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People criticize the government and leaders. But whoever becomes a leader, the situation will not be a big change. True reason of the confusion is that we do not have a cure medicine. Locking down is the last resort we can do and that will cause a large economic disasters. Capitalism economy is weak in that regard.

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This is not a 'third' wave. It's the continuation of the initial pandemic. Japan has not kept up with the rest of the world when it comes to testing citizens. That was considered unnecessary from the start because Japan's politicians assumed that just because a large proportion of the population wears masks regardless of a pandemic, it could get off the hook. They just lets people get sick, first, and that's been obvious, all along.

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People criticize the government and leaders. 

Before criticizing them, I will first criticize the "23-year-old woman from Chiba Prefecture" in the article who was drinking with her friends and said, "I'm not so worried about the increase in infections."

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I saw so many Japanese without masks at small restaurants in and around Tokyo Station yesterday afternoon. Moreover, huge numbers were walking within the station and its many underground areas — no room to social distance. Japanese apparently no longer fear this virus — unfortunately.

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When they need a sign to be told to social distance, instead of using their own brain, the results are clear to see.

19 ( +25 / -6 )

Gimmie a break! Japanese authorities are doing this to themselves, they continue with the "Go to" and then tell people out of the other side of their mouths, that the "next three weeks", which ends this coming Friday, are critical to stopping or slowing down the increase in infections.

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 Japanese apparently no longer fear this virus — unfortunately.

The government is guilty of sending out too many conflicting messages that people dont know WTF to think, or who to trust.

23 ( +26 / -3 )

Struggling to cope? They’ve only had ten months to prepare and they are still doing very little. Everybody has been worried about what the winter months would bring everybody except the J-gov who has spent gazzilions on promoting and subsidizing a travel campaign. Bwahaha!

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@vanity of vanities

I absolutely agree.

@Jeff Lee

Young people in their 20s dont care about the Virus.

In the beginning of the pandemic the WHO and the media published, that young people are not getting seriously sick from the virus.

Therefore they dont care.

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Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga has said all citizens should raise their guard against the virus but his government is not considering suspending the travel program or issuing another state of emergency.

Suga has proved himself to be just a carbon copy of Abe ( minus any hint of charisma.) Pass the responsibility onto others ( citizens ) whilst pig headedly pushing his own agenda against both majority of people's wishes and expert advice. He will only change course after another massive drop in public support. What a pathetic line of " leaders" Japan is stuck with.

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Many of my university students said they are planning on visiting their grandparents in winter vacation. If there is concern, it is not reflected in action.

19 ( +21 / -2 )

Eating yakiniku yesterday, there wasn’t a single table in the restaurant empty...

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@Marcelito

Pass the responsibility onto others ( citizens )

In this point I agree with you.

But think about it...are you, me and all other people not responsibly for our lives, our family lives and people around us by ourselfes?

You, me and other people, WE are responsible for our lives. NOT the government.

We can not just sit at home on the sofa and waiting that the Government manages our lives.

If we do that, we are completely lost.

But I think I said that already before.

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A panel of medical experts on Friday urged the central government to halt the subsidy program aimed at spurring domestic travel in areas where medical systems are under strain. But Suga has been reluctant to roll back the program as he seeks to balance supporting the economy and fighting the virus.

Of all the different strategies to support the economy the government choose to do the one that is heavily criticized by scientists as counterproductive and bound to have worse effects in the short and long term.

Doing the wrong thing while not knowing there were better options is one thing, doing it in spite of experts telling you it is the worst option have no excuse.

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The government is guilty of sending out too many conflicting messages that people dont know WTF to think, or who to trust.

Japan is probably one of the most close-minded countries of work. The vast majority of people get their news from official government channels. So they are told that the GoTo campaign is OK, then there must be no danger.

I believe this close-mindedness works even better then the Great Firewall in China in pushing the LDP agenda.

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Eating yakiniku yesterday, there wasn’t a single table in the restaurant empty...

This is hilarious. At least you are honest and don't give a ....

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People either lack or don't use common sense when it comes to making basic, straightforward decisions. One shouldn't need the government to tell them what to do.

