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Have they done any studies to determine if these bars are where the virus is being spread? Just because the higher demographic in Tokyo are in their 20’s does not mean bars are the hot spots. Japan is not tracing community infections and locking down hot spots. Everything they do in regards to the virus is reactive. It’s too late once hot spots arise. They need to take proactive measure to stop the virus before it spreads.

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Enough with politicians holding up stupid signs.

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Japanese authorities shot themselves in the right foot way back at the start of this, by not putting a tracing program into action. Too many "experts" were twiddling their thumbs trying to make a decision about it and testing, and things went to hell, right quick.

Then they tried implementing one plan, haphazardly, and still they cant get it right and have shot themselves in the other foot, and have in effect, paralyzed the country in decided how to deal with this increase, which they KNEW for months was coming!

Then they came up with "Go to...." and they "gut" shot themselves making things even worse!

Time to implement a "Go To Home" plan, and send money to people who stay at home, follow the guidelines!

Yeah me and the family want to go out and have some fun, but we are sticking it out, because we dont want to catch it, nor give it to anyone else either!

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What would be interesting to see in the future is the financial cost of dribbling out compensation in an endless stream of Yen; (the path they've chosen), vs what the cost would have been to enforce a strict national lock down for two months (the path they almost took in March and April).

I think they're going to be spending a lot more than they would have.

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@spinningplates

They do NOT have the laws in place to enforce a strict lockdown.

The U.K enforced and is yet again enforcing a strict lockdown without much success I should add.

The amount of suicides caused by loss of jobs, anxiety and depression due to COVID19 in Japan is more of a worry than the increase in cases of this virus.

I keep hearing everyone saying we need a strict lockdown.

It won't happen so put a sock in it.

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"what the cost would have been to enforce a strict national lock down for two months (the path they almost took in March and April)."

Would have strict lock down been effective? The evidence suggests otherwise. Germany, France, Italy and host of other countries had strict lock downs this past spring and look at them now. Germany just passed 1 million cases and France and Italy are basket cases.

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Have they done any studies to determine if these bars are where the virus is being spread? Just because the higher demographic in Tokyo are in their 20’s does not mean bars are the hot spots. Japan is not tracing community infections and locking down hot spots. Everything they do in regards to the virus is reactive. It’s too late once hot spots arise. They need to take proactive measure to stop the virus before it spreads.

What do you think they are doing? How is tracing not reactive by nature? Why do you think the number hasn't exploded like other countries? They are doing a better job than you think. They've been tracing infection sources from the start, and yes they have data that a large percent come from these places. Something like 40 percent in my city as of recent info.

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Now the virus can tell the time!

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Should be closing Starbucks, they are everywhere and no temperature checks at all

Our local Hub pub checks everyone's temperature and practices distancing

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I do not think shorter hours is the answer. Just a lot more demand to social distance, wear a super mask, wash your entire body three times a day, no kissing in public anymore, and less people allowed in any enclosed space. Tell me Im wrong and I will see things your way if it makes more sense.

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On Thursday, daily infections reported for Tokyo remained high at 481 cases after it experienced over 500 cases over three straight days last week, rising to as high as 539 on Saturday.

Gotta love how J-media avoids putting these figures into context...the over 500 numbers from last week were on average out of roughly 5000 tests /day whereas yesterdays 481 is out of around 2000 tests. No wonder the LDP daimyos are afraid of what the numbers would look like if they ever started testing at their 60,000 per day " capacity " . ( Never mind the 200,000 tests per day Abe promised on his last day in office ). Safety Japan " tests will be held down as long as the Olympic pork /gravy train remains on the horizon.

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I keep hearing everyone saying we need a strict lockdown.

It won't happen so put a sock in it.

Would have strict lock down been effective? The evidence suggests otherwise. Germany, France, Italy...

Absolutely correct!

And Guys, we are now almost 1 year in this pandemic...did anybody see the End of the World in Japan like many times predicted here from the fear mongering posters?

Me not!

