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Cricky
Congratulations after 7 years progress
nandakandamanda
Ah, so not corium, just fuel rods from one of the spent fuel rod pools.
Even so, this is a step in the right direction and something special as No.3 is one of the three most highly radioactive buildings. Step by step one gets to Rome.
Tokyo-Engr
A positive step and making progress at least. Progress is slow but the people there are working under quite difficult circumstances.
pacint
Fukushima like Toyosu might not make daily news but people at both sides work hard to get things sorted.
Slow and steady rather than rushed and Ooopsy.
Goodlucktoyou
sounds pretty professional planning.
Ponch
Good luck, makes us safe.
joyridingonthetitanic
Seems to be moving along at a good and well though out pace! Things like this take time and need to be handled very carefully indeed. If you rush that's when accidents happen.
Bill Wright
After 7 years of litigation - Finally!!!
Tokyo-Engr
Looks like a few folks posting here on Japan today can do a better job working in this environment than the engineers working up there.
gkamburoff
Before anybody gets too excited, they are removing fuel rods from spent fuel storage, not going into the destroyed reactor.
They admit it will take at least two generations of engineers, managers, specialists, and workers to do what they can to "clean" it up.
Why do we still trust them?
Utrack
Are the spent fuel rods and fuel rod assemblies cool down enough to be moved next year??? If should not they be immediately placed in a cask instead of dangling on a crane. If the number 3SPF is cool and stable I would have entombed reactor 3 entirely, SPF included
Mike O'Brien
Yes, they are more than cooled down enough. 3 years is plenty to not need active water cooling and these rods have had at least 7 years.
Christopher O'Loughlin
TEPCO, will begin to remove spent fuel rods from Fukushima Daiichi NPS Unit 3. Unit 3 spent Fuel Rods are composed of 93% uranium and 7% plutonium also known as mixed oxide (MOX) fuel. Thank you TEPCO for announcing to the world your intention to begin removal of MOX spent fuel rods from Unit 3 spent fuel pool. NOTE 435 million kilograms of molten melted radioactive nuclear fuel, location unknown, from Units 1, 2, and 3 is still unaccounted for and waiting for discovery and identification utilizing Muon Energy Location Technology (MELT). Removing intact solid fuel rods from storage in onsite Spent Fuel Pool is a smart thing to do. Where will the MOX Fuel Rods be taken too? Oh I forgot. I'm supposed to listen and not ask questions.
Tokyo-Engr
@gkamburoff - Can I ask what your profession is? The environment they are working in is not exactly conducive to immediate results. Most of the people working there had nothing to do with the accident and are trying to fix the mess. If you can do better or have a better idea I would suggest you offer it up. This is a milestone and in this situation every milestone is important.
@Utrack - The rods should be suitable for moving at this point in time. Entombment would be difficult as the major mechanism of release is via ground water and entombment would require getting far enough under the reactor building to solve this problem. One wishes it were that simple.
@Christopher - It is a very good question - where they will be taken too. I believe for now these will remain on site (as they should)
Utrack
MOX is also more radio-toxic and more unstable than regular uranium fuel. MOX fuel is hotter and harder to handle as well. Safety first should be the motto when handling MOX fuel.
Utrack
Using the concrete that sets under water may help. Like the kind used for bridges. It may also seal the cracks that the water is coming through to the reactor basements
Slickdrifter
A huge step in a long process. But the folks up there need a win. The conditions working around those reactors everyday must nerve wracking. Your work place could very well kill you. Just one slip up.
Stuart hayward
Most everyone here seems to be happy that Tepco managed to installed a crane after seven years? Wow!
pacint
Stuart.
I hope you are advising Tepco as do how to do it properly and faster.
Looking forward to your successes. ;)
Stuart hayward
pacint, a crane takes a week to two weeks to install, not seven years. Its the removal of fuel rods and melted fuel that will take an unknown amount of time.
Mike O'Brien
That number is way off.
