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Good
By the time they finish considering it the whole thing will be over, lol
kurisupisu
I already feel safe without the booster.
Haaa Nemui
So do I, but I’ll still get it when it’s offered.
NOMINATION
Since the number of those that reportedly contracted Omicrom is low thus far in Japan, why can't the media report about the status of those people?
Strangerland
I agree. It does seem that this Omicron isn't as deadly as the other variants have been, which is good news. It's starting to look like vaccination plus Omicron covid imparts very strong antibodies, almost a super-immunity.
I'll get the booster, because it's a given to non-babies, and if/when I catch Omicron, I'll be happy it's not as strong, and that it's making me stronger.
MarkX
I'm quite surprised that the vaccination rate has stalled out at 77%! I thought for sure it would be higher. I really would like to ask the 23% who didn't get it what is their logic? Have they recieved other vaccines when they were a child? The most recent Covid case in our prefecture the Darwin award winner was of course unvaccinated!
Alienaimatrix Null
Booster is just a "Booster", it will "Boost" you up like the mandate is saying...
factchecker
How about 'considering' that quarantine is scrapped for vaccinated residents? I thought not.
Jbigs
I would consider it if the vaccine worked. Why don’t I need boosters of all my other vaccines like measles every few months?
runner3
What are they waiting for?
runner3
Jbigs, because this is a world wide pandemic.
Disillusioned
6 months is the standard around the world. I don't know why they set it at 8 months. Some countries are looking at shortening the interval to 4 months. However, I'll be waiting the 6 months. If the booster jab is given too early it has no effect because the immune system is still boosted. There is also a new vaccine being developed that specifically targets the Corona virus and not jiust boosts the immune system. It should be released within the next few months. I'm due for my 6 month booster in the end of February. Hopefully, the new vaccine will be available by then.
Michael Machida
... bringing forward?
Haaa Nemui
How often do new variants of the measles appear?
theResident
Fine with me - Get me through the winter. My arm is primed.
Happy Day
What, exactly, is to prepare for? Not one death in South Africa or U.S. from Omicron. Let's give everyone boosters, just for kicks?
Reality is that there's lots of money to be made in vaccines but not so much in some treatments. Hope some politicians aren't getting rich.
vic.M
So many people still haven't figured out what the " so called vaccine " is. Don't people know what the meaning of "Experimental " is? Taking jabs that they told you were 90 percent or more effective and now after 2 jabs you are still not protected. Now you require a booster with talk of regular booster shots after that. All this fear now of Omicron which is just a seasonal flu with mild conditions. What happened to the normal seasonal Flu and colds that we used to have and seem to have disappeared over the last year or so ?
theResident
vic.M - I have a seasonal cold right now. They are are still about. Covid is NOT Flu. Why do you keep calling it that?
151E
Until boosters are available, consider supplementing with vitamin D as recommended in this open letter you can read at vitamindforall.org co-signed by over 220 medical doctors and researchers including:
Dr. Ashely Grossman (University of Oxford)
Dr. Giovanna Muscogiuri (University of Naples Federico II)
Dr. Mirchael F. Holick (Boston University Medical Center)
Dr. David Sinclair (Harvard Medical School)
Yubaru
So I guess the tens of thousands of US Military that come in and out of Japan every year are citizens here too!
Right military and "foreigners" are two totally different animals!
Luddite
Hurry. Up.
u_s__reamer
So the Japanese government announces it's bringing its booster program "forward" , but it's really from "behind" compared to some other countries. The Omicron variant has already bolted and the booster is just shutting Covid's stable door, too late to "head the pandemic off at the pass".
Vincent Ricci
From 8 to 6 months?
In France, you can get this booster only three months after the second dose!
Mat
What about those that have had covid already? Possibly more than once?
Should they be mandated to get a booster too?
Remember when you were a kid and you were asked "have you had measles, OR have you been vaccinated for it" (and other diseases).
Recovering from the disease IS the vaccine. That's why parents used to have "parties" with their children when one in the community got ill. Don't believe me? Ask your parents, you probably went to one in your childhood.
commanteer
I got the first two vaccines, and have been supplementing with Vitamin D all year. Sorry to see all those downvotes you got, but some people just don't believe in science. (But they love Fauci.)