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On Thursday, daily infections reported for Tokyo remained high at 481 cases after it experienced over 500 cases over three straight days last week, rising to as high as 539 on Saturday.

Gotta love how J-media avoids putting these figures into context...the over 500 numbers from last week were on average out of roughly 5000 tests /day whereas yesterdays 481 is out of around 2000 tests. No wonder the LDP daimyos are afraid of what the numbers would look like if they ever started testing at their 60,000 per day " capacity " . ( Never mind the 200,000 tests per day Abe promised on his last day in office ). Safety Japan " tests will be held down as long as the Olympic pork /gravy train remains on the horizon.

exactly! you said it!

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Germany, France, Italy and host of other countries had strict lock downs this past spring and look at them now. Germany just passed 1 million cases and France and Italy are basket cases.

While you are at it, can you tell us how many test Gernany and your so called basket cases perform a day because even an elementary school kids knows you have to test to know cases.

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I am not sure you could pull off a lockdown like Australia did in such a heavily populated country as Japan.

For hard lockdown to be effective you need high levels of coordination on many levels, something which does not exist in Japan.

Even just the fact that the majority of people in Japan use public transport instead of private vehicles would probably render the whole thing impossible to achieve in the same way Australia did, and even Australia will probably be mopping up loose ends until the vaccine arrives.

I think a focus on sensible self protection and mental health is probably the best course of action for Japan as the final months of this whole episode play out.

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what a ridiculous mess, no matter if you are a supporter of full or partial lockdown, specific measures or none, what we can all agree on is that it is a total mess created by a complete incompetent federal government with local governments following that “ lead” . It is what you get when politics are a family business and politicians chosen on the basis of patronism and not competence. If there is such thing as a competent politician of course.

Governors pointing at ministers, and ministers at mayors, mayors at “experts “ and “experts “at doctors.

how dare a city like Tokyo in a country like Japan say that they have only 150 beds for corona patients ? Why do people tolerate such dereliction of duty ? How dare hospitals and their management refuse patients with all kind of excuses to cover up cowardice and mismanagement. One year was not enough to prepare and train nurses ? With the other cities no better. I am a Belgian, the max capacity for covid patience in hospitals is over 5000 for a population of 11 million. Japan has less than 2000.

Above anything else Japan government is letting its people down. Again. And our King and Queen went to hospitals, they don’t just do a video call from the Royal Palace.

on the other hand we do have the most useless and profiteering Embassy’s in the world.

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@BFC, holding up the signs is part of their duty to ensure GOVT. activity

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I am not sure you could pull off a lockdown like Australia did in such a heavily populated country as Japan.

For hard lockdown to be effective you need high levels of coordination on many levels, something which does not exist in Japan.I am not sure you could pull off a lockdown like Australia did in such a heavily populated country as Japan.

For hard lockdown to be effective you need high levels of coordination on many levels, something which does not exist in Japan.

I don't know what you are talking about, China is heavily populated, New York, Paris, London are all heavily populated and there were effective lock downs there.

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Robert Maes

how dare a city like Tokyo in a country like Japan say that they have only 150 beds for corona patients ? Why do people tolerate such dereliction of duty ?

When you choose to look at the bad situation of other countries and you feel good even without doing anything that you are better than other countries and you continue to sit on your laurels feeling good you

have won or are winning an imaginary competition of your making, you will be eventually found out.

Containing this virus is not a competition nor a show for nationalism.

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Yasutoshi Nishimura, the minister in charge of Japan's virus response, noted during a press conference, "We may be looking at another state of emergency" for hard-hit areas if the government panel's virus alert for them is raised to the highest of four levels.

Minister of economic affairs being incharge of the virus response says it all that the gov't is more concerned

about the economy and not the health of the people and that is why after 10 months into this pandemic they

country is still unprepared. If the government doesn't take this virus seriously how do you expect people to ?

Infact the people have done a magnificient job with control against this virus but they can only go as far as they

have gone and it is the government that has failed to step up.

