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What? When did bars and restaurants stopped serving drinks?

-8 ( +11 / -19 )

Is coronavirus, a nocturnal Predator that only comes out after 8 PM (not a minute earlier,) about to change its patterns of behavior as to allow us enjoy our drinks again?

Ah, yes, November. it must be going into hibernation as winter approaches?

12 ( +19 / -7 )

Does that mean I dont need to use a brown bag anymore?

14 ( +19 / -5 )

Love this classic photo, like out of somewhere in South America!! South east Asia!! or even Africa, Nice shot.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

Yes, why not, serve it and let the people enjoy what's left of their normal daily routines.

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Another plan, more drafts, more considerations, more panels, more meetings, more wasting, more "GoTo" campaigning? But "they" also have to justify their positions, one way or the other, right?

13 ( +17 / -4 )

So essentially the "plan" is:

"Hey guys, our watered down SOEs don't really seem to do much, so let's just water them down some more!"

22 ( +26 / -4 )

Yay

government backtracks on a ridiculous rule to save themselves looking really stupid a wee bit further down the line toward the business end of covid

8 ( +9 / -1 )

I know we all need some normality back in our lives. Vaccination started back in the spring and we are now as 47.1% fully vaccinated. It will be amazing if the other half of the population is fully vaccinated in the next 2 to 3 months.

I hope they are not publicising these plans are some sort of election strategy. After all the hardest half of the population is yet to be vaccinated. People have already found it difficult to get time off work for vaccinations.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Some predict the 21st century will be the century of pandemics. Anyway, it is not ending soon. We have to learn to live with pandemics.

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Anyway that was the most stupid prevention the world have ever seen.

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It was only stupid because it wasn't enforceable. Of course sars2 is spreading in bars.

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So they are relying solely on vaccinations.

Probably because this re-opening "plan" is based on the research report released 2 days ago by Japan's National Institute of Infectious Diseases which shows that the vaccines have 95% efficacy against the virus.

But this silver-bullet study, on which these all re-opening policies are based, was done before Delta (and Lamda, and now Mu) had taken hold in Japan, and we all know that the 90+% efficacy claims are no longer valid.

Current studies from several other countries puts vaccine efficacy against the now universally dominant Delta at 50-60% (or lower), hence the rush for booster shots.

But just like how Japan ignored the foreign vaccine data done abroad last winter and therefore delayed vaccine approval for several extra months (which caused the country be in its current mess), they will certainly ignore the latest foreign research regarding Delta, and then be scratching their heads this January in the midsts of another "Go To" program as to why so many vaccinated people are still contracting the virus.

For info on the glowing 95% vaccine efficacy report from 2 days ago, see here:

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210902/k10013238501000.html

16 ( +20 / -4 )

I'll drink to that! Cheers ya'll !

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Then why was I drinking beers at my local izakaya until 11pm last night? Idiots.

3 ( +13 / -10 )

Flippling flaccid flops.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

How can the majority of the population ignore his requests to stay home and take precautions and then blame him for doing a terrible job? Even companies are still sending their staff on unnecessary business trips.

And as I've stated in the past, I am not fond of the guy but ....

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Good! Let's get back to normal already.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

It's probably ideal Suga quits today beore doing too much more damage.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

Now it’s been proved that the vaccines do not necessarily prevent infection, there’s no point in banning alcohol in bars and restaurants any longer. The government should lift the alcohol ban right away.

8 ( +11 / -3 )

Meanwhile the government is going to enforce the use of sanitary pass, allowing anyone who has tested negative or has been vaccinated to access restaurants, and smoothen travels. This article is rather incomplete because it doesn't mention the measures that will be drafted next week.

But all in all, it's a good move, getting closer to over 50% population vaccinated we can start to hope some progressive return to normal.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Let's get back to normal, provided everyone has been vaccinated all will be good.

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

Good news. If you've got coronaphobia even after being vaccinated then feel free to stay home, nobody is forcing you to go to a restaurant or bar yourself.

