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I would love to know how this transgression came to light. I haven’t been able to find any explanation in Japanese news sources either.

What upsets me is that companies like this must know that they are abusing the employment rights of these vulnerable foreign workers, but these companies only make changes when they are caught.

27 ( +37 / -10 )

The company acknowledged that it has caused inconvenience and concern to the foreign workers. It also promised to prevent similar incidents from occurring in the future.

This is wage theft and a crime and it is a crime against society that such weasel words pass for a Get Out of Jail Free card for this while filching an item of less than 200 yen can land one in jail.

I myself suffered similar wage theft when a shadow investor absconded with the payroll to set up his own IT consulting firm across town.

You find out that legal recourse is little and in the end paying people for their labor is done at the whim of owners . And they are backed by the political and legal infrastructure.

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It is the tolerance, acceptance, and the excuses, not to mention the Justification of this abuse by people/company/ politicians and legal systems, that will eventually lead to some unrest. Small individual cases mean nothing but over the decades to come, the people won’t forget as each individual case is accumulated in the immigrants mind, fueling angst, at how companies find an excuse to justify their own discrimination. What really hits hard is the abuse of power, as nobody wants to be the troublemaker and get fired, many of them probably couldn’t walk away, maybe their language skills aren’t up to it. We will more and more of these cases in the future. Especially when the Japanese thinks it’s ok to discriminate against all foreigners “equally”. Since they say the constitution isn’t for foreigners only all Japanese must be treated equally.

-7 ( +24 / -31 )

Imagine something like this happening in another "civilized" country. The government would immediately cease all of the Company assets and force it to pay extremely huge fines also compensation to the workers. Furthermore, if the workers decided to sue (impossible in Japan), another set of huge compensation would be received by them.

In Japan? Business as usual. Maybe, just maybe a symbolic fee of a couple huntred thousand Yen, and all good.

-17 ( +24 / -41 )

Not just Vietnamese- Anyone remember around 15 years ago the debacle with Nova not paying their teachers? Another Eikaiwa called Howdy Howdy in Shibuya and the chain GEOS did the same thing with their presidents both fleeing to Switzerland.

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I didn’t know working at assembly lines of a confectionary factory was a skilled job. Being left on standby without pay for two and a half months is horrible but the company says it’s going to pay compensation. It’s about time foreign workers realized that Japan is not their promised land.

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Japanese confectionery maker Chateraise Co

Shall be boycotting this disgusting company. Urge others to do the same.

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The company acknowledged that it has caused inconvenience and concern to the foreign workers. It also promised to prevent similar incidents from occurring in the future.

How is rent paid, food bought and a myriad of other needs provided for without money?

This company needs to be censured as the directors have acted unconscionably!

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On this topic of discrimination against foreign workers, I have seen a clause preventing the “purchase of any form of land, private housing, or commercial property in Japan” in a 2024 employment contract of a foreign employee at a “white” Japanese company, where working conditions and benefits for employees are supposed to be better than average.

Very concerned about the path such companies are choosing to take.

21 ( +28 / -7 )

""The company acknowledged that it has caused inconvenience and concern to the foreign workers. It also promised to prevent similar incidents from occurring in the future.""

Glad the company acknowledged, good luck for everyone.

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Shall be boycotting this disgusting company. Urge others to do the same.

My wife and her mother both have bought many times from them, but I’m going to ask them not to after this.

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More than 80 Vietnamese who signed contracts to work for Japanese confectionery maker were left on standby without pay for about 2 1/2 months, the company said Saturday.

If these were happens to person with Japanese Nationalities or foreigners with regular working visa, those people easily left that company and try to find another one.

However if those Vietnamese just go away and find other company to support them, they'll be considered illegal.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Japan-immigration/Japan-can-t-locate-12-000-foreign-workers-in-troubled-intern-program

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Why they can't change the job easily? Ask JGovt regulation that make that happen. So they just need to face any kind terrible job condition or even terrible pay.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Japan-immigration/Japan-moves-to-let-foreign-workers-change-jobs-under-new-trainee-program

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15067195

-10 ( +9 / -19 )

Since when is making sweets considered a skill? Turn on the machine and pump them out.

-21 ( +3 / -24 )

Since when is making sweets considered a skill?