We know the experts are government appointed and have been known to echo the narrative of the government so expecting them to raise the alert to a level requiring SOE.

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A Japanese doctor told me yesterday that he believes Japan does not have the manpower or enough trained and skilled medical people to increase the testing numbers.

In addition a lot of nurses and medical staff have quit or taken early retirements this year on the back of the demands associated with the virus and having elderly family members at home.

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tamanegi

A Japanese doctor told me yesterday that he believes Japan does not have the manpower or enough trained and skilled medical people to increase the testing numbers.

Test are analysised by labs, not by medical staff. There is a 20,000 shortage of doctors.

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Why isn't Tokyo with the highest number of daily cases not doing this? Or temporarily removing themselves from the "Go Spread" campaign?

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A Japanese doctor told me yesterday that he believes Japan does not have the manpower or enough trained and skilled medical people to increase the testing numbers.

That is extremely difficult to believe, we are not talking about millions of daily tests, about 10 to 20 times more is enough to get to the level of countries that actually do a proactive work with the contact tracing. A doctor is not necessary in any of the steps for the testing, from taking the sample to validating the results. That image comes from the influenza testing, but that is because the patients being sampled are those that go the doctor because of their symptoms.

3 days or so is enough to train a lab technician to work properly with RNA samples to avoid degradation and contamination and after the first step of the process is done, the virus is no longer infective so there is no special risk for them. After that, one qRT-PCR machine can process 20 to 30 samples per hour depending of the protocol, 2 shifts of that machine gets you at least 300 results and laboratories with 10 or more machines are not rare because they are used in many other kinds of tests.

At this point there is no excuse for not increasing the test numbers, this is not lack of resources but a decision made from the top.

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Germany, France, Italy and host of other countries had strict lock downs this past spring and look at them now.

Convenient to compare Europe with its free flowing cross border traffic with Japan which is an island that can easily close borders and shut itself off from outside world ( as it did )...Why don,t you compare Japan with other island nations that successfully closed borders & imposed lockdowns such as NZ, Australia, Taiwan....they effectively eliminated the virus and are doing way better than Japan.  Funny how J-govt/media love to bloat about " doing better than many countries" but never acknowledge they also do "worse than many countries " ..pathetic.   Then again it requires decisive and bold "leadership" from the top , not the thumb twiddling, fence sitting oyaji responses on display here.

Germany just passed 1 million cases and France and Italy are basket cases.*

Yes, because they test  hundreds of thousands a day...where are Suga,s and Abe,s respective promises of 60,000 & 200,000 daily tests? As usual just empty LDP hot air "promises". Koko sugoooi.

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What we can all agree on is that it is a total mess created by a complete incompetent federal government with local governments following that “ lead” . It is what you get when politics are a family business and politicians chosen on the basis of patronism and not competence.

Absolutely spot on champion.

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virusex...thanks for the testing procedure insight.

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Mr lucifer, i am the least nationalistic person you can find. Give me another passport and i will take it. If you want to burn my countries flag, i would give you the matches, although in yr case that would be an unnecessary tool.

if you want to call Belgium, France from tomorrow, no problem.

i merely stated facts because i am familiar with them.

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Vaccine doesn't seem to be talked about much here. Had a client (who works at a hospital) act incredulous when I told her a vaccine is coming soon. Not one, but at least 3 different ones. She acted as if I was telling a lie to her face. Pulled up news to show her.

Then I asked if she'd get the vaccine or not (I assumed working in a hospital it'd be mandatory) and she said no because "her boss doesn't want her to get one".

What in the blue hell?

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Governors pointing at ministers, and ministers at mayors, mayors at “experts “ and “experts “at doctors.

My strongest impression is that neither local nor the national government wants to be seen to be responsible for any measures or lack of measures being taken. "We are going to respect the decisions of others" seems to be the strongest message.

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@drlucifer

I don't know what you are talking about, China is heavily populated, New York, Paris, London are all heavily populated and there were effective lock downs there.

