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3 die after car goes into sea after drift racing at Kobe harbor

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Three people died early Monday after their car plunged into the sea at Kobe harbor. Police said that tire skid marks indicate the car was drift racing, TBS reported.

According to police, the car -- with three men and one woman -- went into the sea at about 3 a.m. A witness alerted police.

A 24-year-old man in the front passenger seat got out through a window, but the other two men, aged 24, and a 21-year-old woman, were trapped, police said.

The survivor confirmed to police that they were drifting.

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Drift velocity changes with the weight distribution of the vehicle. A small car is actually harder to drift and thus easier to control when just the driver is present.

Difficulty increases almost exponentially with the load on the tires.

Moral of the story, don't drift with a fully loaded vehicle, (unless you can either swim of fly).

6 ( +8 / -2 )

What's with the lack of information, won't the driver be named ? after all, he's 24 , NOT 14.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Don't drift and drive......****

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Kids... This is one major difference between Asia and the West. Most westerners have got this kind of kiddie stuff out of system, way before they reach 20 yrs old.

In Japan, they are just starting to experiment with drinking, driving, racing and doing crazy stuff, because they never learned that it could kill them.

-9 ( +6 / -14 )

I have no sympathy at all for people goofing around and killing themselves. Problem is bystanders and passengers. Well, if they encourage such idiotic behavior, the same thought applies if thet get killed.

Do it on circuits.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Darwinism weeds out the weak!

3 ( +6 / -3 )

I wonder how early this was on Monday. Was it before sunrise? Drifting (or any kind of motorsports) done anywhere but a closed track is not smart, but doing it on a dock, with a full load of passengers, and in the dark, is just asking for trouble. I feel sympathy for the victims, as they've lost their lives due to this. But please, nobody go repeating their mistakes.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Not sympathy from me here. Simply darwinism at work.

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@Ch1n4Sailor

I disagree... People in their early to mid 20's seem to believe that they are invulnerable and do things like this all of time. A lot kids lose their lives doing street and drag racing in the States every year. This isn't a Japan thing, this is a youth thing.

4 ( +8 / -4 )

maybe they played IntialD and thought it was easy?

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@Ch1n4Sailor

It's pretty obvious that your generalization is ridiculous when you compared "West" to "Asia". There are so many different countries in both categories so it's impossible to bundle them altogether.

In America, one of the western countries, people may not drift as often as Japanese, but instead they participate in armed robbery, drugs, gun violence, oh year, "westeners" are so mature

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

Drifitng always strikes me as a nit of an odd form of motor racing/recreation.

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it happens !!!!!

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ChinaSailor, my guess is that you have never been to Japan, or if you have for way too short of a visit! Japan is full of idiot drivers, drunk drivers, bosozoku motorcycle gang members etc..and this kind of stupid accident happens in Japan all too often, does it make JT every day?? NO! Does it make NHK everyday, NO! Oh the WEST vs EAST?? BS!! I was watching on tv the other day, even in VIETNAM they are trying to be like Japanese bosozoku motorcyle gang members, but in Vietnam they still have those cute Honda Cubs, but let them get more $$$ and they will be on Suzukis or even Harleys in no time??

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

No, Americans don't drift... we don't know how.. we drag race on city streets instead packed full of pedestrians.

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man, drifting with 4 people in a car? that idiot driver must have been showing off to the chick because it's almost impossible to get any real drift with that many people in the car.

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What a shame. I'm sure the local area will dearly miss a few people who drift race.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Even though these were victims of the driver's stupidity or ineptitude, I still think it's tragic.

What a waste.

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There will always be idiots but I wish there were more legal places for people to drift, they need to have open days at tracks etc.

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@gogogo

There are open days at most tracks in Japan. As a matter of fact, there are drifting events at these tracks which you can sign up for. I don't think the lack of open track days is the issue, because there are plenty. The real issue is that these kids made a poor judgment call, and paid the ultimate price for it. No one else was at fault except for them.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

So foolish, so sad - a waste of young lives.

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It is still beyond me how and why the flops let these drifters continue. This time they only killed themselves, but it could have been innocents. Obviously, they are not gonna stop it, so the cops should get behind them and organize drift events to keep these hoons off the public streets. The cops did it in Oz and it works well. They have drag races and you can race against the cops. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!"

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Kids... This is one major difference between Asia and the West. Most westerners have got this kind of kiddie stuff out of system, way before they reach 20 yrs old.

Well you clearly never grew up in a western country then. I can tell you for a fact that people in there 20's (late or early) still do this kind of stuff. Are they idiots, yes. But they still do it. You shouldn't think so lowly of young japanese adults. From my experience they are 10 times better behaved than most western punks kids.