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letsberealisticDec. 13  08:35 pm UTC

vanityofvanitiesToday  07:00 am JST

People criticize the government and leaders. But whoever becomes a leader, the situation will not be a big change. True reason of the confusion is that we do not have a cure medicine. Locking down is the last resort we can do and that will cause a large economic disasters. Capitalism economy is weak in that regard.

NZ had a very strick 7-week lockdown and no 'economic disaster' and all back to normal ever since. They simply decided lives were more important than money.

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Poor leadership and poor public health education. Aso was one of the first to use the useless plastic mouth guard and now just about all the idiot "tarento" are using these in place of actual masks. The politicians also like to pat themselves on the back by saying that the world is amazed at the Japanese model for handling the pandemic; uh....like which country exactly because in all the articles that I've been reading about, Japan is rarely mentioned, if they are, it's only a footnote.

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letsberealisstic

NZ population is 5 million while Japanese 126 million. You cannot compare the two countries.

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Two things: Firstly, there is no leadership at this time of crisis. Where was Abe, where is Suga with daily, or at least weekly reassurances, encouragements or just plain laying down the law?! Secondly, people here live in a bubble. ‘We are clean people’, even ‘we are Japan, it won’t happen to us’ have both been said to me! They won’t wake up so alas, I’m afraid the country is doomed

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More fearmongering, I understand people were worried at the beginning, we didn't know about the virus or its effects. Almost a year after, most people in Japan know that this thing is not as bad as we thought and that more than 99% of people recover from it or don't even have symptoms and the tiny minority who do not, had health issues anyway. What's with the irrational fear? People get cancer, get hit by cars, get murdered or have other illnesses all the time with way lower survival rates . What makes this thing so special? We will all die one day, anyway. Sadly, common sense is lost by most people from the west.

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A 23-year-old woman from Chiba Prefecture who visited central Tokyo to have drinks with her friends said, "I'm not so worried about the increase in infections. All we can do is to take precautions like washing our hands."

And not traveling, and keeping your socializing to a minimum . . . . .

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@Elrata

Agree with you

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vanityofvanitiesToday  09:00 am JST

letsberealisstic

NZ population is 5 million while Japanese 126 million. You cannot compare the two countries.

You certainly can. All that differs is the scale and the leadership.

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I have a friend from Iwate, which for a long time had no coronavirus cases. Earlier this year he told me he could not visit his home because if he did, his son couldn't work. I asked him why he couldn't and it was company rules. If anyone had a visit from someone from the Tokyo area or maybe it was from out of the prefecture, they had to self-isolate for two weeks.

Well, it seems Iwate and other area have been overruled by the central government and Go To Travel.

If it is ok to Go To almost anywhere in Japan, why shouldn't a 23-year-old woman from Chiba Prefecture Go To Tokyo? Don't blame just her. The government and Suga are to blame for this. They say it is ok to Travel, they say it is ok to go through crowds to work.

If they really want to help the countryside, encourage people to work from home, encourage companies to encourage employees to work from home, and the end result would be to reduce the necessity to commute to Tokyo and other large cities. Over the long term this would encourage people to go and live in the countryside.

This would have a good long-term effect, whereas the moronic Go To Travel has only a short-term good effect on a small sector of business and an obvious and rapid bad short-term effect on the health of the nation.

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@El Rata

I also agree with you!

I am at an age where I am more worried to get cancer than this Virus.

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No need to criticize Japanese people and their behavior.

Globally, they behave much better than most countries during this pandemic, and know exactly the risks and the failure of the government. And the government does not do worst than any other countries, except a few ones.

But this is the same for the majority of the world where people let it go to party, going out if they have the freedom to do so.

I think that here, they get tired to be told since spring to refrain to do things.

If 3000 infections a day, it will take more than 65 years for Japan to get 60% of the population infected and complete natural immunity

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@Monty, and don't forget the accelerating mental health crisis. The young are being sacrificed for the elderly now.

