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Negotiations?

Negotiations about what? Get them on the plane, fly out. What's there to negotiate?

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oldman_13Today  10:25 am JST

Negotiations?

Negotiations about what? Get them on the plane, fly out. What's there to negotiate?

It's not as easy as it sounds. You'd need to:

1) Identify those individuals eligible to be repatriated and their contact information,

2) Contact them and find out of they do actually wish to be repatriated (eg family commitments etc)

3) Arrange for them to be at a given place at a given time.

4) Arrange for special transport (exempt from travel restrictions, because remember the city is in complete lock down. No cars, buses, trains, subway etc) to collect collect them at the given place time.

5) Arrange transport to the nearest airport.

6) Medically screen them.

7) Exempt an aircraft from flight restrictions etc

8) Deal with the usual issues of immigration, visas etc etc etc because you are not going through the normal channels.

All while a number of other countries are trying to do the same thing.

35 ( +35 / -0 )

Evacuees will talk freely when they arrive in Japan what’s happening in Wuhan. CCP doesn’t like it.

7 ( +14 / -7 )

@oldman_13

Negotiations about what? 

China is not letting non-Japanese family members of Japanese citizens or dual citizens from leaving China.

Only Japanese citizens may leave. Anyone holding Chinese citizenship(including dual citizenship) must stay.

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Would like to see if other nations' evac plans like the U.S. amd U.K. are progressing or running into same delays as well.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

They should stay in China if they are infected

7 ( +14 / -7 )

I hope they quarantine and monitor everyone on these flights (for a few days) when they return to Japan.

15 ( +15 / -0 )

Extremely regrettable that the Tuesday flights have been delayed by PRC. It would not shock me if these "negotiations" involved PRC demanding big cash payments ($ Millions) to allow the evacuation.

Let these Japanese people escape to safety, as well as in some cases their Chinese spouses and dual national kids. Less mouths to feed in the coming weeks/months, so PRC should be happy.

-2 ( +8 / -10 )

I hope they quarantine and monitor everyone on these flights (for a few days) 

It wont be a few days - it will be a 2 week quarantine.

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Extremely regrettable that the Tuesday flights have been delayed by PRC. It would not shock me if these "negotiations" involved PRC demanding big cash payments ($ Millions) to allow the evacuation.

Demanding millions $ in cash payments?....any factual basis for this assumption?

Negotiations about what? Get them on the plane, fly out. What's there to negotiate

InspectorGadget post above sums it up pretty well.

9 ( +13 / -4 )

OSSANAMERICA - apparently all countries have the same problem. With everything on lockdown the first problem is getting landing permission ( or actually takeoff permission ) for any flight....

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Like I asked yesterday, did Abe clear this with China before making his announcement? Obviously he hadn't.

0 ( +5 / -5 )

After arrival into Japan will they be quarantined here or let go freely? The virus might be inside a person without any symptoms for up to 2 weeks and can transmit from one person to another during this time. So are there appropriate measures by the Japanese Government to protect the general public from this outbreak? A lot of unanswered questions as the article doesn’t mention anything in this regards.

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oldman_13: "Get them home now!"

Thank the gods China is not in a rush to send potentially virus-plagued people back here, surprisingly enough. It seems like they are taking the proper steps and precautions. I don't want them to spend any more time there than necessary either, but I also don't want to transport a bunch of potentially infected people to my doorstep without thoroughly clearing them first, either.

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What smith said!

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

1 doctor to check 650 people , even if he spent 1 minute checking each person it would still take him 11 hours

This is not good

Passengers will be asked to monitor their health condition for two weeks after their return to Japan and report to the nearest public health center if they develop symptoms of the new coronavirus.

Self monitor and back in the general population, wandering around spreading it if they have it.

They should be going straight into isolation for incubation period not be left to roam freely.

12 ( +12 / -0 )

Self monitor and report if they have symptoms is not good.

apparently with this virus people can be infectious before symptoms become apparent.

Quarantine them makes more sense. Better safe than sorry.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

Have a Japanese friend there now. He's worried because his prescription meds will run out in 2 weeks. Not to mention he has about that much food as well. He hoping to be able to get on one the flights out. By the way, supposedly the U.S. citizens wanting to hop a flight out have to pay their way(not a discount ticket). How about the Japanese citizens? Will they have to pay? Just curious..