A 1000MWe reactor has a load out of about 100 metric tons of fuel rods in the core. None of the damaged reactors are that big (#1 is 460MWe while #2 & 3 are 784MWe). But even using the 1000MWe number gives 100 metric tons 3 reactors 1000 kilograms per ton = 300,000 kilograms. Less than 1/1000th of the value given.
Not when they are dealing with high levels of radiation, have to make sure and not stir up contaminated dust, have to ensure the building is stable and that the addition of the crane won't cause undue stresses on the structure.
And every step they take has to be approved by the regulators and just looking at the ice wall we can see the regulators have made every job take many times as long as would be expected.
Stuart hayward
Mike O'Brien
Not when they are dealing with high levels of radiation, have to make sure and not stir up contaminated dust,
"Says the guy who has consistently claimed nuclear energy is SAFE & CHEEP"
have to ensure the building is stable and that the addition of the crane won't cause undue stresses on the structure.
Seven years is more than enough time to build a new foundation structure that isn't built directly on top of the original.
pacint
Like I said Stuart, pls move up there and share your wisdom/knowledge with them.
Sure they will welcome it.
Stuart hayward
pacint, Please show me where you already stated that I should move there. Oh, that's right, you never did.
Mike O'Brien
To quote someone else, 'Please show me where I stated that.'
And I never said it wasn't. With the required approvals, the lack of space and the issue with ground water, I doubt building a new foundation was possible. But if you have the engineering and physical data to show that it was possible then please share it with us, or you could have at least shared it with TEPCO and help everyone involved.
Stuart hayward
Mike O'Brien:
"Here is YOUR comment in which you said NUCLEAR POWER IS CHEEP AND SAFE!"
Nov. 28, 2016 10:40 pm JST
Posted in: Fukushima nuclear plant decommission, compensation costs to almost double See in context
Nuclear power is cheap and safe.
No you're not.
"Do you remember now? That's not the only time either, would you like more?"
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Mike O'Brien
Sure looks to me like I said cheap, not CHEEP.
But ignoring that. How many died from the Fukushima plants melting down? Zero.
How many died from the tsunami? More than zero.
And compared to other electrical generating methods it sure looks pretty cost competitive.
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/studies/levelized-cost-of-new-generating-technologies/
Especially when you consider natural gas is greatly effected by fuel costs, unlike nuclear. So as demand increases or supply decreases NG plants cost quickly go up.
Stuart hayward
Mike O'Brien, Nuclear Energy is neither cheap or safe as you have claimed.
Your cost comparisons are based on very limited energy sources. My small house is almost completely off grid, solar, wind and a portable fuel cell generator give me 30amps to run everything except my old heating unit which I'll replace this year.
There are very few safety issues in regards to how I generate electricity. However, nuclear energy is far from safe and as you pointed out, it's so dangerous, even just kicking up the dust at Fukushimaa power plant is a problem.
There are many chemical and biological weapons that haven't actually killed anyone but that doesn't mean they are safe, like Nuclear Energy, it's not safe if you're directly exposed to it.
Mike O'Brien
First it isn't my cost comparison. Second it includes everything you list except fuel cells.
So tell me, are the factories that made your solar, wind and a portable fuel cell generator almost completely off grid? Those things are fine for small applications but fail at large scale.
Personally I don't own or need a vehicle, virtually everything I need is within easy walking or biking distance. But I realize that without vehicle most of what I can get within walking distance would be there because it needs to be transported to me even if I don't directly use the transportation. Although at home you might not directly use grid power, you could not live your life without grid power supplying the energy to produce the things you need.
Stuart hayward
Mike O'Brien
You have it all wrong mate, your question is no different then me asking you if all your products and daily electric consumption ONLY comes from nuclear generated power.
I think you already know that less than 15% of your power is does. I'm not a monk living in a cave nor are you but every little bit we do, makes us less dependent on oil and gas.
If there's another natural disaster, I'll most likely still have power and it won't be causing another environmental disaster if my energy sources are destroyed.