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My partner and I have been having dinner at nice restaurants every Saturday night because we both feel the need to get out once in awhile. We wen to the Andaz hotel and a very nice restaurant. I never felt safer. Our temperatures were measured twice (once at the hotel entrance and again at the restaurant entrance), The tables were about 1.5 meters apart and my partner and I sat diagonally across from each other. We sanitized our hands, kept our masks on except for eating and drinking and had an enjoyable evening.

But what did appall me was the bonenkai going on in the hotel's ground floor restaurant. At least 15-20 young people carousing with masks off. It's no wonder the highest numbers of infections reported in Tokyo each day are people in their 20s.

When I got home, I also noticed the usual yakatabune sailing up the river. They must be potential cluster cases.

My point is there is a right way to dine out (doesn't have to be at an expensive hotel restaurant either) and a wrong way.

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More fearmongering, I understand people were worried at the beginning, we didn't know about the virus or its effects. Almost a year after, most people in Japan know that this thing is not as bad as we thought and that more than 99% of people recover from it or don't even have symptoms and the tiny minority who do not, had health issues anyway. What's with the irrational fear? People get cancer, get hit by cars, get murdered or have other illnesses all the time with way lower survival rates . What makes this thing so special? We will all die one day, anyway. Sadly, common sense is lost by most people from the west.

So on one side we have the experts saying things can get much worse and the health system overrun very easily so people should have a lot more care on what they do or suddenly anybody that needs hospitalization is on high risk of dying, on the other hand a nameless person on the internet saying things are fine... not really hard to see who to listen.

If 3000 infections a day, it will take more than 65 years for Japan to get 60% of the population infected and complete natural immunity

That is really myopic, the whole point is to have the spread under control or not. Having 100 infections per day is much easier than having 500, and 500 much easier than 3000, increasing numbers means the pandemic is slipping out of control, and that much higher numbers are in the future if nothing is done.

Absolutely nobody is saying that people should be in their homes until herd immunity is reached at the slowest possible pace, just for enough time so other measures can be put in place to replace social distancing, specific treatments that lower the risk to much more manageable levels, a safe and effective vaccine, etc.

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To save unemployment and livelihood of the population, the basic pay is a one idea. That is to pay 100,000 yen per person to all. Will this make people lazy and they do not come to work to offices?

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@Reckless

The young are being sacrificed for the elderly now.

Come on man, nobody is sacrificed. Nobody is forced to go out.

Nobody sent the young on the front line. This is not the Vietnam War!

The young are going out on their own will!

And also the young understand that there is a virus going around, but you know how most of the young people are,...they dont care.

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A 23-year-old woman from Chiba Prefecture who visited central Tokyo to have drinks with her friends said, "I'm not so worried about the increase in infections. All we can do is to take precautions like washing our hand

This the reason youngsters are spreaders

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@El Rata More fearmongering ... Sadly, common sense is lost by most people from the west.

Fearmongering? The No. of deaths is over 120 times greater in the U.S. than in Japan, when the population is only 2.6 times greater. Nearly 3,000 people are dying of COVID every day there! The U.K. has 25 times more COVID deaths than Japan with a population that is only 52% of Japan’s.

Japan has somehow avoided these tremendous numbers of deaths. I don’t know how. Perhaps universal masking, extreme cleanliness, better health, underreporting? I don’t know. But we should all remain cautious.

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world is amazed at the Japanese model

I've read about the "Swedish model" but never about the "Japanese model" in any non-Japanese publication, and I read a lot of them.

What Japan doing (actively spreading the virus around), is not "model."

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NZ population is 5 million while Japanese 126 million. You cannot compare the two countries.

Why not? Both island nations with a closed border. Once you defeat the virus, keeping it out is no different. And defeating the virus could have been possible in June/July when the case count dropped.

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If 3000 infections a day, it will take more than 65 years for Japan to get 60% of the population infected and complete natural immunity

That is 3000 confirmed cases. The actual infections must be much higher, maybe 10-100X.

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There is no reason to wear a mask when you are outside, unless your face is cold. Same when you are driving your car alone. If you are in a crowded place with poor ventilation for an extended period of time, then it could be a good idea.

