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Etiquette a hot topic as social distance jogging gains momentum

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Joggers have been banned from some U.K. parks for not staying 2 metres apart and also expecting walkers to get out of their way on pavements and parks as they don’t want to deviate from their course as it affects their time. Pathetic individuals.

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With the next few months of Japan's competitive running calendar looking fairly empty as coronavirus-related restrictions take hold, more runners -- professionals and everyday athletes -- are hitting roads and trails outside.

This contradicts itself, because if there were events, "more runners -- professionals and everyday athletes --" would hit the "roads and trails" to train for them. Many people enter events for motivation to run, that's why towns hold marathons for public health reasons. Take away the marathons and you take away the motivation get out and to train for them.

More people may be jogging, but it is because other leisure activities have been stopped and there are more people stuck in the house. With few people out shopping etc. joggers will also stand out much more than normal.

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If you are feeling stressed I suggest a nice 20 minute jog before dinner. No need to overdo it or overcomplicate it.

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I do not understand the time limits. It is not marshal law and a virus does not give a damn about what time of day it is.

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In my area most joggers observe physical distancing, on the streets and along river trails. But few bicycle riders have even the slightest clue what physical distancing means.

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Plus specific times for activities means you have to put people together in small time slots rather than have them spread out.

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just be thankful that jogging is still allowed in Japan. There was a man in China who ran an ultramarathon in his apartment: https://hongkongfp.com/2020/02/16/man-runs-marathon-apartment-china-fights-coronavirus-exercise/

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In Malaysia, 11 joggers, including four Japanese, were arrested for ignoring the movement control order late last month.

Let’s hope the punishment isn’t a prison term.

Most likely they will be fined with criminal records and expelled.

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Also, if someone bangs into you, is the sticky sweaty body water able to transfer the virus?

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The basis for the part "distance for runners should be at least 10 meters" is a Belgian-Dutch Study that has been very heavily criticized because it is not even a study, is just a simulation done with parameters that have not been made public and that completely ignores very important biological factors that should have been included in the simulation.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/v74az9/the-viral-study-about-runners-spreading-coronavirus-is-not-actually-a-study

For now it appears that is more likely to be infected by people walking normally around you than by runners, and being outdoors this probability is reduced very importantly.

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@Tom No, the virus isn't transferred through sweat.

I run for exercise but I'm very focused on keeping my distance to people. It can be kinda hard sometimes though - some walker are all over the pavement. I have no problem adjusting to where they are, but it's hard when they keep changing course.

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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe hopes to cut social interactions by 70 to 80 percent. In general, people have been urged to not socialize with anybody outside their family unit, but Abe said walking and jogging are fine.

i guess rhe other 20-30% is for the bars, pubs, beer halls and hostesses clubs.

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It hardly matters if these people are taking the train to work every day...

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Thankfully, this is Japan, where many things are just suggestions, and carry no penalties, so we can still go ahead and do what we want. That said, I exercise at home, by myself.

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Japan just doesn't get social distancing and I think it never will..

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The Dutch did a study. The person in front coughs, sneezes or belches... yep. A trail of infection slamming into those behind. Nice.

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If they were infected, they would not be outside jogging and running

common sense folks

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Combining exercise and social distancing in crowded cities is always going to present problems. The faster you are travelling the harder it becomes as you have less time to adjust/react to everyone else around you (who also have a right to exercise) so by all means run or cycle if that is your chosen exercise but do so responsibly and recognise the rights of others. A park or pavement are not a racetrack/velodrome.

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I suppose weakening the immune by staying inside for weeks trumps going outside and getting fresh air and exercise.

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I am so happy not to live in a big city. I have found that walking at night after 9 is a lot nicer with less people out and about

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Japan just doesn't get social distancing and I think it never will

Totally agree!!!

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Conflicting studies about viral transmission distances doesn't help at all, but as a runner and walker on the local trails I make sure to keep 1.5 metres away from others, but cyclists are intrinsically a problem as they are not so manoeuvrable as feet! And they often dont give warning to pedestrians on the paths and come up on them too quickly.

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Jogging may be good for health if you do it in the countryside where the air is clean but doing it in a big city like Tokyo is a slow suicide: as you jog, you inhale a lot of car emissions that contain dangerous carcinogens.

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Jogging and any other exercise results in much more voluminous and powerful exhalation, so that if the jogger is carrying SARS-CoV-2 the air where they have been is more likely to contain the virus, which can remain suspended in aerosol form for several hours. This is parallel to the case of the mass infection of choir members in the Seattle area, although that was further aggravated by being indoors - singing, like jogging, results in more powerful spread of virus infected air. Therefore it would be important for joggers (and singers, hehe!) to avoid areas where people are walking for their exercise. Those people here who comment about jogging in more isolated areas are to be commended for their community spirit.

