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© Thomson Reuters 2020.Abe urges 2-week curb on big events to stem coronavirus spread
By Sakura Murakami and Rocky Swift TOKYO©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Chip Star
"We know that those types of surgical masks are important to prevent transmission from someone with infection to other people, and that's pretty routine practice for infections that are spread by respiratory droplets like viruses," Dr. Jeffrey D. Klausner, professor of medicine and public health at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA, told Yahoo Finance during a January interview.
*"However, there is no data to suggest that in people who are not infected that they provide any protection to prevent infection, to prevent exposure in terms of the typical surgical type mask," he added.*
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/cornoavirus-mask-protection-195815084.html
Chip Star
That should be a hand washing station instead of a dust mask distribution station.
rgcivilian1
This virus is a contagion and hence spreading a lot faster than just airborne in proximity of 1 meter radius. Recommend the use of gloves and proper removal during change and disposal.
fillmore2
Hey,
you got mask guy and New York Times guy here. Is this part of this story ? I thought the story is 2 weeks curb
Garthgoyle
Dentsu has their employees officially working from home as they found one person in the building have tested positive for the virus.
Akie
Mr Kipling said "3,400 influenza deaths last year in Japan". Are you sure ?
Mr Kipling
Thats now 5 deaths (all over 80 years old) in a population of 123,000,000
3,400 influenza deaths last year in Japan. But, influenza isn’t new and didn’t come from China.
Akie
PM of Japan needs to make a decision. The focus should be the Olympics, everything has to be done to make sure that event will not be canceled.
Alfie Noakes
I remembered about three seconds after I posted.
Koichi Nakano's article really hits the nail on the head: modern politicians just don't give a toss about the people they're supposed to represent. Not one toss is given.
didou
The building in Marunouchi is
Shin Marunouchi Building
It is on the J-news
John Richardson
Is that the entrance of their fashion show and catwalk? That style has been going on for quite sometime now. Hell, from what I can recall, its been over 15 years now!
smithinjapan
South Korea has had more than 40,000 people tested, while Japan has had a mere 5,700 tests carried out TOTAL, and the government is still trying to come up with a plan to "prevent an outbreak" in Japan. It's like they all woke up this morning in government and thought it was two months ago! But NOW they are truly panicking as they realize a virus doesn't stop with their snail's pace of politics. Hospitals are literally turning away people who want to get tested, and the priority here is on impact on the economy, the Olympics, cancelling OTHER events and things like concerts and graduation, but very little to nothing is doing about people commuting or going to work besides "suggesting" companies think about it, etc. Abe got TOASTED by the opposition in the DIET today, and all he can the health minister could do is say, "We're working on plans for the health of the people," etc. What a joke. I hope the Olympics are taken away. Watching Koike say, "The opinion of the IOC is not the official position, and we want to go ahead as planned" while everything else is cancelled, but they should be cancelled if Japan is serious about health.
dk9000
I'm not familiar with those online forums so maybe I'm missing out, but my impression living here is that the majority of Japanese people live in a rather confined Japanese-language media bubble and wouldn't be able to read the New York Times even if they cared to do so.
This article was written by Koichi Nakano though, a professor of political science at Sophia University in Tokyo. I wonder if he has much of a voice within the Japanese media - he really should.
kokontozai
Ah so
I am very sorry. I have no intention to get you angry. If you read the comments in 5ch, you can find a lot of critisism of NYT, easily. But I admit they may be supporters of the government.
Ah_so
Source? I have never met a single Japanese person who has stated this to me. Admittedly I have never asked them this question directly, but I haven't asked them about other papers either.
kokontozai
blahblah222
I was very surprised that diagnosis tests are not so reliable based on an interview with a Japanese specialist. She said it was because the quantity of new virus is very little, comparing with normal flu. I always hope foreigners can read the news of Japanese language. Otherwise, the Japanese government should send messages translated into English as much as possible.
kokontozai
dk9000
Very, very unfortunately, many Japanese distrust NYT as well as the supporers of President Trump, because they believe NYT often provides fake news or one side opinion.
blahblah222
Japanese government is blocking diagnosis tests. Doctors cannot get their patients tested, and patients therefore cannot be treated.
Tests are only for people with severe pneumonia who needs hospitalization, by that time any intervention or anti-virals will be too late. Furthermore, by making diagnosis tests so restrictive, it would be impossible to identify super spreading events like the one occurred in South Korea.
Based on the current diagnosis rules, Japan will likely see much higher case fatality rate than other countries, perhaps over 10% as the medical interventions will occur too late for most people.
Hokkaidoboy
Abe has been piling up pressure from all kind of scandals. The healthiest thing for the Japan and Abe himself would be him stepping aside.
DaDude
Well if you aren't happy about the government is doing by taking away your money, sell masks on the internet.
savethegaijin
My daughter's school cancelled all activities outside of the actual school day until graduation. They also are sending all of their daily goods home every day for washing and sanitizing (opposed to once a week) and are not going to allow parents/guests onto the school grounds outside of picking up the kids. This suddenly feels a lot more real. If they cancel the graduation I'll not only be shocked, I'll know that the situation has gotten serious. They also require the children to wear disposable masks every day (and to send a backup if you can) which is good, but I haven't seen a mask for sale in over a week... I imagine if you don't have backup stock (thank goodness we do) that could get hard. One of her classmates has 3 siblings, imagine trying to produce 30-40 children's masks a week just to go to school. The last I could find were over a week ago and it was 550 yen for 6 masks. Tough.
dk9000
I wish everyone in Japan could read the article posted in the New York Times today. It's the ultimate breakdown of Abe's & co.'s incompetence. I suspect that if this were South Korea, Hong Kong, or any nation where the media speaks freely and where the value of confrontation-avoidance was not ingrained as much as it is here, people would be protesting in the streets by now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-japan-abe.html
Lenlen
I’m working on the events For now my calendar for March is empty..... Got a phone today that they cancelled another event and here we are, I’m jobless for 1,5 month and probably more....
