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6 killed, 2 injured in motorcycle crash in Nara

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Of course you can physically be 3, 4, 5 like when watching a show in a circus.

Any sensible law enforcement makes motorbike a normally one or two seated vehicle. No more.

How many dead in Vietnam or Thailand because of that ?

Japan is not showing any progress to save lives and that hurts me.

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@Mike Wyckoff "By Japanese law, the cops can't actively engage with bikes..."

Interesting... So, the law lets motorcyclists/scooter drivers go on their merry way while bicycle riders get scrutinized ("Excuse me, may I have your name and registration number?"). It seems to me the local police tool around the neighborhoods stopping cyclists and checking their registration number as an excuse to leave the koban and do some light policing. But, if their hands are tied per the law then they can't do diddly squat about motorcyclists/scooter drivers.

Really awful that eight teens decided it would be fun to pile up on motorcycles and go out on a spin. No-license-,-no-problem-,-I-can-drive mentality the very young and oblivious have.

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Lots of bozo types here in north Chiba as well!

And YES the cops need to do more PREVENTATIVE policing rather than simply waiting for things to happen, then get out of their kobans!

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Cops seem to go after easy pickings, such as family guys for the smallest infractions, but leave these roving gangs of hoodlums alone.

I think it should be the other way around.

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By Japanese law, the cops can't actively engage with bikes unless the bike has physically injured someone

I find that very hard to believe given that a pair of coppers had no problems issuing me with a ticket because they didn’t like the way I made a left turn.

There’s more than one way to skin a cat, as your copper acquaintance knows well enough.

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Well, the cops never really do anything about this until post-accident clean-up time.

By Japanese law, the cops can't actively engage with bikes unless the bike has physically injured someone and the police have some sort of physical evidence (video or otherwise). This is coming from a police officer acquaintance of mine. And that is why there was likely no cops following these kids or trying to stop them or any others on the roads. The only thing the police will do is follow and record what the bikers are doing to compile enough evidence to arrest and convict them.

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As more news of this comes out there is a lot less to feel sorry for these kids for -- they were piled up on bikes, apparently, and most were not wearing helmets. They were accidents and deaths waiting to happen, and of course it did. The police should use this as an excuse to crack down on these idiots, but they won't.

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Just watched a news clip about it. It looks like the bikes involved were a mix - one was a motorcycle that I suppose a bosozoku might ride, but another was just a little moped style one.

Its quite tragic for so many young lives to have been lost.

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Have you ever been to Thailand or Vietnam?

I've seen families of four and five on a bike in those countries.

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Jonathan PrinToday  01:26 pm JST

How possible to be 3 on a motorbike ?

Have you ever been to Thailand or Vietnam?

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How possible to be 3 on a motorbike ?

It's not - hence the fatalities.

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How possible to be 3 on a motorbike ?

Anyway, as a parent, I would have never allowed such foolishness to happen to my kids. Japan parents' victims' fault mainly.

I was hearing for most Saturday nights very late at night bosozoku in Chubu . How can it be tolerated ?

Again, Japan is not safe for some. It is highly on general level we agree though.

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Of the six who died, four are... aged between 14 and 18...

Say no more. Case closed.

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Dicking about on bikes = death.

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Bosozoku culture is alive and well in Osaka. These kids are allowed to roll through Umeda in the hundreds.

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Game of chicken perhaps?

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See bosokuso everyday. Feel sorry for them. If they survive, low paid job in the construction industry.

But everybody does crazy things between 14-18 years.

too young to die.

want to say regards to the family. But, why 14 year olds are not in cram school?

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Are they bosozoku? I didn't know they even still existed.

Ugh, where I live you can hear them most nights revving their bikes like halfwits. It's funny that something that is from the 50's is still prevalent on such a level. Still, only in their 20's and lost their lives, such a waste.

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6 dead, 2 injured - hmm, an interesting inversion.

According to a witness, the bikers and several motorcycles were found lying on the road shortly after they ran a red light, the police said

Lots of speculative implications can be drawn from this: bozos and so on.

Yeah, another example of there not being any laws in Japan until one is applied, or until one is broken and something happens where someone has to be accountable publicly.

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Well, the cops never really do anything about this until post-accident clean-up time.

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What's the bet it was a bunch of Bosozoku speeding and swerving all over the road (as they do) and one of them lost it, which cleaned up all the others? I'll also put money on most of the deaths were from head injuries coz they never do up the strap on the helmets - if they wear them at all.

Yeah, I'd bet on this. I think the Bosozoku cleared out of Shinjuku when the government moved there.

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Jeeze - how terrible!!

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Just checked a few other news sites. There were 8 people riding on only 3 bikes... definitely some foolishness going on. I hope the 2 that survive can shed some light on this.

RIP

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Are they bosozoku? I didn't know they even still existed. They have completely disappeared from Shinjuku. I frequently saw them when I was a kid in the 80s.

They are still quite prevalent, especially in rural areas. But the style of Bosozoku has changed considerably. Not so much as gangs anymore, but more along the lines that they just want to be loud and obnoxious and break the rules.

@Everyone who says it was a red light accident.

Its an elevated bypass, as you can clearly see by the picture. There arent any red lights in that area. They were seen by some witnesses AFTER they also happened to run a red light a bit before.

As a motorcyclist myself, stereotyping us like they do in the US and Britain as rule-breakers doesn't help anyone. Something happened, couldve been they were in formation and there was a pothole they didnt see, etc. Lets not jump to conclusions that an accident occurred because they were "bosozoku"

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Are they bosozoku? I didn't know they even still existed. They have completely disappeared from Shinjuku. I frequently saw them when I was a kid in the 80s.

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This was on Route 24 which is one of the biggest roads in Nara. At night, there a lot of bike/scooter kids all of which have 2-3 riding on them. I heard the accident only involved 2 bikes mainly which means 3 people were on each of them. Time for Nara Police to stop taking a nonchalant attitude towards these bike gangs. I see them everyday living here and nothing is ever done.

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What's the bet it was a bunch of Bosozoku speeding and swerving all over the road (as they do) and one of them lost it, which cleaned up all the others? I'll also put money on most of the deaths were from head injuries coz they never do up the strap on the helmets - if they wear them at all.

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Frequently see gangs of motorcyclists in Kanagawa at night in groups of between 5 to 100 bikes; running red lights, swerving in front of cars, slowing traffic to a crawl, speeding off, and revving their little engines.

You'll also see the police snug in their boxes, doing absolutely nothing; or maybe a pair of them checking a bicycle licence as they go past.

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Not enough detail to say much except that this is a horrible tragedy.

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Of course I've no clue what actually happened..... but considering the way in which the Japanese are allowed to run Red Lights... well into the actual Red Light, my guess is that either the lead cycle didn't see the Red Light or he / she, went through it well after it turned knowingly. My condolences to the families.

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Wow how awful. May they RIP.

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