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Brian was here
It is what it is I suppose. I don't like the fact that governments that have no qualms about raising taxes at the drop of a hat have no trouble with having people, provided they have a good reason to travel, pay hundreds of dollars for the testing.
People of all countries still have many questions and some answers, but the answers are too difficult to find among the metadata being generated in the echo chambers. Information that might have truly been useful at some time is too often outdated by the time it's discovered. There are legacy postings by governments and media left up on our dumpster of an Internet that confuses the matter even further.
Some questions:
How long does a vaccination protect you for?
Can a person who has been vaccinated still be a carrier at some point?
As someone commented, if you have a negative test 72 hours prior to your arrival in any country, what would have prevented you from contracting the disease during that 72 hour period?
Brian
gogogo
Thank you for downvoting me without providing any information, where are Japanese suppose to go? They are stuck in another country, maybe without money? Are they homeless and countryless? Their own country is not allowing them in?
Janet Shigemi Kajihiro
I wonder if we take the vaccine like I did already are we allowed to enter Japan? or do we still have to take the covid test? If we still have to be tested then it does not ma’e any sense to take the vaccine at all, to travel from Hawaii to Japan.
i@n
If this was enforced from the very start, there was no need for a blanket ban
Peeping_Tom
"This is the main reason why Singapore is, at the moment, all but COVID free."
Not true.
As per the 8 Jan (latest available figures), there were 29 cases in Singapore.
"https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/no-new-cases-of-locally-transmitted-covid-19-infection-9jan2021-update"
Applying the usual JT'eer "expertise" concerning Japan's "statistics" I am gonna say such figures must be multiplied byy1000 before we get anywhere closer to the real numbers.
Luddite
What idiot goes on holiday during a pandemic?
lostrune2
If you care for your long-term health
A couple of studies about long-term effects of Covid-19:
"The Lancet: Most patients hospitalised with COVID-19 have at least one symptom six months after falling ill, Wuhan follow-up study suggests"
https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-01/tl-pss010721.php
"Most patients who recovered in Wuhan suffer lung damage"
https://health.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/diagnostics/most-patients-who-recovered-in-wuhan-suffer-lung-damage/77383786
So yeah, if you get infected with Covid-19, there's a chance your lungs will suffer long-term damage. Like a smoker. So don't get Covid; don't take a chance of its long-term effects
Oxycodin
Which is better catching Covid and surviving it or constantly pay theRediculous costs of PCR?
Bjorn Tomention
The whole handling of this virus situation is a flaming joke !
Travelers from a few nations China included have been coming in ?
Quarantine is not required ?
Arrive at the airport catch a cab to your destination ?
The govt plan has more holes in it than a block of Swiss cheese, we are expected to believe the govt is handling things correctly or they are taking the p!th ?
Mean while others health , well being and incomes are severely being impacted with no regard for the general public !
AustPaul
Well that makes sense doesn’t it?
I'm glad Australia now requires it for international arrivals
Frans
@Yaburu
You are correct. I live in Singapore but visit Japan a lot for family reasons.
Everyone, including Singaporeans, has to follow the 14 days quarantine rule and so far they caught all the infected travelers before they could enter the country.
This is the main reason why Singapore is, at the moment, all but COVID free.
I appreciate that controlling 6 million people in SP is a lot easier than 125 million in Japan, but the Japan Government can learn a thing or two from the way Singapore has been handling the pandemic
Luddite
@tottenhaminremnants. The compulsory three day quarantine at a government approved place costs the state time and money in terms of securing places, providing adequate security and basic facilities such as catering and cleaning, let alone all the paperwork. Staff would have to be tested daily. Could you see this happening here, for all entries at all international airports? It’s too late anyway, the virus is here, the variants are here, it’s endemic so Japan should be concentrating on dealing with the virus internally, not acting like King Canute at the border.
tottenhaminremnants
Good move overall, the next step is the one which entrants from several countries already have to follow now (originally U.K and S. Af but now expanding to several countries); neg PCR (must be this type) within 72 hours of take-off, another on arrival in Japan and another on the 3rd day following 3 days in a government-approved place (initially Toyoko Inn Narita), then 11 more days strictly stuck at home having downloaded an app.