The government probably needs the tax

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Current studies from several other countries puts vaccine efficacy against the now universally dominant Delta at 50-60% (or lower), hence the rush for booster shots.

But just like how Japan ignored the foreign vaccine data done abroad last winter and therefore delayed vaccine approval for several extra months (which caused the country be in its current mess), they will certainly ignore the latest foreign research regarding Delta, and then be scratching their heads this January in the midst of another "Go To" program as to why so many vaccinated people are still contracting the virus.

For info on the glowing 95% vaccine efficacy report from 2 days ago, see here:

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210902/k10013238501000.html

Criminally irresponsible. Half the people I know haven't even had their first shot yet. First the LDP spread coronavirus all over Japan with that insane Go To Travel campaign, then they put the Olympics ahead of the public health and now this. It's beyond belief.

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They should allow alcohol to be served and restaurants/bars to be open past 8:00.

Force places to have spacing between seats/customers and good ventilation.

They shouldn't restart the GoTo campaign. Only promote intra-prefectural travel.

Increase the speed of vaccinations further and open up more mass vaccination sites.

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The government probably needs the tax

Spot on has nothing to do with covid.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Now the cash cow is drying up it will be interesting to see how many shut shop..

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Criminally irresponsible.

I assume your income hasn't been affected. How about you take a third of your income and send it to people you want to shut out of business? It's only fair.

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Ideally an open air, spacious and well ventilated izekaya is desired. Unfortunately that is not what most are here. I feel bad for counter bars as it will be hard for them to implement anti covid measures.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

"Only if countermeasures are taken to prevent infection" this is most likely health passes. Once they reach a critical mass of vaccinated people, the resistance will be low enough to push it through. "You wanna drink at this bar? Show us your papers."

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

I look forward to long overdue beers at Torikizoku soon!!!

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Jax...

Is coronavirus, a nocturnal Predator that only comes out after 8 PM

No, but the correlation between alcohol consumption and positive cases in Japan is huge.The majority of known transmissions are from people in close contact sitting across from each other without masks. Most Japanese workers work late so by having the 8:00 pm cut off the authorities essentially ban drinking parties without actually banning drinking parties

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Here’s an idea. If the government is going to start up another subsidy program, they should consider the Uber Eats type businesses. This would probably keep more people at home and also attract more business for the restaurant industry.

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JaxToday  06:53 am JST

Is coronavirus, a nocturnal Predator that only comes out after 8 PM (not a minute earlier,) about to change its patterns of behavior as to allow us enjoy our drinks again? 

Ah, yes, November. it must be going into hibernation as winter approaches?

Excellent comment,this is exactly what I am keep saying.

Oh and on the top of that we all do very well that the Covid in Japan is polite.

It can hit people in restaurants and Karaoke but it won’t show inside crowded subways and trains.

The J-government “logic” as it’s best.

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That’s not for us, they miss their restaurants and nightlife much more. lol

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After this ban, it's time to lift entry ban on buisness travel and international students.

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So what will a SOE entail then?

This is not a sarcastic, but a completely serious question.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

Ease the alcohol restrictions. COVID still doesn’t stop.

Now can blame alcohol for COVID not stopping. Diabolical plan.

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I travel around Japan monthly or so , so bring back GoToTravel. I spend it all . Hip hip hooray!

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

Sadly I visited near Ebisu Station a few days ago and my old yakitori shop is boarded up and looks like a common scene with many closed businesses. It is unfortunate that the government gave/gives so little, very little, financial support to the hundreds of thousands in the hospitality and service sectors who lost their jobs. The next guy will probably continue in true form providing financial support only to businesses.

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just one question

how alcohol is related to covid?

any thoughts?

i am ready for new info

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The problem isn't that places were being banned (but did it anyway) from serving alcohol due to insufficient measures taken -- many took more than the basic steps required -- it's that no sufficient measures were spelled out by the government that were effective, and nothing done if people didn't follow. So, they just blamed it all on alcohol, as though that would allow all other steps (if any) be ignored and restaurants be open without taking them. There is no common sense legislation, and THAT is the problem. So, yeah, while allowing restaurants to serve alcohol again likely won't exacerbate the problem, the problem will still be there because no good steps have been taken to begin with. It's just more lip-service. I mean, come on... tell me... how is this a State of Emergency, really?