TheJapaneseway
Supplies of vaccines. Maybe?
geronimo2006
Demand and need for the vaccine in Europe, US and many other countries far outstrips Japan. My guess is they won't get supplies to give everyone their booster shot for a couple of months. Probably that's the real reason behind why Kishida says he's considering. Nothing to give out. Bit like just before the Olympics. Wonder if he's having second thoughts about the Go To Travel. That's probably next on his things to consider list. Alongside his things to urge list and people (prosecutors) to pay off list.
Fighto!
Some people also used to put butter on burns, and suck snake bite venom out of victims.
Medical science has moved on.
Im looking forward to getting my booster.
theResident
@indigo: What are you talking about?
hattorikun
I remain vaccine-free, active everyday, eat good food, sleep at least 8 hours a day, get a lot of sunshine and fresh air being outside, wear mask in public places. Meanwhile, please make booster available for those who need it or up to it… at this rate it might become a monthly thing.
hattorikun
“like the mandate is saying...”
NO such mandate here in Japan. Bring that notion back to where you are.
hattorikun
“Have they recieved other vaccines when they were a child? “
Yes. I received various types of vaccines for the prevention of various diseases… also have the annual flu shot. All felt comfortable with those vaccines. Not current COVID vaccines. Will do when I become comfortable with them. Maybe with something from Shionogi if they are successful with it.
anon99999
By the time the government decides to shorten the wait for the vaccine booster from 8 or 7 months to 6 months whatever, it will already be 8 months later for many anyhow, particularly the aged vaccinated first, already now having 6 months passed.
Anyone who believes there are only a few cases of Omicron in Japan because only a small number of community spread cases have been found is deluding themselves, It doesn't just magically appear out of the air in those few cases. They caught it from other people who have not been found, who caught it from other people who have not been found and of course so it goes on. The symptoms are even more mild to none in many people then the previous variants, so most would not even think of getting tested even if they could ( which basically they can't in Japan) or wanted to ( why would they want the stigma of being infected, off work and forced into hospital of 10 days or two weeks, when not even ill).
The rising number of the tip of the iceberg community spread omicron cases they keep discovering everyday clearly tell us it is not just a small number of omicron in Japan at all but rapidly increasing. This may or may not be a good thing but it makes no difference as the spread cannot be stopped.
virusrex
The vaccines are not experimental, and recognized as proper vaccines, effective and safe by the scientific and medical consensus. The vaccine effectively protects people from the complications, hospitalizations, death produced by the infection, but the immunity against the previous variants (including the one adquired after infection) is less effective against the variants, so the boosters are of course related to them, if no variants were produced the need of boosters would be not present for all the people for which the protection is still adequate.
This is a logical as refusing to wear a seat belt (but keep driving) because you want to wait until a new model is available.
Yes, the people that contradict every single institution of science or medicine of the world, which say they are vaccines, safe and effective.
Since herd immunity is common al over the world they have much less opportunity to appear, also important is that mutations in negative stranded viruses are less likely and that the virus had centuries to adapt as best as possible to human transmission, which means any variant is more likely to be less adapted than the predominant one. None of those factors applies to COVID.
FizzBit
The vaccines are experimental, only recognized as proper vaccines, effective but maybe safe by human scientific and medical consensus that has a history of corruption. How do you think so many dangerous opioids make it past the FDA which caused the crisis?
justasking
There’s no need for consideration. Just observe what’s happening in other countries and decide from there. Why does he think Japan is a special case?
virusrex
False, in Japan none of the vaccines have been qualified as experimental, and expecting people to just blindly believe all the scientists and doctors/nurses/technicians/pharmacologists of the world are in a conspiracy that would affect them, their family and friends is not realistic.
Opioids became a problem in one single country, even when they were promoted all over the world, that is because of particulars in the health and insurance system of the US, in the rest of the world the scientific and medical consensus was against their adoption as promoted by the makers.
CaptDingleheimer
My son, almost 4, got Covid a few weeks ago. Pretty much resembled a cold.
My wife and I had both gotten our Moderna boosters about a week or two earlier, and though our kid was coughing all over us and hopping into bed with us, et cetera, we both tested negative after 5 days of exposure.