7 ( +7 / -0 )

perhaps they should be quaranteened and tested first?

0 ( +4 / -4 )

There will be 0 isolation of patients. Japan government still reading and quoting WHO stuff from December their risk accessments. There will be no quarantines even after the law go into effect on Feb 7th.

see last page:

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/10906000/000589476.pdf

currently, doctors dont even need to test or report cases, which probably explain why the official case count is so low compared to other countries with less Chinese travelers.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Self monitor and report if they have symptoms is not good.

apparently with this virus people can be infectious before symptoms become apparent.

Quarantine them makes more sense. Better safe than sorry.

Unfortunately, I highly doubt the Japanese government would quarantine the repatriated Japanese citizens once they arrive home like they do foreigners. Japanese bodies are unique (sarcasm)!

If one of those people are infected and don't get a follow up then Japan will be in serious trouble.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

According to the last part, they will be asked to self-monitor and report to a hospital if they develop symptoms. Ridiculous. They should be kept in quarantine for two weeks. Apparently the US government is bringing back citizens who will then be kept at a military base in quarantine. They should be doing something similar in Japan

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Extremely regrettable that the Tuesday flights have been delayed by PRC. It would not shock me if these "negotiations" involved PRC demanding big cash payments ($ Millions) to allow the evacuation.

Let these Japanese people escape to safety, as well as in some cases their Chinese spouses and dual national kids. Less mouths to feed in the coming weeks/months, so PRC should be happy.

I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't a hostage negotiation. Japan looks bad if they don't evacuate their people in the public eye. China knows this all too well. China might want something in return like money to let them leave. Or, a promise that the company will continue to do business some time in the future.

Not only are tourist destinations loosing business because of the ban on Chinese tourists, but China is losing money with tourism, foreign business operations, and exports in the country; they don't want foreign companies closing up shop for good. The Chinese people will blame the government.

Also, China doesn't want people talking about what is really going on the World stage. They have a fragile ego.

Or, it could be that the situation is really bad, and they just want to make sure that none of the Japanese citizens are infected.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

what kind of madness is that :

Once they board the charter plane, a doctor, two nurses and a quarantine officer plan to conduct an in-flight check for symptoms such as fever and cough, according to the Japanese health ministry.

China has multiple times communicated that its asymptomatic .. infected person might not have any signs..so its just pointless.

The passengers will be asked to monitor their health condition for two weeks after their return to Japan and report to the nearest public health center if they develop symptoms of the new coronavirus.

Why are they not kept in quarantine camp for two weeks to see if they develop symptoms before releasing them in general population.....

and why my money is used for this?

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Should leave them there.Bringing them back with the potential of someone having it and passing it on is not cool.Just now's news has a bus driver in Nara getting the virus.He had transported two groups from Wuhan by bus.Asking for trouble bringing them back.

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"The passengers will be asked to monitor their health condition for two weeks after their return to Japan and report to the nearest public health center if they develop symptoms of the new coronavirus."

So there you go as predicted, bring them back and NO two week quarantine. Release them into the mainstream and let them monitor themselves.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

nothing difficult, pay for your own flight and 2-3 weeks quarantine at your cost if you do

1 ( +1 / -0 )

There are a limited number of quarantine hospitals but probably not enough beds for all the arrivals.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

My conference in Seoul got cancelled because the government there raised the threat level from yellow to orange and Chinese and American institutions told their staff not to go apparently. This is turning into a right mess, I hope the J government is prepared

2 ( +2 / -0 )

What comes next is the Chinese public will start turning on those from Wuhan. Whether they be local or foreign doesn't matter. They will be discriminated against. I read that Mongolia has already closed their borders.

At least some foreigners might have a chance to leave, but I feel for immigrants from less developed countries. They will be stuck in a really bad situation. Not able to leave and shunned by people who they don't have much of connection with let alone empathy for them.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

@smithinjapan yeah, well put Smith. Indeed, get them out of there, but quarantine them for least a few days if not a couple weeks, just to make sure they don’t spread the virus. Sounds like a fair deal if you ask me.

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