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commanteerToday 09:08 am JST

Criminally irresponsible.

I assume your income hasn't been affected. How about you take a third of your income and send it to people you want to shut out of business? It's only fair.

I've lost around 25% of my income over the last 2 years, thank you very much. It's the criminal corruption and incompetence of the money-obsessed third-raters running this country that has led to this current situation, and it's their deliberate ignoring of medical advice which will spread the new variants all over the country, variants that can kill even the vaccinated.

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Hallelujah!

Let the hysterical hypochondriacs stay at home. Let the well-adjusted continue to live life.

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*The plan is likely to be adopted in October or November, when all people who wish to be vaccinated are expected to have been fully inoculated. But some experts on infectious diseases remain cautious over relaxing the current measures.*

The real problem being that despite the population wanting to get vaccinated...they can't. Either because of a stocking issue (i.e. we are running out of vaccines) or logistics issues (i.e. we can't get the vaccines to where they're needed) or, most likely, both. Just look at Shibuya's thousands of people lining up for a few hundreds shots (quantity-issue) and organization in obvious complete disarray. We're talking about Tokyo, not a village out in the boonies, FFS!

"...when all people who wish to be vaccinated..." is basically just the government trying to put the blame back on the public while avoiding to commit to any vaccination-targets, this as they failed to meet any of their earlier targets.

As for the October, November timeline, it's obviously just a disguised electoral promise (which in my book has limited chances to be fulfilled by then). One just need to look at Yahoo's page:

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/pages/article/20200207

Look under "国内の接種状況 (national situation on vaccination)" and select "日別接種回数 (daily vaccination figures)" to see how vaccination-numbers have crashed and burned since August...

The Japanese government plans to allow restaurants to serve alcohol even in areas under a COVID-19 emergency if sufficient steps are taken to prevent infections, according to a draft plan for restarting economic and social activities, government sources said Friday.

*Under the plan, the government will not ask residents to refrain from traveling across prefectural borders and will consider resuming its subsidy campaign to boost domestic tourism battered by the pandemic, the sources said.*

So, the government is finally acknowledging that (a) some of the measures were just cosmetic nonsense (i.e. virus gong on a bar-crawl only after 20:00, come on!) and (b) that the public is anyway not listening to government urgings. Anyway, why would anybody listen to a government which communication has been inconsistent (I lost track of all the government's flip-flopping), full of conflicts with its own actions (e.g. school undokai is out of the question but the Olympics are okay, come on!), not even mentioning government officials ignoring their own recommendations (e.g. fund-raising parties, nomikais and Ginza steakhouse backroom deal-meetings, etc).

The worse being that, yet again, the government seems to aim for GO TO, this even though last year's GO TO gave us man-made second and third waves of infections. Obviously, that was not enough. Knowing that Nikai got (I think it was) 40 Mio JPY from tourism associations last year after GO TO, me thinks that him receiving another payoff this year thanks to yet another ill-timed campaign funded by tax-payers' money was the price the LDP was willing to pay to have him switch positions in the LDP org-chart. The bill in form of money and infection-cases will be for the plebs. Here's the buck. Yoroshiku!

The emergency is currently set to expire on Sept 12, but it is seen as increasingly difficult for the government to lift the measure given the current situation, as infections remain high across the country.

As usual, somewhere in the Kyodo article a one-liner makes the whole thing look silly at best and as pure madness-fueled incompetence at worst.

