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No international safety standards?

Please read the comments you are reacting to. I would prefer not to repeat myself a third time.

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Tei Uka

Today 08:08 am JST

It's not because they failed to meet the international safety standards?

> Aside from, as above, there not actually being any "international safety standards" I see no indication to make such an assumption. The analyses they published for this release do not differ from the ones before, and the process does not appear to have changed in any significant way.

No international safety standards?

Weren't they claiming that it's up to international safety standards before?

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It's not because they failed to meet the international safety standards?

Aside from, as above, there not actually being any "international safety standards" I see no indication to make such an assumption. The analyses they published for this release do not differ from the ones before, and the process does not appear to have changed in any significant way.

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Tei Uka

Feb. 27 11:03 pm JST

You can help me understand why Japan is not claiming here that the wastewater discharge is up to international standards anymore

> I'm not entirely sure why it matters what they are not "claiming". But you'd probably have to ask whoever wrote the news article.

> And what are " the standards set by the central government and Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc (TEPCO"

> You seem genuinely surprised that the government sets the discharge limits. They always have, even before the Fukushima disaster, for every power plant.

> As for "the standards set by TEPCO", I read it as the standards they communicated in the lead-up to the discharge. I assume you want to read it as "TEPCO makes their own rules"? If it were like that, why would they be stupid enough to say it out loud?

It's not because they failed to meet the international safety standards?

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You can help me understand why Japan is not claiming here that the wastewater discharge is up to international standards anymore

I'm not entirely sure why it matters what they are not "claiming". But you'd probably have to ask whoever wrote the news article.

And what are " the standards set by the central government and Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc (TEPCO"

You seem genuinely surprised that the government sets the discharge limits. They always have, even before the Fukushima disaster, for every power plant.

As for "the standards set by TEPCO", I read it as the standards they communicated in the lead-up to the discharge. I assume you want to read it as "TEPCO makes their own rules"? If it were like that, why would they be stupid enough to say it out loud?

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And what are " the standards set by the central government and Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc (TEPCO"

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Why stop using "international safety standards"

Because there are no "international safety standards" for water, the term is a shorthand for "safety standards of countries that have safety standards". There are various recommendations and guidelines (e.g. by the WHO), but binding safety standards are and always have been set by the individual governments.

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Seems clear

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So no more check before release

Of course not. The undiluted water is still checked before release. And the diluted water cannot contain what the undiluted water doesn't contain.

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The processed water has been diluted with seawater to one-40th of the concentration permitted under Japanese safety standards

Japanese safety standards

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The move comes after the latest batch of water has been confirmed to meet radioactivity levels within the standards set by the central government and Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc (TEPCO) said Monday.

Set by govt and tepco.

Why stop using "international safety standards"

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From the fourth batch, the operator plans to skip a procedure to put treated water, after it is diluted with seawater, inside a large container to confirm the tritium level as a last-minute check before release.

So no more check before release

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this will be continuous. Nothing they can do for 100's of years

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I want professionals, non-partisans, to be confirming the "facts" TEPCO put out.

The JAEA is doing exactly that.

I am angered and puzzled as to why they would "skip" ANY formalized procedure that they've done for the prior three releases.

Looks like they are replacing a once-per-release test with a once-per-day test. Ostensibly that's an improvement:

"Instead, it will take a sample of the diluted water while it is being discharged, with measurements to the tritium concentration done once daily."

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"According to TEPCO, no abnormal tritium levels have been detected in nearby waters of the ocean following the three previous discharges." -I couldn't care less what TEPCO has to say about anything. To me, they're highly untrustworthy on their own. They've been shown to be serial liars throughout the entire Fukushima fiasco, and they have just been reprimanded by the government (oh the irony!) for failing to contain and properly report a LEAK of toxin-filled water on the grounds around the premises. Any follow-up to those "leaks", by the way? Or has that, too, been Memory Holed for our "piece of mind"? I want professionals, non-partisans, to be confirming the "facts" TEPCO put out. They're monitoring things, to let's hear from THEM, NOT TEPCO, from now on.

"From the fourth batch, the operator plans to skip a procedure to put treated water, after it is diluted with seawater, inside a large container to confirm the tritium level as a last-minute check before release." -I am angered and puzzled as to why they would "skip" ANY formalized procedure that they've done for the prior three releases. It seems miserly, and not entirely focused on providing the MAXIMUM tests for total security and safety. Of course, this will only enrage the neighbors of Japan unduly, (and we've already discussed why their complaints are completely hypocritical, but still.) Why is TEPCO allowed to start "skipping" this final check, suddenly? "Cost" is NOT an acceptable excuse, not after the horrendous costs they've already cost the people of Japan and their reputation for safety for over a decade and more!

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I was wondering when they would start to release again. The last release ended on Nov 20, that's exactly 100 days and around 10,000 tons of newly produced waste water ago -- more than they are releasing now. At the current pace they are too slow to release, they are not making any headway.

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Can they just repipe this straight into Russia?

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Great news!

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A new wave of dead fish ARE coming"... if you are going to criticize at least get you grammar right, unless you are saying that one single dead fish is a "wave".

Oops... I think I am the wrong one... Sorry. My eagerness in trying to refute went ahead of my grammar...

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As other commentators had said, saying that this method is unacceptable and what not is quite easy, but nobody (certainly noone commenting here) is able to provide an "accetable" solution to this problem.

Just think, what is the other option? Keep collecting the contaminated water in tanks? That is not a solution, it just increase the risk and truly is unacceptable.

indigoToday  08:50 am JST

a new wave of dead fish is coming.

"A new wave of dead fish ARE coming"... if you are going to criticize at least get you grammar right, unless you are saying that one single dead fish is a "wave".
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Why are the pipes blue? Is it potable water?

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Good to see this moving along. It needs to happen so that Fukushima Daiichi can be decommissioned.

Despite a few indirectly-related mishaps at the plant recently (which the pro-China/anti-Japan posters constantly cite as spurious "evidence" that those concerned have no idea what they're doing), the operation is going very much to plan.

SanjinosebleedToday 07:01 am JST

Unacceptable!

When are there going to be repercussions for management who are at fault for causing this disaster??

There were/are. The executives faced civil and criminal trials, and they may face more. The entire company also took pay cuts.

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a new wave of dead fish is coming.

https://apnews.com/article/japan-hokkaido-dead-sardines-beach-88003e085359a88cb1135a818c722c05

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The price for Fukushima scallops in America is unchanged. It is $26 a pound or higher in retail markets.

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SanjinosebleedToday  07:01 am JST

Unacceptable!

So many negative comments over the past few months from people against the release but as yet not one person can come up with an alternative. They have no choice but to release this water. They can not keep adding water tanks and filling them to keep forever. So how about when someone intends to make comments such as "Unacceptable" They also give an alternative idea.

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The seabed off of most advanced countries has been used forever as a dumping ground. My hometown of Los Angeles is covered not only with chemicals but actual live munitions from the '40s, '50s and '60s, when they realized pee-peeing where you get your fish sticks from is not a good idea. Fukushima is but a drop in the bucket, and even the most vociferous now will soon forget. In the meantime, I do hope to find some Fukushima seafood bargains at the market.

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Hiromasa tuna and crab will soon decrease in price

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Unacceptable!

When are there going to be repercussions for management who are at fault for causing this disaster??

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Those tainted water will increase demand for sea food from Japan, more and more. At least that what JGovt think.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/08/29/japan/society/china-ban-hokkaido/

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