Journey from government-approved place/airport to home NOT by public transport or taxi, Keisei do a segregated train car on the Skyliner plus approved limo from Ueno to a 23-ku address for 20000yen - although as posted when I took it the train the car was designated but not at all segregated....
But could Japan handle those measures for ALL entrants?
Yubaru
Singapore requires it as it is one of the countries on the "green line" list. You have to get the PCR test withing 72 hours of departure, then go into quarantine in a dedicated facility, and on the 11th day of quarantine get another test, before being allowed into the country.
It's all at one's own expense, the quarantine with PCR test, is $2,000 (SD)
tamanegi
There have been around two dozen cases of the highly contagious English/South African covid strains detected in Japan now according to the J media. These cases look largely or maybe wholly among returnees.
Japan's covid border security policy has been quite hodge-podge of reactivate steps ever since the Diamond Princess berthed last winter.
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@slayer
It's called the spice of life.
Nah. It’s called a pandemic, mate!
8T
If Japanese nationals become sick outside if Japan they will not be allowed entry into their home country until they test negative for the virus. They must quarantine in the country they are residing in until all clear.
Luddite
Work, business; not all can be conducted online. I have business in the U.K. that should have been concluded in December, due to Covid I was able to put it off until March. If I’m not in London in March there will be huge problems.
Slayer
It's called the spice of life.
Slayer
Treating humans like dogs now, if you don't have your pets vaccinations in order they will send your pet back to where it came from or worse yet, quarantine it for 3 months. I think they are just following the animal template for travel.
Jonathan Prin
So mainland visitors from China 1.3 billion pot were left open bar with Japan.
Be certain that all variants have come freely to Nippon unfortunately.
I believe politicians are happy that retired people are casualties. It will turn over against themselves then only they will apply due leasures. Until now being able to eating in steack restaurants is the plan.
HenryK
Millions don't take it I'll get my shot faster. hahaha
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Apart from reasons of bereavement or visa expiration etc, I really don’t know why people are flying.
wanderlust
*@gokai_wo_maneku** I'm pretty sure forged or fake documents will quickly become readily available.*
A bank employee in the UK was printing them and selling them as a part-time job!
didou
@Monty
And that’s where is the problem. Even after two consécutives tests they have To do the quarantine while within Japan , even contact cases do not have such stringent measures to respect.
Here, if in contact with a case but not under the definition (15mn within 1m), nothing is required except monitoring the health, that’s it.
Two weeks quarantine after two consecutive negative tests ( if the first one not forged for sure) is not scientifically right
Luddite
Some equality at least.........until mid February.
rgcivilian1
re: "the latest scheme" so is this is a plot or a plan?
Monty
Two of my japanese coworkers came to Japan before the new years holiday. (Begining of December)
One from Germany, one from the US.
Both brought a negative test from Germany and the US.
Both had another test at Narita airport.
Both were negative tested at Narita.
Both went to Quarantine in an airport close by Hotel for 2 weeks.
kohakuebisu
That would be good, but they are private companies. Immigration control during a pandemic should not be left to private companies, especially not private companies who are currently losing lots of money.
As with pretty much all leisure facilities remaining open, the lack of testing of Japanese returnees points to the government sticking its head in the sand and hoping Covid-19 goes away. I hope it goes away too, but would like to see action taken to make it more likely. Without it, I can only see the situation with this new variant getting worse.
Meiyouwenti
At present, business travelers from 12 countries (including,of all places,China) can enter Japan without negative test results, nor are they subject to 14-day-self-quarantine. Public outrage over the government policy of imposing the state of emergency while freely letting in foreign travelers prompted the reluctant government to apply stricter entry requirements.
Asiaman7
The airline would turn them away. No airline would be required to fly a contagious passenger, Japanese or not.
gokai_wo_maneku
I'm pretty sure forged or fake documents will quickly become readily available.
Asiaman7
Arriving Japanese, who were previously exempt from the negative COVID test 72 hours before departure, will now receive the same treatment as foreigners ... for three weeks and five days.
gogogo
All people is wrong, Japanese can still come in. Where are they supposed to go otherwise?
noriahojanen
It's almost meaningless waste of money as negative people can be infected within 72 hours prior to departure. Re-testing upon arrival and quarantine are more significant.
JK
Fair enough but start really testing domestically also. Virus is in already and needs to be rooted out.
SJ
How about people leaving Japan?