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Governors call for securing medical system as COVID curbs ease

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Save as many 94 year olds as possible! Convert would be child day care centers into elderly care venues. (Sigh)

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Will that guarantee that no more patient rejected by hospital anymore?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/03/national/ambulance-rejections-hospitals-coronavirus/

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It took them 2 years to finally think about this subject. Man did the olmpics dumb down the jgovt its a suppire how evil money can turn you into.

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During one and half years, Japan's authorities who learn nothing from misstep repeats easing restriction before strengthening virus measures. And they repeat infection spreading, increase victim.

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Every government has made missteps but Japan seems to have managed things comparatively well and is at the top of the heap now.

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Good luck with that.

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The government will once again squander this time away, they've already expended all their time and energy into voting for the PM and the next thing on the agenda will be the general election. Kishida's current focus is on filling posts that will make it palatable for the populace in hopes that it will get the poll numbers up just in time. And while all this is going on, the SOE has been lifted and the LDP will tout this as their economic recovery while not knowing what the infection rates will be this winter. The sad thing is you can read this like a book or watch it play out like a worn out TV drama.

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Geez, aren't we a bit late...

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I don't know how some people can be so critical of Japan's response to SARS-CoV-2? Far from perfect but Japan ranks well below the world average in deaths per million, coming in at 147th.

Japan has managed to flatten the curve with only 60% of the population vaccinated, use of monclonal antibodies to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed, very few deaths of people under the age of 70, without weekly protests and completely without violent police action and months of hard core lock downs.

A+ for for a novel virus pandemic.

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The rather uninformed and bizarrely unbalanced criticism of 'Japan' and the response to SARSCoV-2, by essentially, guests in the country bespeaks of a peculiar Whiteman's burden.

Whatever failures emanate from the central government, are offset by regional and local entities. To dub the actions or inaction of the central government as 'failures' ignores the fact policies are often self serving and purposeful. The conservative bent of what are almost monarchists, pales before such in foreign entities such as the archconservative and reactionary Republican legislators in the USA, let alone the queer bevy of anti-vaxxers within America.

That Japan has not resorted to draconian measures, such as lockdowns is to be appreciated - totalitarians such as once PM candidate Takaichi, would intend to abuse such authority - such power it even a titular democracy is unwarranted.

The procurement of vaccines to inoculate the public relied on delivery from pharmaceutical companies abroad. The North Americans were first in line, along with Europeans and Japan was second tier and impeded delivery due to manufacturing processes. Once an adequate supply was obtained, inoculations proceeded at a pace that eventually has seen the percentage surpass the USA and is on par with or exceeded resource rich western nations.

The medical system unlike a majority thru ought the world has not reached a breaking point nor been overwhelmed - specific hospitals are designated for SARSCoV-2 and hotels have been made available to sequester and isolate & quarantine those infected with the virus.

The citizenry of Japan, on a whole, adhere to protocols designed to tamp down the spread of the virus. Which is in contrast to the rabidly insane reactions of crazed libertarians and other reactionary conservatives in the USA from lunatic QAnon to RFK led anti-vaxxers. People still have to go to work, often on crowded trains or the like, but do their best to act appropriately.

The so-called easing of restrictions, just prior to winter will result in another wave of viral infections. However, as the total number of those inoculated surpasses 70% and higher, the pandemic will subside. Springtime will be extraordinary.

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restrictions on restaurant operators such as shortened hours and alcohol ban will be relaxed in stages.

ah, cunning stuff.... that way they can nail down exactly what time of night 'The Big V' comes out, and exactly what intake of alcohol makes people susceptible to it.

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The National Governors' Association want sufficient hospital beds, tests and treatments for the coronavirus to be ensured in a draft proposal to the government to be established by the presumed next Prime Minister Fumio Kishida.

It's about time they start asking for treatments. A number of safe and effective ones are readily available. Start using them!

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It's about time they start asking for treatments. A number of safe and effective ones are readily available. Start using them

Those "safe and effective treatments" you want to push so much have been already discarded by science, they offer no benefit to the patients and have very real risks for the health.

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to "secure" as a verb means "to get hold or possession of" So the governors presumably want the central govt to take over the system.