But realistically very few people need to worry about this virus. If you are under 70 years old, your chance of getting seriously ill or dying are very very low. So I understand why young people don't take it seriously- they don't need to. If you dig into the data, there are only something like 60 or 70 people in hospital in Tokyo due to COVID. That is a ridiculously low number to cause such panic and paranoia.

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At least 15-20 young people carousing with masks off

Exactly what I said, the young dont care.

But werent we the same when we are young?

Never listen to anything...to anybody...just doing what we want as long as we have fun?

I guess most of us were like that too.

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If you dig into the data, there are only something like 60 or 70 people in hospital in Tokyo due to COVID.

Where is this data? I've never seen a breakdown of hospital patient by age in any Tokyo data. Please do share your link.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Exactly what I said, the young dont care. 

But werent we the same when we are young? 

Never listen to anything...to anybody...just doing what we want as long as we have fun?

Spot on!

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I am at an age where I am more worried to get cancer than this Virus.

While getting cancer is obviously not great, you cannot infect others with your cancer -- and indirectly cause the death of another person by your behavior.

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Zoroto- the data is from today's edition of Japan Today that talks about how many people tested positive for COVID. It said that 68 people in Tokyo are hospitalized due to severe covid symptoms.

Four thousand people a day die in Japan. Lately, about 20 covid related deaths per day. That is 0.5% of deaths, and those are mostly seniors and people who frankly don't have long to live anyway. It sounds cold and harsh, but it is reality. A disease that takes the young and healthy is much more of a worry.

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Yeah, "struggling" to use their Go To deals before the government grows a spine.

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Zoroto

Japan is No. 3 world economy and exports many industrial materials and parts. If Japan halt export, industries and economy of many other countries will be affected.

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@zoroto

I dont mean the spread, I mean the serious of the sickness.

If I get Covid, I have a 99% possibility to recover within 2 weeks.

But if I get cancer...I think I dont need to explain what that means.

Same like heart attack, stroke...all these very serious sickness are forgot because everyone is so focused on the Covid thing.

But let us go back to spread, many people die from Influenza, but even so many people go out or to work even they have the influenza. Nobody cares about spreading influenza. Even many people die.

But for Covid! Everyone is completely under panic.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

I saw so many Japanese without masks at small restaurants in and around Tokyo

Hard to eat with a mask on.

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It said that 68 people in Tokyo are hospitalized due to severe covid symptoms.

It says nothing about the breakdown of those 68 by age.

And the # of hospitalized is not 68, it's 1874 (source: https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en )

The 68 are the people who are on ventilator/ECMO machine.

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Japan is No. 3 world economy and exports many industrial materials and parts. If Japan halt export, industries and economy of many other countries will be affected.

Who is talking about halting exports? Did any of the countries that defeated the virus halted their exports? It's a rhetorical question, since the answer is very clearly "no."

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Japan has the worst COVID response in the world. Since it doesn’t test, the numbers are way higher than what’s reported.

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It’s young people who think they are invincible that are getting infected and passing it on. Maybe they should be subject to a curfew. Either way, the government’s approach has exacerbated the problem, actively encouraging the spread of the virus with the Go To Covid campaigns.

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Zoroto

I thought you agreed Japan could lock down as New Zealand did. If Japan locks down, trade will also be halted.

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I thought you agreed Japan could lock down as New Zealand did. If Japan locks down, trade will also be halted.

You seriously think New Zealand halted trade in any way or form? If yes, sorry, I have no answer for you, and not going to argue about it with you.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

precautions like washing our hands

For airborne viruses, handwashing only works if you remember to also wash the airways and lungs

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Four thousand people a day die in Japan. Lately, about 20 covid related deaths per day. That is 0.5% of deaths, and those are mostly seniors and people who frankly don't have long to live anyway. It sounds cold anid harsh, but it is reality. A disease that takes the young and healthy is much more of a worry.

That makes sense. All lives matter, and I feel like putting things into perspective.

Luckily or oddly, despite the pandemic, the total number of deaths in Japan in 2020 is expected to decrease. Most remarkably, th flu seems non-existent this season, with only 0.2% (!) of the cases in the previous season.

