there is a waiting period set up after your get the vaccine, don't just take it and dash off.

Average weight of Japanese:

Male, 138 pounds

Female, 117 pounds

Average weight of Americans:

Male, 198 pounds

Female, 166 pounds

If the dosage for the Pfizer vaccine is the same worldwide, perhaps the smaller body mass of Japanese contributes to the higher adverse reaction rate.

BTW, when I got my second Pfizer shot, the paramedics were called to attend to me. After a day I was better, and am still glad I got vaccinated.

I'm pretty sure that all of this trouble is coming because japan is using the wrong srynges.

insulin syringes shouldn't be allowed for covid-19.

It bears repeating: anaphylaxis is a condition which leads to hospitalization and treatment in a regular hospital bed with readily-available medicines for less than 48 hours. It has not killed anyone, nor does it spread to family members and coworkers. On the other hand, covid-19 is a known killer which jumps easily from person to person and requires special beds at hospitals. It is absolutely more dangerous and harder to treat. Reasonable people who care about family members, co-workers and neighbors should accept the risk of anaphylaxis over contracting covid-19, even if the chance of anaphylaxis is great -- which it is not.

STOP the WHINING, and how about stopping the Vaccination.!!

I think Japan should develop it's own vaccine that matches it's population DNA and stop putting down others vaccine.

Reaction at a rate of 0.16% on a sample size that is not statistically significant for drawing conclusions (tip of the hat to The Resident for reminding me) and ALL of them recovered quickly.

BTW, ANY allergic reaction qualifies as anaphylaxis. that doesn’t make it anaphylactic shock Is your nose runny and are your eyes itchy dilute to to allergy season? Guess what? That’s anaphylaxis.

By way of comparison, your risk of getting infected in the absence of vaccination is several orders of magnitude greater.

No, Vitamins won’t protect you (Sorry Penfold).

And no, didou - heard immunity does not come from mass infection. it comes from mass vaccinations.

But by all means, let’s give the tinfoil hatters more reason to scream about conspiracy.

The nearest comparison to how dumb an idea it is not to get vaccinated is to decide to row a boat across the Pacific because your last flight into Narita had moderate turbulence on approach. it’s just that illogical.

The emphasis should be put on the fact that they are all fine...

Not exactly, the emphasis should be put on the probability of soon to come more severe outcomes. You can see for example in the U.S. data (VAERS database) what and at what rates can be expected. You guess it, it’s the whole spectrum from remaining damages, longtime rehabilitation up to quick death. It can’t be helped, as the vaccinations are more necessary than avoiding those anaphylaxis, but if you query the data I mentioned, you will find at minimum and hopefully agree and implement, that those only 15 minutes waiting time are much too short. This surely has to be increased to 45 minutes plus x. Personally, I recommend two hours of waiting directly observed in the hospital building or if you are accompanied, in your car or at a nearby place. A small risk even then of course still remains anyway.

Get ready for lots of propaganda about the “safe japanese made vaccines” in a few months time.

But Japan is not making any covid vaccine. They will manufacture from a foreign designed one, though. That doesn't count as "made in Japan".

People with known allergies should be careful in taking any vaccine. It's true even for yearly flu vaccine. This shouldn't be a deterrent for others to take the covid one, especially if they have no allergies (like me).

Just say NO to drugs!

give me high doses of vitamin C and vitamin D and my immune system will do the rest

It's worth pointing out that anaphylaxis does not mean anaphylactic shock. (as far as I'm aware).

Anaphylaxis can be serious, but it basically includes a wide range of allergic reactions.

As the article says

 symptoms experienced within five to 30 minutes of receiving a shot include sore throat, hives and difficulty breathing. All of them recovered after receiving treatment.

I have no info, but I wouldn't be surprised if the difference was down to both patients and doctors (though I guess they are the same here) being more sensitive about minor reactions. Pure supposition on my part, but given how oversensitive things here usually are about side effects, I wouldn't be surprised if they were tracking things that just weren't tracked in the UK/US/etc..

(usually going to the doctor here involves getting one set of medicine for the illness, and 3 others to minimize the side effects.. whereas in the UK the doctor would just give you the main medicine).

If they're going to release scary sounding figures then I hope they are clear about the actual reactions that people had.

For example, when the UK started vaccinations it was sometimes mis-reported that 2 medical staff had suffered from anaphylactic shock, whereas I think it was actually anaphylaxis. Not that anaphylaxis can't be serious too.

albaleoToday  04:54 pm JST

Just gives fuel to the anti-vaxxer mob who wish to prevent us to returning to normality.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I like to be informed.

Nowadays if you have the temerity to question anything about COVID-19 vaccines or the need to take one, you're branded an anti-vaxxer to poison the well. Doesn't matter how many vaccines you've had before or your willingness to consider others in the future based on need or merit.

Western COVID-19 vaccines and their makers are above reproach.

But what exactly is classified as an anaphylactic shock in Japan, and what e.g. in the states?

This strikes me as a sensible question. In Japan, a broken toe or finger is a 重傷, usually translated as a "serious injury". The serious/light in Japanese distinction is whether it will take a month to completely heal, not whether it is life-threatening or has a huge impact on mobility.