I realize that every immune system is different, but from our experience, the vaccine works.
Raw Beer
The alleged need for boosters has nothing to do with variants. It's because of the rapidly waning immune response conferred by these "vaccines". The boosters are still based on the original Wuhan strain, they have not been updated based on the sequence of the heavily mutated Omicron spike protein.
Mitsuo Matsuyama
Of course some of us will keep saying that this result is based on lack of testing, but how can those guys can guaratee that having same number of test as S. Korea and Australia do would be 3.000 cases daily?
Giving downvotes to me is an easy thing to do, but how about share your thoughts that strongly support your idea? Even if the number of test were like in England, the supposed number of new cases would be 0.08%.
Another thing, how testing everyone will guarantee that number of deaths will be zero? South Korea and Australia; countries that test everyone has huge number of deaths. Are you really sure that testing everyone will impede number of deaths?
I'm not against testing people, but we need to understand that our focus should be taking care of ourself by keeping the rules and having good healthy habits. No matter how many people are being testing each day, if the number of deaths is high, this testing thing will be meaningless. Instead of focusing on number of test, why not focus on making people aware of the importance of washing hands properly and eat healthly? Another thing, no matter how many doses you took, if you dont have healthy habits, the risk of die is same. Vaccines are important, but having healthy habits is important too.
virusrex
This is self contradictory, if the boosters had nothing to do with variants then it would be irrelevant against which strain they were made against nor they would need any need of being updated.
In reality the reduced efficacy of the immunity (both from vaccines and natural infection) against the variants is the reason the boosters are recommended for those at an elevated risk and that also benefit those that were infected before, the booster increases the immunity so the extra risk is eliminated.
Haaa Nemui
Thank you. Therefore it's clear that we need the boosters, as they still work to protect against the new variants we have seen so far, which is a much better position than relying on immunity from the natural infection which has seen similar reductions in protection as the vaccines. I wasn't really expecting you to answer, but thank you for clarifying it for those that might be a little confused about it.
Mitsuo Matsuyama
drlucifer
What unknowns?
We know it is highly contagious but not deathly like the delta.
drlucifer
Has testing not been free since the start of the pandemic when performed by the health centers?
drlucifer
The bolded should read "One of the most discriminatory in the world"
Mat
Nope. I suspected I had it, made an appointment and went to a clinic and they said "Nah, you're fine, but we can test you for 25,000 yen"
UK has the lateral flow tests that anyone can have for free, as many as they want.
Japan testing is a total joke.
Andy
So, 77% have had two jabs which didn't prevent infection or transmission and the third is for what exactly, to prevent a slight headache and the sniffles?
kurisupisu
Having seen people with the virus up (pre vaccines) close I’ll be refusing the booster as there is no data regarding multiple injections with these vaccines on our immune systems.
I am not a guinea pig ready to allow companies producing vaccines to inject me and not accept liability for their overpriced products
smithinjapan
Thank the gods. And here I thought they were going to buck the trend of not deciding things quickly.
theResident
I am not a guinea pig ready to allow companies producing vaccines to inject me and not accept liability for their overpriced products
You are paying for them anyway unless you also refuse to pay any tax!
Fuzzy
I'm double vaxed and still think it was the right thing to do based n the situation at the time. But I'm very skeptical of this booster push. Where is the data to show that the booster is effective against omicron? All the messaging is they expect it will be effective, just because it was effective against delta. Since when did expectations about efficacy become acceptable science? We still don't even have clarity on how dangerous omicron really is, but as each day passes it's looking more and more like a stroke of good fortune for the world.
kurisupisu
@theResident
It’s immaterial whether I pay for them or not-it’s not going in my arm…
theResident
@kurisupisu: Fair - but I'm very happy you are paying for mine :) Thank you!
Zaphod
klausdorth
ONE death in a country of 80 million (without indication of the persons age and health either), and we are supposed to panic? So far, the SA pattern is replicated everywhere: Omicron is very infectious and very mild. In other words, it should be end of the pandemic.