Can you make sweets? If it's unskilled work, I'm sure you can, even without training.

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How did they survive without pay for 2 months. A lot of that money was probably meant to be sent to families in Vietnam who were waiting for it to do things like buy food. In the end they were the ones though that probably had to send the money to help their starving family members in Japan. I went into Chateraise recently and it was full of fat Japanese women salivating over the cream, cakes and chocolates and none of the workers were Japanese. I see the pachinko parlours in the day are always full and I see cheap SE Asian labour scurrying around early in the morning on bikes on their way to work in the factories. Such an elitist, decadent, apartheid oriented country. Seems their WW2 mindset has not changed. Anyways while I am here big shout out to the Nepalese workers. Amazing service and it's as if they are a bridge between Europe and Asia

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Japanese confectionery maker Chateraise Co

They do make some exceedingly good cakes and ice cream. And I should know!

Their White mint choco bakkie ice is fantastic.

-11 ( +3 / -14 )

If it's unskilled work, I'm sure you can, even without training.

I would need about an hour's training. There are 88 workers. A medium-size factory doesn't need that many "skilled" workers. Anyway, I'm guessing that most if not all the engineers, chemists, equipment technicians and financial staff are Japanese, not Vietnamese.

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Sad to hear about Chateraise's treatment of foreign workers. I like Chateraise's ice creams. It's a splurge I don't need.

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Châteraisé or Chateraise?

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I have seen a clause preventing the “purchase of any form of land, private housing, or commercial property in Japan” in a 2024 employment contract of a foreign employee at a “white” Japanese company,

Just because it's in the contract doesn't make it enforceable. This section about buying land would breach personal freedoms. I bet it could be easily challenged.

Some of the rubbish I have seen in contracts boggles the mind.

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The ALT subcontractors are just as bad. Gave my GF a full time contract for the first year to fulfill the visa requirements then shift her onto what is basically a zero-hours contract for the second year.

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MeiyouwentiToday 07:41 am JST

It’s about time foreign workers realized that Japan is not their promised land.

Well, prepare yourself to do their job.

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MeiyouwentiToday 07:41 am JST

It’s about time foreign workers realized that Japan is not their promised land.

Well, prepare yourself to do their job.

-4 ( +5 / -9 )

You would think The Japanese would have learned by now that you can’t go around screwing foreigners and the help that so many Japanese companies depend on.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

I am very sad to read these news regarding the exploitation of Vietnamese workers but at the same time I am glad to see that this became public news and so, it is a way to denounce this type of human rights violation. Hope that the irresponsible top executives that let this happen receive a proper punishment and all workers receive a proper reimbursement plus some moral damages amount.

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There are so many unemployed Japanese people and that includes elderly who wish to work and have the ability to work but they are ignored due to their age. Shame on this company hiring foreigners and not Japanese people and why because they have to pay a few hundred yen more.

I would buy made in Japan products because of the high standards set by Japanese workers, however, not anymore.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

This kind of thing happens way too often in Japan. There need to be severe punishments in the books to prevent such companies from taking advantage of foreigners and abusing them.

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This is disappointing and the company should pay up. Promising people work and not providing it sounds like "naitei torikeshi" in Japanese. This is usually illegal and the workers deserve compensation.

There are so many unemployed Japanese people and that includes elderly who wish to work and have the ability to work but they are ignored due to their age.

This is in Kofu in Yamanashi. Its countryside, so there won't be lots of young people. I have actually visited a Chateraise factory in Hakushu, they do tours, and we were told they run the plant we went to 24 hours a day at busy times. I doubt many locals with pensions would up for getting their top-up income from night shifts. I get my Japanese pension in 2033 but have zero intention of working night shifts when it happens.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

It seems like it’s legally acceptable not to pay to the foreign workers even when they have contract. I don’t any consequence for the company.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Japanese society has tendency that respect european or american but disrespect asian besides Japanese.

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

just boycott these "french named" business products.let them learn it in hard way.

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OK, the scenario given doesn't seem to justify opprobrium. There's no sign that the intention of the company was anything other than to have the factories be ready on time. But they weren't, and this won't be the first or last project that ran late.