インフル患者、昨年比0.2% コロナと同時流行、兆候なく―「ウイルス干渉」か?

https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2020121200123&g=soc

At the same time, the number of suicides has risen to stay high for months, continually; its single monthly figure is almost equal or larger than the entire number of covid-related deaths in Japan. Suicidal tendency is observed among young and working age population. I wonder what's going on in other countries under the crisis. Is Japan's phenomenon unque or global? I don't think that the topic is irrelevant. It's a valid issue for public health.

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If 3000 infections a day, it will take more than 65 years for Japan to get 60% of the population infected and complete natural immunity

...

That is 3000 confirmed cases. The actual infections must be much higher, maybe 10-100X.

It actually 3000 DEATHS per day.

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If I get Covid, I have a 99% possibility to recover within 2 weeks.

But if I get cancer...I think I dont need to explain what that means.

The problem is again that COVID-19 is an easy to spread disease, so if lots of people get COVID then that 99% is no longer applicable, since there will be no hospitalization possible to reach it. If it gets completely out of control that would mean public health resources necessary for all other diseases are also in risk of being lost. That would mean that if you worry about getting cancer (or influenza, or an appendicitis, or a traffic accident) you should be very worried about COVID-19 getting out of control.

Influenza is still a much milder disease, that also infects a lot of people that will show no symptoms, we have the experience to know it is not realistic to expect health services to be swamped by it, specially this year where the social distancing measures have been hugely more effective for influenza than have been for COVID-19.

You think normal people are being too worried about the pandemic? Then how about the professionals, do you think they have forgotten all others diseases even when they still have to deal with them daily? it should be obvious that if they say much more should be done before things get really bad, its because they know something about it.

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Four thousand people a day die in Japan. Lately, about 20 covid related deaths per day.

Attila, that is 20 reported deaths, but Japan doesn’t test, so the true number of deaths is much higher. I wouldn’t be surprised if the true numbers were worse than the US.

At least 15-20 young people carousing with masks off

Monty, I agree, it’s becoming rare to see young people wearing masks now. I was on a packed train this morning and the only people wearing masks were one or two elderly people.

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@Virusrex

Influenza is still a much milder disease

Sorry to say that, but that is completely nonsens!

A few years ago, I had influenza C with the highest fever ever in my life. I thought I would die.

It tooks me 6 weeks to recover.

And I dont care what all your experts, specialists or data are saying, Influenze IS a horrible tough desease and sometimes deadly!

But to give you a credit point:

Since that I am taking evey year my influenca vaccine and since then I am fine.

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@Reckless

I worked out long ago that life is something to be enjoyed rather than not.

There is arguably a risk in everything we do and I don’t really view the Corona virus as much of a risk as it is made out to be.

If I were infected, then by all means,I would attempt to limit my contact with others but I do not have a fear of being infected.

I do not have much fear of death either-the journey there might be unpleasant though...

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Washing hands does almost nothing to prevent covid, it is just government propaganda to give people a false sense of security.

Government messages on covid makes it sound like it is almost impossible to spread unless you stay in close contact for at least 15 min or more without mask, so of course most Japanese are not taking much precautions.

This is what happens in a country with fanatical support for the government and 100% trust in government propaganda

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It's all a clown show. Smoke and mirrors. "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" but nothing being done about it. In fact, go travel! Go eat! It's fine. But just make sure you wear a mask and wash your hands, because a "deadly" virus is lurking about and even if it doesn't really do much harm to YOU, it may hurt grandma. You don't want to kill your grandma do you? Do you?

See how confusing that all is? With such mixed messages and inaction, it's little wonder people are just going about their lives as usual. As they should. Don't let the fear dominate your life. Take care not to catch or spread it...but hearing of all these people who are willingly holed up in their homes the whole year when it wasn't mandated makes me feel so sorry for them. They're missing out on their lives because of blind trust in government and media.

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everybody saw this coming... weather changed. It's cold. In Europe it started earlier cos weather works bit different there. We saw it's coming.

be safe everyone.

and time to stop blaming kabukicho, gaijins, people around 20's etc. Government did the "great" job by setting campaigns: go to... like it or not.

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Sorry to say that, but that is completely nonsens!

