Japan bars entry of 2nd cruise ship

One ship too late, but better late than never.

This is a good chance for the world to wake up and realize that the days of open borders and open travel are long gone. There are too many health risks in the third world countries and China frankly is one of them in spite of the modernization, and the developed countries will have learned from the disaster of the flood of illegal invaders from the Middle east into Europe. The fantasy of Globalism is just that, an impossible dream and the flu from China is making that clear.

Might not be the whole story, CrisGerSan. For example the Spanish Flu spread and killed millions worldwide, long before air-travel existed.

There are too many health risks in the third world countries and China frankly is one of them in spite of the modernization, and the developed countries will have learned from the disaster of the flood of illegal invaders from the Middle east into Europe. 

Honestly, China will never give up their third world status because they exploit the benefits of that title while operating as a modern country. They wouldn't give up that designation unless the world bowed at their feet.

They have a better chance of just returning to the previous port and flying out from there. I suspect that they wouldn't have the supplies or fuel, so they would be operating at a loss.

Might not be the whole story, CrisGerSan. For example the Spanish Flu spread and killed millions worldwide, long before air-travel existed.

The black plague made its way to Europe from China and devastated the continent. It had nothing to do with immigration just simple global commerce, and the fact that Europeans at the time had very poor hygiene.

What are these people thinking that they can come to Japan at this time so easily. Come back in 2 yrs.

Let's not let fear overcome compassion. At least send a supply barge to them taking the correct precautions. If Spacex can remotely operate a marine recovery vessel I am sure Japan has something similar.

Virus can start anywhere.

I am not a fan of China but the steps they are taking to try to contain it are really massive and never experienced before anywhere in the world.

If you have any doubts, you may refresh your memory about the USA H1N1 virus handling in 2009.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/somethings-right-here-folks-look-usa-2009-h1n1-virus-compared-cavolo?fbclid=IwAR16lUN8u613psMNb-e3sXx1xur1pg38nR9MujNo30YJOsJU1uOpXKFdqFk.

And yet the flights keeps coming!!!

These cruise ships might be really in deep trouble if they don't quickly find some solution and talk it out with the governments. Not only do they need to refuel and resupply, currently no nation would take them in or allow passengers to set foot on land. They are basically stuck on sea until this whole virus thing blow over.

Tough on the innocent passengers, but understandable reaction. Having said that if they are to be refused then it is incumbent on Japan to provide all assistance, medication and supplies to ensure their safety.

Isn't this setting a dangerous precedent?

I'm guessing the cruise ship has few, if any, Japanese passengers. What if other countries suddenly decided to refuse medical care on the basis of nationality? Japan would be in uproar if a foreign country refused to treat a Japanese citizen and turfed them out the country.

Hardly in the spirit of the international cooperation that is required to defeat this virus.

Suspected coronavirus patients or suspected medical overheads?

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Might not be the whole story, CrisGerSan. For example the Spanish Flu spread and killed millions worldwide, long before air-travel existed.

The black plague made its way to Europe from China and devastated the continent. It had nothing to do with immigration just simple global commerce, and the fact that Europeans at the time had very poor hygiene.

NumanToday  10:34 pm JST

I don't think you really need to repost exactly the same post you did three and a half hours ago.

It didn't have much to do with this news item then or now.

If there is no case of nCov2019 in this ship - assuming it has left any potential contamination 14 days ago - there is no reason to bar it.

If no nCov2019 is confirmed within these 14 days, barring them is just plain and simple discrimination that is not tolerable.

Isn't this setting a dangerous precedent?

I'm guessing the cruise ship has few, if any, Japanese passengers. What if other countries suddenly decided to refuse medical care on the basis of nationality? Japan would be in uproar if a foreign country refused to treat a Japanese citizen and turfed them out the country.

Hardly in the spirit of the international cooperation that is required to defeat this virus.

Suspected coronavirus patients or suspected medical overheads?

They aren't trying to dock in Japan to get people treatment, though. They are trying to call in Okinawa, which means let everyone out to entertain themselves, and then do the same thing at several other places in Japan, potentially spreading the virus everywhere they go (assuming there really are infected people). This whole cruise was originally scheduled to visit China, as the below article explains.

https://www.travelagentcentral.com/cruises/holland-america-s-westerdam-barred-from-japanese-ports

therougouToday  11:13 pm JST

They aren't trying to dock in Japan to get people treatment, though. They are trying to call in Okinawa, which means let everyone out to entertain themselves, and then do the same thing at several other places in Japan, potentially spreading the virus everywhere they go (assuming there really are infected people). This whole cruise was originally scheduled to visit China, as the below article explains.

True, but Abe made a point of saying there were suspected coronavirus patients onboard- sick people whether they know it or not.

In such an unprecedented situation wouldn't it be ethical to offer (or even insist upon) medical assistance and education, rather than just turn them away?

As I said before, Japan would most definitely expect no less for its citizens overseas.

@kai-yamanaka-1 that’s a perfect idea Kai! And yeah I agree with you, especially when I initially read the article, I felt bad for the people on board. And it’s like, how can they keep going on like this, as they would run out of fuel and supplies?