But of course schools and COMPANIES are still working... Isn’t that wrong? If you don’t stop the whole country cancelling only part of events MEANS NOTHING.
I guess Abe will pay my bills and rent?
TARA TAN KITAOKA
Everything starts from the gov't. When they are still keeping secrets, nothing will change to help its citizens.
Japan have to change, if not, even the whole diet will be affected by corona virus. But it maybe a good thing
on the other hand as we can have a new goverment if 50% of the diet is wipe out. This is japan is no more an excuse.
didou
And what will happen after two weeks ?
It is a strategy for only slowing the spread.
The virus will still be around and the risk of infection too. The only way to stop it would be to stop all activities and closing borders for 1 month. Impossible.
I still do not understand why outdoors events are cancelled and all that hysteria. The risk is still very low at that time, much less than catching the flu or winning the loto.
MarkX
Also, on this Wide show this one professor was saying the reason that Japan has done so few tests has nothing to do with the kits needed, but that the Abe government is only allowing a small number of facilities to do the tests. Which means there are huge backlogs. If it was opened up to private companies and groups more and more people could be tested and a real number of carriers would be known.
Not surprising to hear this at all. I wonder which of Abe's friends control the testing of these test kits! I know that sounds so terrible, but I wouldn't put anything past this LDP group.
jeancolmar
Nice Photo.
Thank you, Masked Man.
BertieWooster
Maybe this will teach Abe and his friends and relations that there is more to government than drawing a fat paycheck. In fact, it looks like the silver lining might be the disappearance of fat cat politicians like Abe and crew and Xi in China.
Yubaru
Right, so in the interest of public safety you refuse to share the information right?
Alfie Noakes
What a disaster! Does this mean no Sakura o Miru Kai for Shinzo this year? What's he going to do for money? Akie's going to be really mad.....
Paul Laimal-Convoy
Masks can prevent moisture, containing viruses, from access to the mouth or nose of people, via sneezes or coughs. There is a proven (but fairly low) increase in protection this way. However, mass-produced facemasks cannot prevent airborne viruses, as the holes in the masks are too big to stop them.
The most effective way to prevent viral infection or spread is to wash your hands regularly, avoid touching your face while in public and not going out if you are ill.
MarkX
Was watching an afternoon wide show and things were getting testy! Almost all guests were angry at Abe saying we have to hear from him, not just Kato. Also one professor said these two weeks of holidays and cancelling large gatherings is useless. He said it will take almost half a year until this is under control. His words not mine!
Cricky
Abe and his whole family are more then knee deep in tax payers money's. For him it's normal. Us that is the people paying his salery aren't happy but I am a foreign type no vote no say permanent resident just fleece me for exhortation tax to pay idiots like this,,,,,,where is the experts? Not in the Diet that's for sure.
Serrano
Japan has at least 164 cases of infections from the flu-like coronavirus, apart from 691 reported from a cruise ship docked south of Tokyo
The real number is way higher than that.
My partner works in the Marunouchi area and she told me which building. Interesting that the article didn’t mention which building.
Well, out with it, Jimizo - which one is it? Aren't you going to tell us?
Meiyouwenti
Prime minister Abe’s salary should also be curtailed or scrapped until the viral outbreak is under control. His government failed to take necessary measures to contain the spread of the virus in the first place.
goldeneagle
I feel bad for Abe, seems like the only authority he has is "to urge"
Jessie Lee
"Meanwhile, the Yomiuri Giants baseball said on its website it would stage planned preseason games versus cross-town rival the Yakult Swallows at its Tokyo Dome stadium, but with no fans in the building."
Next up, baseball game with no players. It probably would not be any less boring!
Chip Star
Youre gonna catch flak for staying a fact.
Yubaru
From the Abe Government!
http://www.cas.go.jp/jp/influenza/novel_coronavirus.html
Bububu4
One of the things I find frustrating about these types of news stories is the lack of specific details about the infections.
In this article we have ‘two businesses in Tokyo’ and ‘a building in Marunouchi business district.’ Previously it was information about a man riding the Tokaido Shinkansen, someone returning to Tochigi on public transportation, a women in Chiba, etc. How can anyone use this information to know if they’ve been potentially exposed to the virus? Without specifics like dates, times, or places this information is useless. We need specifics if we want to be able to protect ourselves.
Yubaru
No it's possible, just wont take effect until Spring of 2022 at the soonest. Take that long at least to get AKB to produce their public service announcements!
John Beara
Mask is useless if you are not sick. Stop with the fake news.
Yubaru
Define "big" ! It's graduation season, and in local high schools, literally 1,000 to 2,000 people are going to be getting together for the ceremonies, in literally thousands of schools throughout the country.
Not to mention universities, and technical colleges and junior colleges as well!
Instead of "urging" ORDER them cancelled!
Oh right, then the teeth sucking and your poll numbers will fall even further! Just urge them, and "blame" them because you ain got the guts to make the call!
Bjorn Tomention
Too late . Too little.
Abe and the J govt have screwed this up.
They should have stopped all incoming travel from china weeks ago and put all the people from the boat into the olympic village for 2 weeks use some intelligence instead of fumbling and stumbling around now Tokyo is going to be the next petri dish. Say bye bye to the olympics abe
William77
Another urge? Seriously?
How about to make some concrete laws as the Italian PM did.
Jimizo
Great expression. I hope you don’t mind me stealing that one.
My partner works in the Marunouchi area and she told me which building. Interesting that the article didn’t mention which building.