A few years ago, I had influenza C with the highest fever ever in my life. I thought I would die.

It tooks me 6 weeks to recover.

And guess what? that is still, epidemiologically speaking, a much milder disease than COVID-19.

Milder do not means innocuous, it means less dangerous. Some people get really sick with influenza, some people die because of influenza, but more people do both things with COVID-19.

Imagine that a huge lot of people around you felt like you did with influenza, enough so the hospitals are filled with them for a few weeks or even months, and that many doctors and nurses are also like that or worse.

What if you were supposed to have a dose of chemo for a cancer with a good chance to be cured? you would have to choose to wait until things are again normal (with every day lowering those good chances) or risk going to the hospital and getting infected as so many other people do (its not just a coincidence that hospitals are frequent places for clusters) with your immune system knocked down your chances of recovery are no longer 99%.

That weird chest pain, those extra times that you have to pee, that mole that seems bigger than last month, right now they are just a visit to the doctor away from being treated or even discarded as not important, but with an uncontrolled pandemic all around you they become much more serious problems, that is why people worry so much about the pandemic.

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Im curious to know the deaths also, the daily case numbers have been growing every day but i have not seen a report for deaths since the current ‘wave’ has began.

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I can’t really believe anything China says but... I have to believe they have gotten the virus under control. Most Asian/ southeast Asian countries are authoritarian at best. So countries like China, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, etc enforced military style lockdowns. Fudge, in the Philippines and Indonesia you need a government permit to even go shopping and they have military checkpoints and roadblocks. Japan and the US can’t legally do that.

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So countries like China, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, etc enforced military style lockdowns.

Are Australia and New Zealand, which have defeated the virus, "authoritarian at best"? If not, I don't see the point you are trying to make.

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blahblah222Today  12:06 pm JST

Washing hands does almost nothing to prevent covid, it is just government propaganda to give people a false sense of security.

Um, well it does kill the virus on your hands, so you know, it's hardly 'does nothing'.

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“Um, well it does kill the virus on your hands, so you know, it's hardly 'does nothing'.”

Besides the fact that covid is rarely spread by touch or surfaces, but air and aerosols. So yeah, killing it on your hand pretty much does nothing for the prevention of covid, it is just so the government and provide a false sense of security for mass indoor gatherings which the government continue to promote in restaurants with no social distancing or masks

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

 'does nothing'.

Way to quote him, leaving out a very important word "almost"....

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

A few years ago, I had influenza C with the highest fever ever in my life.

...

Since that I am taking every year my influenza vaccine and since then I am fine.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/viruses/types.htm

One influenza A(H1N1), one influenza A(H3N2), and one or two influenza B viruses (depending on the vaccine) are included in each season’s influenza vaccines.

Seasonal flu vaccines do not protect against influenza C or D viruses.

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@human among robots Today 12:17 pm JST

I have not seen a report for deaths since the current ‘wave’ began

Here's one "official" source, though it's always several days behind the current date:

https://www.fukushihoken.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/iryo/kansen/shibou.html

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Seasonal flu vaccines do not protect against influenza C or D viruses.

I dont know details about that, but what I know is that since I am taking this vaccine, I didnt have it again.

*And that is what counts for me.
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Eating yakiniku yesterday, there wasn’t a single table in the restaurant empty

Yes, blame everybody else for the traffic jam.

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@human among robots Today 12:17 pm JST

I have not seen a report for deaths since the current ‘wave’ began

The link I gave you a few minutes ago was just for Tokyo. Here's one for the whole of Japan (it's the second graph down):

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/special/coronavirus/data-all/

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Just cut off Go To for the winter....is that so hard to do?

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

This mistake could easily be the end of Suga

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The scapegoating of young people is unbelievable. The older generation would do well to remember a few things:

jobs that cannot easily be done remotely, and which require a lot of human contact (think restaurant staff, convenience store staff, delivery workers, receptionists etc etc) are disproportionately done by the young. Some of these are also the jobs that allow the rest of us to stay at home. Of course they're getting infected at a higher rate.

decision-making in Japan on almost everything is done by the older generation. The older generation have: failed to put systems in place to allow more people to work at home; encouraged eating out through the GotoEat campaign; botched the cruise ship situation way back in spring; incentivized the populace to travel all over the country; moved so slowly that the earliest we're going to start vaccinating here is March, when the rest of the developed world is starting now; is making plans to track foreign visitors during the olympics when it is plain to see that Japan is riddled with the virus already.