We don't really know a lot about China, but media reports about their response looked like what you'd expect from a totalitarian regime: hard lockdown, suppression of information and dissent, blaming everyone but themselves, and then a claim of victory thanks to the CCP's glorious work.

New York: Well, Cuomo ordered thousands of infected people into nursing homes, and the rest is history.

Lockdowns in the UK and continental Europe have had little effect in bringing case numbers under control; if they had, why are case numbers on the rise? But they've had terrible effects on mental health, education, family violence, and on the economies of those countries.

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I think most people missed one of the big reasons for the increase in covid cases. Japan just had a record setting movie opening for the Demon Slayer/Kimetsu no Yaiba movie. Hundreds of thousands of people in movie theatres, with an emotional scene at the end that, by every account I have heard, left many viewers in tears. Cue the lowering of masks and lots of group nose blowing. How have movie theatres not been investigated as a source for spreading covid? The new wave of coronavirus seems to correspond pretty closely with the Demon Slayer opening.

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NihonviewToday  08:12 am JST

"what the cost would have been to enforce a strict national lock down for two months (the path they almost took in March and April)."

Would have strict lock down been effective? The evidence suggests otherwise. Germany, France, Italy and host of other countries had strict lock downs this past spring and look at them now. Germany just passed 1 million cases and France and Italy are basket cases.

Maybe he forgot that in the countries that he mentioned they do hundred thousand of tests per day with populations almost half of Japan.

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what a "approach"...meh no comment

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tamanegi

A Japanese doctor told me yesterday that he believes Japan does not have the manpower or enough trained and skilled medical people to increase the testing numbers.

Nope, there are people in the MHLW who are staunchly against increasing testing that is why

testing hasn't increased. The lack of leadership hasn't helped as well, in any other country the PM or

President would have relieved the minister or the relevant director for not following or implementing policy

but that is not the case here which makes one to believe ramping up of test is just lip service from the PM and

since the media doesn't call out the PM on the pledges made, no progress has been made.

Universities have the equipment and technicians that can analyse pcr tests but due to the strong aversion to

testing the university and private PCR test facilities are not fully utilised.

Japan has the manpower, equipment and financial wealth to perform 500,000 tests a day. As virusrex said taking of the swab is not the job of medical doctors, but strangely here they have made it so super difficult with the constant moaning of how taihen it is or the high risk of infection requiring the expertise of a doctor when it isn't the case.

We are almost one year into this pandemic, it just damn ridiculous to still be talking about lack of testing. There has been ample time to prepare.

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lockdowns worked in Australia and New Zealand

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Robert

Mr lucifer, i am the least nationalistic person you can find. Give me another passport and i will take it. If you want to burn my countries flag, i would give you the matches, although in yr case that would be an unnecessary tool.

You misunderstood me, wasn't referring to you as in you Robert.

I should have used "one" instead of "you"

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A reduction of business hours in these cities. this is a big step to help slow down the spread of this virus. it fills me with confidence and i can rest easily , with the strong knowledge that measures are being taken to keep this virus numbers low in our communities. We have peaked. and the numbers of release later today will certainly confirm what i have stated before.

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@William 77

Maybe he forgot that in the countries that he mentioned they do hundred thousand of tests per day with populations almost half of Japan.

How is the amount of tests related if a lockdown is effective or not???

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Just started to watch Koike’s press conference and stopped after 3 minutes

She was starting to play with board signs, and just announced the city prepared a new poster she was showing.

And reminding once more how we should protect ourselves

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A reduction of business hours in these cities. this is a big step to help slow down the spread of this virus. it fills me with confidence and i can rest easily , with the strong knowledge that measures are being taken to keep this virus numbers low in our communities. We have peaked. and the numbers of release later today will certainly confirm what i have stated before.