17 cases out of 107,558 seems quite negligible and safe. But what if you were one of the 17?

theResident

Yes, it's newsworthy in that if you or someone you know had an allergic reaction to a vaccine but weren't told beforehand that others had had the same reaction, you might wish you had been told.

@ AG

> I strongly suggest anyone abroad reading this and planning to travel to Japan in the future to decrease the risk of infection by getting vaccinated prior to flying over.

What are you talking about?

Do you actually live in Japan or is your imagination just too fertile?

All of them recovered after receiving treatment.

I've come under the impression, that in Japan even the smallest reaction, like a rash, counts towards being an allergic reaction/anaphylactic shock

It could also have something to do with the overall size and age difference, diet etc between most EU/US and Japanese health care workers. It would be interesting to know.

Just gives fuel to the anti-vaxxer mob who wish to prevent us to returning to normality.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I like to be informed.

The differences between the US, UK and Japan seem strange. I wonder if the same thing is being reported.

The 5 per one million cases in the US seems different from the numbers reported in the linked article below (from January). That shows that of 1,893,360 vaccinations, there were 4,393 initial adverse reactions of which 175 were examined further as possible severe allergic reactions. Of those, 21 were determined to be anaphylaxis.

The phrase "seem to have suffered anaphylaxis" was used in the article. It's not clear if any further follow up was done.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

Not exactly sure of course but anaphylaxis should have same defintion anywhere, life threatening allergic reaction.

Though I don't have enough knowledge, 17 cases out of 107,558 seems ordinary within the safe range.

Quick search for allergies in Japan says 3% have allergy to pharmaceuticals and 6% food.

17/100000 is .017% i think

Seems like every 2 days there’s news in the japanese media made solely to decrease japanese people’s trust in these “foreign” vaccines.

Get ready for lots of propaganda about the “safe japanese made vaccines” in a few months time.

As I said before Japan will never reach immunity, or will be one of the last developed countries doing so, considering it hasn’t taken any measures in more than a year of pandemic.

I strongly suggest anyone abroad reading this and planning to travel to Japan in the future to decrease the risk of infection by getting vaccinated prior to flying over.

Way too much.

No vaccine needed, herd immunity !

The more interesting part of this story is the admission the variant will take hold in Japan and thus there may be a new wave. The slow roll out of the vaccines will not prevent this if they even work on the variants, yet to be conclusively proven. And pointedly whilst the expert mentions the foreign variants, he doesn’t mention the Japanese variant that apparently came from overseas although it has only been ever identified in Japan. Olympics precludes even experts ever mentioning a Japanese variant.

"17 health care workers in Japan suffer anaphylaxis __after vaccination." ____

____This is just the beginning____

But what exactly is classified as an anaphylactic shock in Japan, and what e.g. in the states?

I've come under the impression, that in Japan even the smallest reaction, like a rash, counts towards being an allergic reaction/anaphylactic shock, whereas in the states/EU you'd really need to have trouble breathing/faint. Anyone with any real facts on this?

Taro Kono told a Diet committee that 17 cases of anaphylaxis, a severe and potentially fatal allergic reaction, have been reported among the 107,558 health care workers who had been inoculated as of Tuesday.

Though I don't have enough knowledge, 17 cases out of 107,558 seems ordinary within the safe range.

This really makes me angry. Just gives fuel to the anti-vaxxer mob who wish to prevent us to returning to normality.

This is one of the reasons they're doing trials.

For me it's good that they are tracking it and reports what happens.

And as a poster above emphasized, everyone recovered.

Just the same as EVERY OTHER VACCINE ever given, peanut eaten, soba noodle slurped.....

Some people, very few it turns out, have an allergy to all kinds of things.

In other news the Pope is still Catholic.

To paraphrase Roger Waters: All in all we are just another lab rat in the mall.

Really. Wow! Amazing to hear this. Well, the Pharma Companies are still conducting research on all of us. The end result will come in a few years. I will be fine since I am not taking THE SHOT.

When there is a proper sample size (as in more than 5 Million people) - THEN, there might be a case for reporting this. This really makes me angry. Just gives fuel to the anti-vaxxer mob who wish to prevent us to returning to normality.

As the article stated: All of them recovered after receiving treatment. The emphasis should be put on the fact that they are all fine and now have a level of protection against the virus that they did not have prior to vaccination.

As the weather warms then cases will fall even more-not much to panic about!

Taro Kono told a Diet committee that 17 cases of anaphylaxis, a severe and potentially fatal allergic reaction, have been reported among the 107,558 health care workers who had been inoculated as of Tuesday.

The rate compares with five cases in every one million doses administered in the United States and 20 cases per million in Britain, though Japan is further behind in its vaccine rollout and it could change as more people receive shots.

Seems worse by a lot, 17/100k compared to .5/100k for the US and 2/100k for the UK

Really - 0.00015 if recipients have had an allergic reaction and this is newsworthy?

This is exactly why there is 15 minute waiting period post shot to monitor people for such reaction.