3 bodies found in apartment in suspected group suicide

It's strange that, in Japanese culture suicide is considered an act of honor, but in western culture it is an act of desperation and selfishness. Which one is right?

No one considers suicide an act of honor these days.

that's why it's hard to stop bullied kids from taking their own lives. It's part of the culture.

I wish Japanese could get the idea of rebounding from failure and starting your life over again.

It's been a while since I've heard of these group charcoal-burner suicides.

Just because you don't hear about them doesn't mean they are not happening. This is Japan with a hundred suicides every day. It would be impossible to report them all.

A few years back hydrogen sulfide suicides were popular ( it still is ) but it is not reported by the press as much as before.

It's sad that people would off themselves rather than ask for help. I guarantee that someone was deeply hurt by their passing. They have my sympathy.

What a sad one. How can a family do such thing? They might be on a really tight situation, but still it is not an option to give up your own life and the lives of your family members.

It's been a while since I've heard of these group charcoal-burner suicides. They became quite common a few years back. I hope there isn't some new website advocating their use again.

Suicide is an act of self murder. It's difficult to figure it out how to prevent someone who wanted to end their own life. Very difficult....

In 1950, 1,312 children between ages 5 and 19 committed suicide. In 1990 the figure was 428. In 2010 it was 514. You have to also take into account the fact that the population was much less back in 1950. It's difficult to tell what percentage of suicides were due to bullying.

Cultural cringe, don't report...it does not happen! These things are a daily occurrence, just don't say it!

the world is trash anyways. they are sleeping and at peace. RIP

They might be on a really tight situation, but still it is not an option to give up your own life and the lives of your family members.

Who are you to say how these people should live or die? They're adults and they decided this is what's best for them. I respect their decision. Rest in peace.

but still it is not an option to give up your own life and the lives of your family members.

Well, obvously it is because they did....

disillusioned-

maybe both are right.

It is considered an act of honor or expression of love here in Japan inasmuch as the suicidist is taking responsibility for some problem even if (perhaps especially if) it is a problem not of their own creation.

This is different from somebody wallowing in their own grief and depression and taking the easy way out by running away and leaving the other (ppl left behind, alive) w/ the sadness of their death, the job of putting they affairs in order, etc. (Altho, to be honest I never understood the "easy way out" description, as it does not seem like something "easy" to do at all. I always figured they must be in pretty dire straits).

Tho the action is the same, in my mind the situations are totally different.

Except that reasons for doing the first one are really not so common today, imo. (Well, I suppose a sarariman who has a lot of debt and can't repay and collectors are going to come and abuse his family, if he can suicide and make it look like an accident, his family will get insurance money, he has save them.) Also, the prevalence of the reasoning of the first reason in Japan leads to excusing a lot of nonsense self-centered suicide like the second one here. imo

Most Japanese do not realize that the evil teachings of Nembutsu teach that taking your life is good, that if you are suffering , do not worry, kill yourself and you will be reborn in the western part of the universe, no more suffering, no more pain, etc... I know it sounds like a bunch of BS, but this is the sad reality that deep, deep in the karma of the average Japanese, has been instilled for hundreds and hundreds of years.