Sister Jane
Well MarkX since you asked for some peoples reasons and logic, here's a couple. There is the VAERS data base, which claims there is over 20,000 deaths and many more adverse reactions to this vaccine. There is also the fact that data base only represents about 1% of the deaths and bad reactions. There is a similar data base in Europe. Since Doctors are not required to fill out the forms for this data Base and since Doctors are taught that all Vaccines and Medicines are usually good things, I found it illogical to take a vaccine since I'm reasonably healthy and know exactly Zero people who've come down with any virus over the last 2 years. Now back in 2017 and 2018 we had 2 or 3 people catch the flu who worked for our company, but nothing serious, that was also the time with the highest deaths by flu in Japan. BTW, I am not anti vaccine, although in this case since it's an experiment, I do not wish to be a guinea pig, however anyone wishing to take the vaccine is free to do so or not.
justasking
It's because eligible population only accounts for around 77% of total. The rest 23% are children and babies.
didou
Pfizer said itself the booster is efficient at 70% against Omicron, dropping to 30-40% after 10 weeks
Sister Jane
Data from Digital healthcare research, and I believe there are others besides this one. Stop with the credibility crap, most governments and Main Stream Press all over the world has lost credibility on this pandemic, by not allowing any debate what so ever, just mandates and lockdowns from high above. The VAERS data base is almost never even mentioned within the Main Stream, and any organization that so much as tells anything opposite of the Main Stream is quickly decharacterized and attacked. Which actually sounds similar to what you just tried to do to me, and I'm just writing down the facts.
Alan Bogglesworth
While the virus rapidly spreads through Japan, you can do some more considering.
Kumagaijin
Recent studies have shown infection from Omicron variant provides antibodies to protect from Delta variant, even better protection than from boosters or jabs. It might be beneficial to allow Omicron to spread amongst the population. Its really a sheep in wolf's clothing.
151E
@commanteer
Thank you for your kind words. I wish you (and everyone else in the comment section) the best of health in the new year.
theResident
No chance Ashley. Only submitted for approval on Dec 16th (in Japan) as a primary vaccine. As a booster jab, that could be anywhere from 6 months to a year away as that requires separate approval.
Rocket Lees
@MarkX asked:
@justasking replied:
Thank you, @justasking, for clarifying this.
In fact, approximately 90 percent of the eligible population has been vaccinated. That's pretty remarkable, especially considering how slow and clumsy the rollout was under the Suga administration.
kurisupisu
@zichi
What good is money if I am dead?
The only injection I would consider is the AstraZeneca shot and that seems not to be on offer anymore…
treble4punk
As always, Virusrex posts the best information and is downvoted.
This is why we're going to enter year 3 of the pandemic.
Zaphod
151E
I do not think any medical doctors are against supplementing with vitamin D if you live in a Northern country and do not spend a lot time in the sun. That is just a universal recommendation. Vitamin D deficiency makes you more vulnerable to all sorts of things, including of course Covid.
Zaphod
kurisupisu
Only Novavax or Valneva for me, thank you. The "viral vector" technology used in AstraZenica and JJ, while a bit older than mRNA, is not a traditional vaccine either.
Zaphod
zichi
Do you have data about these "many young healthy people" and "sportspeople" who have died from Covid?
In the statistics I have looked at, the death risk for the young and healthy population group is pretty much zero. On the other hand, I have seen long lists of young healthy sportspeople (i.e. top football players) who were vaccinated and now suddenly died of a surprising heart attack.
Would be curious to know what you base your opinion on.
Wick's pencil
No, the immunity plummets rapidly even for previous variants. Protection is short lived, period. And as mentioned, these boosters are not specific for omicron. It's like getting a box of assorted chocolates but you only want to eat one type and you throw away most of the remaining chocolates.
Zaphod
zichi
Well, can you point to an article that lists young and healthy sportspeople that have died of Covid? In particular one that gives numbers, and not just opinions.
A "simple search" in Google will give you a lot of opinion articles from the corporate mainstream media that Google prioritizes in the top hits, I realize that. But that is not really something to base such a big claim on.
El Rata
I already posses that immunity by having had the real thing so really there's no incentive for me to get it.
Fuzzy
Interesting, considering omicron has only been identified around 6 weeks or so ago. How could they possibly have 10 week data?