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There are reasons why some countries banned all outdoor activities including running and exercising..

The choice of everyone walking/running/exercising outdoors, thinking it'll be alright as long as they keep a certain distance, will most probably keep us from getting back to our normal life earlier..

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Felt like I was going stir crazy so rode my bike from Yokohama to Yuigahama in Kamakura yesterday. Listened to the waves on an almost empty beach and read a book for half an hour. I highly recommend it. Just stay away from people. It’s not so hard.

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@Jenn Cats

If they were infected, they would not be outside jogging and running

common sense folks

Wonderful. How many asymptomatics out there are entirely oblivious to the fact that they can be spreading the virus around?

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I live in Fukuoka city, I spend my time for exercise evening time and I avoid to jog because it's hard to me there's is pandemic warning or not. I like to run with my bike and go around 90 ms. wearing mask. That's long range to see many things and check how is it, to sometimes focus beautiful flowers of this season. Many doctors /experts plus media going to extreme saying European or abroad is this or that. Voices that let people to feel hysterical or panicked. Clusters of live show , 3 hours staying at same place or commute rush hours time in trains of people get in and get off are completely different situation. Of course, the aletr/warning to everybody is very important but if you are jogging, where you can breathe fresh air, and you catch coronavirus it's just a very bad luck...Nothing more than that.

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If one is out jogging or even walking like in the picture at top you are just NOT thinking, 2m for runners in crowded conditions....stupid beyond belief

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I've been jogging nearly every day. But there aren't that many people at the park when I go. And if I must pass someone, I put quite a bit a distance between us. But I noticed some runners on the weekends (when it's busier) just not caring about space or the amount of huffing and puffing they do when passing others.

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If they were infected, they would not be outside jogging and running

What? Have you not read any information about this virus at all?

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CYToday 08:01 pm JST

There are reasons why some countries banned all outdoor activities including running and exercising..

Decisions are taken by politicians.

Many famous scientists also consider lockdowns as a non sense.

Outdoor, even if someone as the virus and expel it from his body when running or jogging, it will move quickly in the air, disperse, vanish very quickly. The chance of being infected is very low, nearly zero should I say.

For virus transmission, viral load is a key factor and this is not much on the topic unfortunately. It appears that for the covid-19, the viral load get much higher with the age and the latest studies do suggest older people have a higher viral load than kids, therefore could spread it more easily.

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The Article is about ETIQUETTE. It’s not against the law to go jogging in the park in the photo - even during the “crowded” time.

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Outdoor, even if someone as the virus and expel it from his body when running or jogging, it will move quickly in the air, disperse, vanish very quickly. The chance of being infected is very low, nearly zero should I say.

Seems like good bro science, bro.

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''jenn catsApr. 22 06:19 pm JST

*If they were infected, they would not be outside jogging and running*

common sense folks'

LOL. I'll give benefit of the doubt and say...would you consider re-wording that?

...and also mention....read some more.

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didouT:

Many famous scientists also consider lockdowns as a non sense.

Outdoor, even if someone as the virus and expel it from his body when running or jogging, it will move quickly in the air, disperse, vanish very quickly. The chance of being infected is very low, nearly zero should I say.

"You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y0CfXi-1tI

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For virus transmission, viral load is a key factor and this is not much on the topic unfortunately. It appears that for the covid-19, the viral load get much higher with the age and the latest studies do suggest older people have a higher viral load than kids, therefore could spread it more 

Great comment but still downvoted.

Its as if people want the worst news possible.

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Sorry all you self-centered Japanese, but if you actually respected others you would be running with a mask on at all times, which I do not see happening here. And running in places with not many people at all.

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I agree, nothing wrong with jogging, but don’t be selfish, take extra precautions, don’t jog in groups, stay from people and pleas always wear a mask and if that bothers you, then don’t go jogging, even though the air dissipates the virus significantly, you exhaling and running cause a 12 ft spray that no one wants to run into that.

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Plenty of folk out running that normally would not. The Ortho wards might well be busy in the near future.

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Most cyclists don't get it either, nor walkers, or shoppers or.......

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If I'm running outside and keep my distance from people...then I don't wear a mask..

not a big deal....

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Also, jog at times of the day when there's least amount of other people

Don't jog just because everybody else jogs at those times

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