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The worse being that, yet again, the government seems to aim for GO TO, this even though last year's GO TO gave us man-made second and third waves of infections. Obviously, that was not enough. Knowing that Nikai got (I think it was) 40 Mio JPY from tourism associations last year after GO TO, me thinks that him receiving another payoff this year thanks to yet another ill-timed campaign funded by tax-payers' money was the price the LDP was willing to pay to have him switch positions in the LDP org-chart. The bill in form of money and infection-cases will be for the plebs. Here's the buck. Yoroshiku!

I was told last week by someone in the tourism business that all the transport work for the Paralympics was doled out to Nikai-friendly companies, funded by tax-payer money of course.

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Am happy to see this. I lost no money since Covid started. I have accumulated more even though trying like crazy to spend at mom and pop delicious restaurants, passing out ¥10,000 notes to homeless, and just trying to make things normal.

I have walked into coffee shops only to quickly leave when hearing the loud chatter from maskless women complaining about their husbands, although spending their money. I find it much more of a contaminated environment than walking into an Akachochin for a beer and seeing some guy eating a few sticks of yakitori, finishing his beer and going home. 35 minutes?

Good to open up places for beer, but do not put QR code entrance machines for those vaccinated and those not. I have some family members that no way would their doctors let them get vaccinated due to severe autoimmune diseases.

I am

fully vaccinated and have a severe autoimmune eye issue. I took a chance. I am fine!

-8 ( +5 / -13 )

You obviously cannot read Japanese. It is a Japanese place and open for business.

MarkToday  06:59 am JST

Love this classic photo, like out of somewhere in South America!! South east Asia!! or even Africa, Nice shot

-11 ( +0 / -11 )

I was told last week by someone in the tourism business that all the transport work for the Paralympics was doled out to Nikai-friendly companies, funded by tax-payer money of course.

"I was told last week"

Airtight.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

The plan is likely to be adopted in October or November, when all people who wish to be vaccinated are expected to have been fully inoculated

How disconnected from the field situation are the national government???? Tokyo if lucky will only have spots for maybe 100,000 people under the age of 39. Most cities and wards still offers ZERO access to vaccines to its population under age of 39, and they will be shutting down in November WITHOUT providing us with access to vaccine appointment. Vaccines are being offered by lottery at the moment, what kind of delusion are they living in??? I would be shocked if even 20% of young people can get vaccinated by end of November.

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This guy is the most dangerous, he's practically an american stooge and he's the youngest.

He must NOT win.

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Japan welcomes back Alcoholism. All bars please open up! please open up!

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The government aims to release the plan in the near future?

These announcements are irritating!

Thorough counter measures taken ?

Goodness gracious !!

First we got the government to listen to and then all the people wanna argue if meeting in public spreads the virus.

Japan needs leadership !

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It can hit people in restaurants and Karaoke but it won’t show inside crowded subways and trains.

Traveling on trains in silence while wearing a mask has NOT been shown to be a major route of transmission.

Sitting across from someone talking in aloud voice while eating HAS....

They didn't just go after bars and Karaoke without good reason..they have solid, reliable data supporting this.

I don't particularly like bars shutting but at least I understand the reasons behind it.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

About bloody time!

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

They didn't just go after bars and Karaoke without good reason..they have solid, reliable data supporting this.

Source please!

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Hi Kipling! What about coffee shops and restaurants with middle aged ladies chatting for hours loudly hyperactive due to massive amounts of caffeine for hours on end?

Don’t you think they spread more droplets of virus loads than their husbands who stops for ramen and a cold beer during his grueling commute home because he knows he will not get a meal when he gets home because his spouse is too tired from a long day at the cafe with friends?

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

I went to an izakaya a few weeks ago and, although there were checks at the door, the behavior of the people inside the place was scary. The screens were avoided, and people were talking a mile a minute, literally yelling to each other across the tables - or walking around the tables to kampai and chit chat with everyone. It was positively bacchanalian. I was unvaccinated then, so drank my drink and left.

on a lighter note, I’ve been giving out ¥100,000 bills to the homeless and donating unneeded organs to them when requested. Honestly.

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If you get worked up about alcohol being stopped at 8pm, you may need to see a specialist about that.