At the very least, it's hard to think of it as wage theft. The involved Vietnamese did not work. On principle, those are labor contracts, so the worker doesn't have to produce results other than as the natural result of him working, but he has to work, and they didn't. That wasn't their fault - they were presumably prepared to work. But neither is it necessarily the company's fault for them not being able to work. Which leaves undisputed only the fact they did not work.

As a company with a commercial (profit-making purpose), it's only natural to first explore the route of not paying people who ended up spending their day playing mobile games. There's already a significant loss in money earnings thanks to the delays, and paying people that didn't even work would just add to the losses.

Besides, in the end, the company chose to pay up. Either because the balance of the law demanded it, or for humanistic considerations. I don't see the reason for opprobrium here.

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Besides, in the end, the company chose to pay up. Either because the balance of the law demanded it, or for humanistic considerations. I don't see the reason for opprobrium here.

No they didn't

They were caught abusing their responsibility as employer and forced to be held accountable

You can't see the reason because your Japanese and they are foreigners

Time to accept its 2024 and japan is cruel to foreigners

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

Mr Goodman

Today 08:48 pm JST

Besides, in the end, the company chose to pay up. Either because the balance of the law demanded it, or for humanistic considerations. I don't see the reason for opprobrium here.

> No they didn't

> They were caught abusing their responsibility as employer and forced to be held accountable

> You can't see the reason because your Japanese and they are foreigners

> Time to accept its 2024 and japan is cruel to foreigners

If they were indeed caught abusing employees and held accountable then everyone will see the reason.

Would be good if you could share the source where you learned of the details to us so we could be righteously outraged also

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

Kohabesu, I have 2 elderly friends who are a couple both receiving their tiny pension and in their 70's who are still working. She works as a part-time English teacher and other part-time jobs, and he works as a night security guard making 1,100 yen an hour and he is suffering from cancer and other health conditions as is she. Their health care each is over 40,000 yen a month, plus their other bills and they struggle to make them and eat. So, unless you have a healthy amount of money stashed away, do not think your pension is going to sustain you during your old age and that is why there are so many elderly homeless people these days.

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tigerjane

Their health care each is over 40,000 yen a month, plus their other bills and they struggle to make them and eat.

There is a limit to medical costs for retired people. 70 years 20% charge. 75 10% charge. Maximum outpatient charge per month ¥12,000. Maximum hospital stay ¥36,000 per month.

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The older people get the higher the monthly costs go up for their health care cards and it really jumps up when they turn 70 and this is a fact. I have another friend who will turn 70 next month and her health care premiums will jump up to that 40-thousand-yen mark. Her husband is in his late 60's and is a taxi driver and it is his hope to retire in 2 years from now if his aching body can hold up. She is also working, however, not as much as she once did.

Japan is a young person's country and not for the elderly unlike once upon a time ago where there were 2 family households under one roof and where everyone was working and contributing.

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At least they will keep working...

It's way better that what they had in Vietnam..

Move on and keep working..

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

Chateraise sells ice cream for very cheap. It's probably the cheapest ice cream in Japan. But now we know why their ice cream is so cheap.

This company exploits foreign workers.

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Good on JapanToday for reporting this, as the main stream Japanese media seemed to have "missed" this story. I hope this brings light to any similar situations for anyone in this Foreign workers visa program. I am grateful to anyone who decided to come to Japan to live and work.

I hope they get sorted out by Chateraise, if not , I hope their voices are heard and they get help from somewhere. Cause The Japanese Government probably will not help...

There are so many cases of the Foreign Visa permit workers getting screwed by their employers. If the Japanese government doesn't help, their embassies should do something.

This is so horrible. It's 2024, This shouldn't be happening.

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@TokyoLiving

At least they will keep working...

It's way better that what they had in Vietnam..

Move on and keep working..

Let me remind you that there's no recession both in Japan and Vietnam, and those people are still young. That make them really easy to find another job. However their visa won't allow them to change job to different company, and that being set by JGovt. So think again, who the one that really cut opportunities from those workers. Obviously there are other companies that willing to accept hardworker Vietnamesser worker to work in that place

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It's way better that what they had in Vietnam..

Not necessarily, they are young and can be easily deceived by their agent to work abroad. They might still have better work in their country if they really looking.

https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/features/20240410/weakening-yen-makes-life-difficult-for-vietnamese-in-japan/79264.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-09/weak-yen-unravels-japan-s-quest-for-foreign-workers

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