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Drifting started in Japan and spread to the rest of the world. Nothing is as STUPID as the children are wrecking rear wheel drive sports cars across the world. The driver should be charged with professional negligence resulting in death.

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The driver should be charged with professional negligence resulting in death

The driver is dead. I don't think that is going to happen.

wrecking rear wheel drive sports cars across the world

This car is a 4 wheel drive, technically drifting requires a rear wheel drive only car, he was doing donuts thinking he was drifting.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Initial D for Dead

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That is what happens when you stupid stupid and illegal crap.

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YuriOtani

Drifting started in Japan and spread to the rest of the world.

Sorry, but drifting has been a well known racing technique since the early 30's. And on top of that, big kids from all over the world has been doing doughnuts since long before the concept of 'drifting' as a sport became famous in Japan.

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Drifting started in Japan and spread to the rest of the world.

Wrong again Bob! Drifting was often done in dirt racing as well, way before it came to Japan

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Fast & Furious : Kobe Drift

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Why is drift racing more stupid than US football where two teams smash into each other or Ozzie rules or dominoes or just being a couch potato?

They chose to enjoy it and try it and some chose to get in the car and trust the driver, so be it. Bad luck it turned out that way but if F1 were not so dangerous people would not go to see it most likely.

Its their choice and only the participants fell to the sport.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

In this case, it wasn't "drifting", it was more like "sinking".

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Stupid is as Stupid does. The driver gave himself, and his passengers, a death sentence.

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This car is a 4 wheel drive, technically drifting requires a rear wheel drive only car, he was doing donuts thinking he was drifting.

Not necessarily...you can do drifts in AWD cars. People use Skyline GTRs, Subaru Impreza's, and Mitsubishi Evo's (also AWD cars) -Impreza and Evo's are often used on dirt tracks in rally competitions which do a lot of drifting.

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Why couldn't the passengers roll down the windows and escape? More details, please.

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scoobydoo

Why is drift racing more stupid than US football where two teams smash into each other or Ozzie rules or dominoes or just being a couch potato?

Why? Because drifting, when done by amateurs on public roads and facilties, as in this instance, instead of on controlled tracks, has the potential for causing significant damage to property (personal and public) and causing injury or death to bystanders and participants who aren't trained or properly equipped. Quite a lot of daylight between drifting and organized sports, parlor games, or a sedentary lifestyle?

5 ( +5 / -0 )

That's why people should be home asleep at that time.

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Why couldn't the passengers roll down the windows and escape? More details, please.

Power windows + salt water = no windows go down

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Depends on how high the water has risen inside the cab most windows motors are mounted at mid-height.

So open the windows ASAP and hold your breath and swim outside once the cab is full.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Waste of youth due to extreme stupidity. It's a shame only one of them will hopefully learn from the mistake.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Drifting is just a take on Midget racing back in the day in the good ol' U.S.A.!-A foolish way to go in this case!

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SquidBert, drifting is done by American children destroying cars and hurting and killing people. If they did it only on the track it would be one thing. However they do it in parking lots, on the streets and think it is funny endangering people. About the survivor, unless the people were strapped in their seats it is not possible to know who drove. Regular seat belts would not hold them in place.

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Depends on how high the water has risen inside the cab most windows motors are mounted at mid-height.

It's not just the window motors that make the windows go down. You have to consider the battery which would be shorted out the instant that the car touches the salt water because the engine compartment (where the battery is)is completely exposed from the bottom of the car. And being a Subaru owner myself, I know that this particular model has a hood scoop (a hole on the the top of the hood) that allows air (and water) into the engine compartment to cool the intercooler for the turbo.

Secondly, there are switches, fuses, and relays, in between the car battery and the power window motor, all of which can be easily shorted by the salt water.

Lastly, even if all the electronic components were working when the car was in the water, the mechanical force it takes to open a closed window in a car that is submerged underwater would be way too much for the motors or even the mechanical parts to overwhelm and move. If you've even been to a car wash and tried to lower your windows while they were still wet, you'd see how slow it is and how much more work they do compared to when they are dry.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Kobe harbor is very deep.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

I expected stuff like that to happen, it gave me and erky scary feeling when I used to see people doing that.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

That's what you can get when you drift. Influenced by western movies like Tokyo drift har..har..har...

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

To all those talking about stuck windows and salt water, the article mentions the front passenger escaped through the window.

If the car turned upside down as it sank, and if they were wearing seatbelts, then it is possible that the two who didn't make it got disorientated in the cold black water.

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