Yes, strong measures indeed. As seen in the massive number of tests on Nov 23 in () brackets, yesterday results

Tokyo 481 (2453)

Osaka 326 (1544)

Kanagawa 254 ( 568)

Hokkaido 256 ( 1996)

Aichi 198 (781)

Hyogo 184 (640)

Chiba 82 (291)

Fukuoka 53 (186)

Shizuoka 172 (361)

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Nationwide 2501 (13,378 test)

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@robert maes

150 beds are for patients who need ICU, I.e sont en réanimation .

When they say serious or severe here, it is really severe.

It is a very low number of beds for sure.

I think the total bed capacity for covid patients in Tokyo is 3000 to 5000 beds

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In our little city of 80,000 we have gone from 0-1 cases from Nov7-26, 107 cases. We are quite isolated but now reaching here. Now about 10 cases per day. We need to remind ourselves with safety procedures.

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Oh my how Japan really screwed up....I feel for the elderly and high riskers because this is not going to get any better.

Time for Suga Koike and the other maggot politicians to face up to the fact the Olympics arnt going to happen and getting to the job of sorting this out.

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In my opinion, the government should've ordered all businesses that can transition their operations to remote work to remain that way until the pandemic is completely gone and not just contained. If that system has been in place for the past months, why not keep it that way for longer, as long as things still get done, right? As for those that will still have to work onsite, reduce working hours and enforce strict quarantine control practices. Not an expert nor a qualified person to say much but this is what happens when you start to lax too early.

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Yukijin - I am not sure you could pull off a lockdown like Australia did in such a heavily populated country as Japan.

I'm afraid that is incorrect. Australia only put hard lockdowns on hot spot areas. Most of the hot spots were in major cities that are just as densely populated as Japanese cities.

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A drop in trading hours in these towns. This is a huge step in trying to slow the propagation of this epidemic. It fills me with confidence and I can relax comfortably, with the firm understanding that steps are being taken in our societies to keep the numbers of this virus down.

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Lack of common sense.

Any real figures under the rug, as usual.

Hey Olympic games to host with corresponding (re)venues.

I repeat over and over, how can the number of deaths remain always the same (around 10 a day) while epidemy is spreading obvioulsy ten fold. Magic cure somewhere ?

I know Japanese people are on average in better health but they are very old too, which clearly should have led sooner or latet to some sad strains in some areas.

Please explain so that Europe and USA benefit from that !

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I very much doubt the virus has a special understanding to not bother people after 10pm.

The fatality rate is what matters, not how many cases there are.

The panic needs to end. Enough peoples' livelihoods and mental health has been wrecked already.

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"I know Japanese people are on average in better health but they are very old too, which clearly should have led sooner or latet to some sad strains in some areas."

Better health among the population in general. That is what is holding the virus back, rather than the masks. Which in any case people are putting in their pockets for lunch, touching etc.

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it fills me with confidence and i can rest easily , with the strong knowledge that measures are being taken to keep this virus numbers low in our communities. We have peaked. and the numbers of release later today will certainly confirm what i have stated before.

Lol...yeah Ok then.

with the strong knowledge that measures are being taken to keep this virus numbers low in our communities.

The most effective J-govt measure being taken is reducing the test numbers...that what you mean?

We have peaked

Says he as the numbers keep climbing.

Numbers released today will certainly confirm what I stated before...

Drumroll.....Tokyo,s number today...570..the highest ever.

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@Davelavinder, the UK government enforced a strict lockdown, but as you said it didn't work, the reason for that is we have virtually no police to enforce it, unlike Southern island where my friend lives, she tells me that on most corners, islands, road junctions the police were out in force, they would check your car reg, and if you was not from that village, you was/are pulled over and questioned, unless you had proof, of where you was going and was it really necessary, you are fined on the spot. and they have a very low rate of infection by the way. and this is the same in grace where you was given an allotted time to go to the shops, and if you was caught out you was heavily fined.

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Total shut down of all regions is necessary.

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Nagoya's medical system remains strained, with some 140 of around 150 hospital beds allocated to COVID-19 patients occupied as of Wednesday.

Do people really not examine critically what is written?

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