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I am not against strict rules that address an emergency health situation, but I think that the drinking of alcohol does not cause contagion. Other factors are more related to increased contagion. If you are going to decrease contagion, then shape the rules around those other factors so they have a direct connection to the problem.

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Govt truly signaling a virtuous intent “for the People’. - Similarly @bltvzpk 1:07p, the humble, lack of selfishness and remarkable humanitarianism never go unnoticed. - Please continue your good work to “make things normal again”.

*- “**on a lighter note, I’ve been giving out ¥100,000 bills to the homeless and donating unneeded organs to them when requested. Honestly.*

Three cheers: “Goodness! Gracious! Hip hop Hurray!” - Well done, sir*s.** *

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Jax

Is coronavirus, a nocturnal Predator that only comes out after 8 PM (not a minute earlier,) about to change its patterns of behavior as to allow us enjoy our drinks again?

Yeah, apparently it changed its mind. Biology is amazing!

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When is a ban not a ban?

When it’s in Japan.

I have recent pictures of friends enjoying themselves, with drinks in hand-every night…

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Some very good izakaya in my area, and I hope they survive, but in the meantime, even though twice vaccinated now, I'll have my brew at home, thanks.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Not able to buy alcohol with my meals since the SOE. Don't understand that one since I can buy non-alcoholic ones. Always enjoy beer, wine and sake with my meals. The restaurant makes its profits on alcohol sales.

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The stupidity continues…

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Under the plan, the government will not ask residents to refrain from traveling across prefectural borders and will consider resuming its subsidy campaign to boost domestic tourism battered by the pandemic, the sources said

Ah yes the tourism industry that has been "battered" from government incompetence. Imagine how all these businesses could have been performing if the people in charge had got their collective act together last summer or autumn, instead of...well it's still a total mess.

The government expects everyone who wants to have a vaccine taken care of by November? Why couldn't they have been taken care of before the Olympics started? And how many tens of millions of people will still be unvaccinated after that date, assuming for an illusionary second that anything proposed ever comes true? The threat of illness doesn't suddenly disappear, yet how is the government preparing for the ongoing problem among unvaccinated? What about breakthrough infections? What about the potential for the Mu variant or a new variant being resistant to vaccines?

I very much see this country as having an "end plan" as if this virus is going to just magically disappear once the arbitrary "goal" of November hits and global tourism surges back in here. I'm willing to bet that there will be another wave, and that the government will be absolutely unprepared and "caught off guard" by the "unexpected" rise in cases.

And let's not forget: subsidization of travel and eating expenses means TAX PAYERS are funding it. So once again, the government thinks the burden should be on the general public for solutions to the problems it created. These politicians and bureaucrats saw absolutely no loss of income during any of this. Totally shielded from the incompetence they fostered. How about these they all take a mandatory 20% salary cut for a year+ and that money be used to fund businesses which suffered the most?

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

All those people happy not losing money and telling businesses to stop serving alcohol and no restaurants open after 8 etc YOU stay home with your two covid vaccine jabs and your Uber Eats and let the people who want to see friends for a quiet drink in an izakaya of our choice go about our lives!

Thanks very much !!

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My Bad Before. I wrote ¥10,000 notes but meant ¥1000. Sorry. I think I would be followed home if I gave out ¥10,000 LOL.

But anyway, glad to see the majority responding well to this possible considered contemplating the change to go into effect.

Try suggesting that if anyone gets loud, they will be requested to leave in restaurants as well as coffee shops to keep things even, and check the ID of young-looking drinkers. So many of them are kids, but then again, kids serve alcohol at many establishments as well.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

They need to allow all bars and restaurants to open now, with precautions.

Use subsidy money to focus on vaccinations. Announcing now, that they may allow bars etc to open in 2 or 3 months is ridiculous even for the inept government.

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Myst have realized that actually MORE people are currently congregating at cafes then bars and took the common sense approach of equality over safety?

I mean, I’m all about easing it. It’s just the logic that has me scratching my head.

Par for the course I guess.

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