That's a good idea. 80% of Japan's hospitals and clinics are in the private sector, which is why so many refuse to cooperate in the fight against covid. A socialized system is called for.

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More bigger better public hospitals.

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God, I wish they'd have asked for and demanded this in the late spring and summer of 2020 when we knew more waves were coming in the future. Where were their voices then?

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Japan ... is at the top of the heap now.

Um... which particular heap did you have in mind? For that matter, what's with the absolute obsession with rankings?

Japan will probably bumble into the next wave, once again inadequately prepared and causing needless suffering and deaths as a result. Many local governments will once again take action and mitigate central government paralysis and indifference to people's suffering. And once again, some will want to make it into a p!ssing contest between countries.

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Japan ... is at the top of the heap now.

Um... which particular heap did you have in mind? For that matter, what's with the absolute obsession with rankings?

Japan will probably bumble into the next wave, once again inadequately prepared and causing needless suffering and deaths as a result. Many local governments will once again take action and mitigate central government paralysis and indifference to people's suffering. And once again, some will want to make it into a p!ssing contest between countries.

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@virusrex

What????? Japan has been using effective treatments and the government approved another one several days ago. The government credits vaccines and the treatment used on patients with mild symptoms before COVID progresses enough for hospitalization for keeping the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. They are 85% effective at reducing hospitalization and death with people with mild symptoms and are 100% not discredited anywhere.

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Those "safe and effective treatments" you want to push so much have been already discarded by science, they offer no benefit to the patients and have very real risks for the health.

That's a lie.

https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/13293/20210917/india-s-uttar-pradesh-state-now-covid-free-recovery-rate-up-98-6-because-of-ivermectin.htm

https://newsrescue.com/the-undeniable-ivermectin-miracle-indias-240m-populated-largest-state-uttar-pradesh-horowitz/

Your info is out of date.

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@Strangerland

The placebo effect can't be any worse for people who are sent home by doctors with nothing to take or no advice after experiencing symptoms.

Eat chicken soup twice a day, at least would be better advice to people with symptoms than what they are hearing now in many countries.

A way forward that does not include at least some advice has no validity at all.

There is no excuse, at this time for medical experts in countries with adult populations with unhealthy herds not to at least advise people to eat better, get more exercise and loose weight. Unfortunately, the obesity normalization lobby has captured the media.

Get vaccinated and improve your health, it is a pandemic of the unhealthy.

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@Strangerland 1/500 American have died with COVID but 1/50 obese Americans have died with COVID.

Hospitals are not being overrun with young healthy people with COVID. Only 94 people under the age of 40 have died with COVID in Japan and no information about other health problems is available.

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It's about time they start asking for treatments. A number of safe and effective ones are readily available. Start using them!

Yes! The Japanese government does allow doctors to use those treatments as off label use. But I'm not so confident most doctors would prescribe them so I secured my own supply of IVM and a bunch of supplements. And I'll secure more this week, since zinc is now on sale now at Costco!

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They are 85% effective at reducing hospitalization and death with people with mild symptoms and are 100% not discredited anywhere.

That is of course completely false, as obviously as you can't find any respected institution that can back up those misleading claims.

That's a lie.

Can you find any respected scientific or health care related institution (university, big hospital, research laboratory, etc.) that recommends HCQ or ivermectin as a treatment for COVID?

no? that would be because it is not a lie that the scientific consensus have found no valid evidence of efficacy, reports of badly made studies, (or even worse manipulated, falsified data as in Egypt and Argentina) say so, but obvious flaws and limitations make them very poor evidence to contradict studies of much better quality that prove otherwise. If you search enough you can find people defending even the most obvious mistakes, specially if you skip primary sources (like pubmed) and instead link to newspapers where "results" are reported without even the most primitive epidemiological controls to validate them.

But I'm not so confident most doctors would prescribe them

Fortunately most doctors are actually prepared to understand scientific evidence and they can judge from the available literature how these drugs do not offer to COVID patients anything more than extra risks so it is expected (and desirable) that they would not prescribe them, unfortunately laymen rarely have this professional capacity and will self medicate with the expected results, the same as those that buy and take antibiotic to "treat" viral infections.

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