I'm willing to bet that every single person posting here knows someone who is being prevented from working at home through the decision of some old fart who doesn't know any better. So, get on the train, sit in a busy office, catch the virus, then get blamed for it because you're young.

And for what it's worth, in my neighbourhood the age profile of drinkers looks to me to be largely unchanged - 50-year olds in suits galore.

Oh, and I'm fascinated by the stories of people not wearing masks on the train. I haven't seen a single person without a mask on a train in months. I'm not taking many (3-4 a week, in Tokyo) but is this really a thing?

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there is no three ways about handling the pandemic, only two ways, do it like USA and Brazil and kill many to save some money while in the long run it will cost even more than if done the Chinese way, lock down hundred percent for the short time, lose whatever has to be lost, kill the virus instead of people and start rebuilding the damages. Canada, Japan, Russia and most other capitalist, bank and industry controlled countries are trying to invent a middle way and by doing so destroying both the people and the economy. We all know the story about trying to sit on the two chairs.

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@Elrata I don’t agree with you. ‘Common sense is lost by most people from the west.’

I’d say ‘ a duty of care is ignored by most lawmakers from Japan’

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This is not a shock, really. Back in February I knew this was going to be serious and started prepping by ordering the best masks and filters for my son and myself. Why? When Taiwan warned the rest of the world and when they almost completely shut their doors to the outside world I took heed. You can blame China for not putting out the warning, however, if Taiwan knew and warned the rest of the world leaders to take care and they chose to ignore the warnings who do we have to blame our own leaders and or the leaders who head up the countries we live in.

Trump and so many other leaders including Abe we have to assume were only thinking about the financial line and not the line of the people who pay their salaries which is a shame. This pandemic could have been avoided had every single country closed their boarders, had people remain home and tested all those who had traveled abroad and those who they came in contact with and isolated the cases. Yes, in the short term it would have been costly, however, in the long term it would have saved many lives and more importantly the economy that so many depend on.

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NZ population is 5 million while Japanese 126 million. You cannot compare the two countries.

Agree NZ has 30 times less resources and a F you attitude to government. Would have been easy for Japan back when the cruise ship was the only place COVID appeared to be. Abe wanted an Olympics so did nothing of substance. Hopeless management.

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Nobody except of some hospital staff struggles. I had some business to do in the city today and what I’ve seen was nothing else than an invitation for even more viruses, waves, victims and so on. No social distancing at all, extremely crowded trains, shops, elevators, pathways...unbelievable and shocking. Nobody really cares. So I rushed in , waited at a less frequented place, did my meeting and ran out. The only positive point was , that most people had their masks on, but as those cheap masks only reduce to 45% , there is no effect in all those crowded areas.

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People criticizing the government forget that Japan was one of the first countries to shut down schools, and in doing so sent a strong message to the public that this thing is for real. Because of this and their endless tracking of clusters and contacts, Japan has for the most part weathered the storm. If this thing was out of control, you would see numbers increasing exponentially, not trickling up a few or back down a few every day.

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Monty

In the beginning of the pandemic the WHO and the media published, that young people are not getting seriously sick from the virus.

...and has that changed? When? All the data I see show that young people indeed are not getting sick from this. So why are they being punished?

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Ashley Shiba

rump and so many other leaders including Abe we have to assume were only thinking about the financial line and not the line of the people who pay their salaries which is a shame. This pandemic could have been avoided had every single country closed their boarders, had people remain home

....and how long can you stay at home before running out of food, other supplies, and money? And how is the country supposed to exist without an economy? Are we all supposed to live like hunter-gatherers? Oops, they don=t stay at home either.

This often heard idea that "the financial line" and "the line of the people" are two unrelated things is very strange.

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Correction: I meant 3000 deaths per day in America.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Total shut down please.

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